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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 6:34 PM ET
If Hart is available it’s open season on everyone imo.
- hereticpride



It has to be.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 13 @ 6:56 PM ET
Agreed. You would need a 1st, another pick and even maybe a prospect to even come to the table. For all three. At least 3 assets for sure with a 1st round pick being the non negotiable starting point.
- MBFlyerfan


Goalies don't usually get 3 pieces alone. More would be included but I do agree its a first round pick for Hart + prospect if it's a team with a late first. If it's something like the Schneider deal, a top 10 pick, for a goalie then I can see it being a straight up trade. Maybe Montreal if they don't want to tank next year. I'd say chicago too but I think they don't mind being bad again next year.

Penguins are my random pick to make the trade for Hart in the off season.
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Mar 13 @ 7:04 PM ET
What exactly does hard to play against mean? Everything is easy when you are winning.

So, IMO the Flyers are always easy to play against because they don't win.

- MBFlyerfan

There is not one team in the league that gets up to play the Flyers. Elite teams feel it’s a gimmie. Enough with the tough to play against bullpoop
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Mar 13 @ 7:14 PM ET
Hart is an RFA after next season. Really need to pay a goalie over 5 million if not a serious Cup contender. I do think Hart will be gone by the next trade deadline.
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Mar 13 @ 7:18 PM ET
So what is the definition of marquee franchise? You can't ask people for it then poop on their definition without offering up your own.
- Aaron_85


that's his MO
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Mar 13 @ 7:19 PM ET
Hart is an RFA after next season. Really need to pay a goalie over 5 million if not a serious Cup contender. I do think Hart will be gone by the next trade deadline.
- Trox88

Hart deserves to be traded to get him out of this purgatory. Guys paid his dues.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Mar 13 @ 7:25 PM ET
That's pretty cool. The 4th sim I did, the Flyers got the #1 pick.
- MJL


I got to two and the flyers got first.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 13 @ 7:28 PM ET
Goalies don't usually get 3 pieces alone. More would be included but I do agree its a first round pick for Hart + prospect if it's a team with a late first. If it's something like the Schneider deal, a top 10 pick, for a goalie then I can see it being a straight up trade. Maybe Montreal if they don't want to tank next year. I'd say chicago too but I think they don't mind being bad again next year.

Penguins are my random pick to make the trade for Hart in the off season.

- Aaron_85


I know Hart's still young and has a decent rep around the league, and he's probably the Flyers' MVP this season, but let's not get carried away with his trade value.

He's a lot closer to Steve Mason than Marty Brodeur.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 13 @ 7:37 PM ET
I know Hart's still young and has a decent rep around the league, and he's probably the Flyers' MVP this season, but let's not get carried away with his trade value.

He's a lot closer to Steve Mason than Marty Brodeur.

- Tomahawk


That and goalies just don't seem to hold the same value in trades.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 13 @ 7:39 PM ET
Goalies don't usually get 3 pieces alone. More would be included but I do agree its a first round pick for Hart + prospect if it's a team with a late first. If it's something like the Schneider deal, a top 10 pick, for a goalie then I can see it being a straight up trade. Maybe Montreal if they don't want to tank next year. I'd say chicago too but I think they don't mind being bad again next year.

Penguins are my random pick to make the trade for Hart in the off season.

- Aaron_85
I can't see the Flyers EVER trading Hart to the Penwhines. You can't imagine the crap that the organization would take if he stoned the Flyers in every game that they played them in. They would have to pay a king's ransom to make that one happen.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 13 @ 7:40 PM ET
I know Hart's still young and has a decent rep around the league, and he's probably the Flyers' MVP this season, but let's not get carried away with his trade value.

He's a lot closer to Steve Mason than Marty Brodeur.

- Tomahawk
He has a very good rep around the league for the most part...especially north of the border for some reason. Perhaps cause he won them WJ gold and has been compared to Carey Price.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 13 @ 8:12 PM ET
He has a very good rep around the league for the most part...especially north of the border for some reason. Perhaps cause he won them WJ gold and has been compared to Carey Price.
- Phillywhiteout

I feel like it’s a forgone conclusion that Edmonton or Toronto goes after him if he’s available.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Season Ticket Holder
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Mar 13 @ 8:13 PM ET
After watching the presser you shouldn't judge the book by the cover. But Briere looked very boyish, cordial and soft-spoken. Let's hope he can wrist some arms in the cynical brutal corporate side of the NHL.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 13 @ 8:20 PM ET
I feel like it’s a forgone conclusion that Edmonton or Toronto goes after him if he’s available.
- hereticpride


Toronto would kick tires but it would super depend on how they see Samsonov. If they think Samsonov is as good and would cost the same on a longer term deal then I think they say pass.

If that were the trade though for funsies, it would be Murray, Boston first round pick and maybe some B or C level prospect.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 13 @ 8:21 PM ET
I can't see the Flyers EVER trading Hart to the Penwhines. You can't imagine the crap that the organization would take if he stoned the Flyers in every game that they played them in. They would have to pay a king's ransom to make that one happen.
- Phillywhiteout


I see your point. However its still my random guess. You heard it here first! "A3".
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 13 @ 8:43 PM ET
After watching the presser you shouldn't judge the book by the cover. But Briere looked very boyish, cordial and soft-spoken. Let's hope he can wrist some arms in the cynical brutal corporate side of the NHL.
- THE EVIL WITHIN


Anyone who remembers Danny as a player knows that, on the ice, he was a playoff assassin and made up for his lack of size through smarts, skill and a pretty considerable mean streak (he was very loose with his stick and had several suspensions for slashing, high-sticking, etc.)

Off the ice, yes, one of the nicest human beings you will ever meet. But anyone who underestimates his competitiveness because of he looks or how he is away from the game doesn't make that mistake twice.

I don't know how he will do as a GM. But he's no one's pushover.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 13 @ 9:06 PM ET
Anyone who remembers Danny as a player knows that, on the ice, he was a playoff assassin and made up for his lack of size through smarts, skill and a pretty considerable mean streak (he was very loose with his stick and had several suspensions for slashing, high-sticking, etc.)

Off the ice, yes, one of the nicest human beings you will ever meet. But anyone who underestimates his competitiveness because of he looks or how he is away from the game doesn't make that mistake twice.

I don't know how he will do as a GM. But he's no one's pushover.

- bmeltzer

The hat trick and fight against Turris verse Ottawa comes to mind when I think of Danny
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Mar 13 @ 9:19 PM ET
Assuming Bedard, Fantilli, and Carlsson are off the board, is there a strong argument for not drafting Michkov? I can't think of one, considering the rebuild has been outlined. I feel the gap between other prospects and Michkov at that point of the draft is too large to ignore.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 13 @ 9:23 PM ET
I see your point. However its still my random guess. You heard it here first! "A3".

- Aaron_85

Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 13 @ 9:26 PM ET
Anyone who remembers Danny as a player knows that, on the ice, he was a playoff assassin and made up for his lack of size through smarts, skill and a pretty considerable mean streak (he was very loose with his stick and had several suspensions for slashing, high-sticking, etc.)

Off the ice, yes, one of the nicest human beings you will ever meet. But anyone who underestimates his competitiveness because of he looks or how he is away from the game doesn't make that mistake twice.

I don't know how he will do as a GM. But he's no one's pushover.

- bmeltzer
You beat me to it. Who knows what he will be like as a GM cause no one knows, but despite looking rather boyish on the ice at times his general demeanor was anything but. He raised his game to another level come playoff time and shied away from no one. Of course, who knows how it translates. Hextall was a player that lived on the edge during his playing career and yet, he seems rather timid and guarded as a GM.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 13 @ 9:29 PM ET
Assuming Bedard, Fantilli, and Carlsson are off the board, is there a strong argument for not drafting Michkov? I can't think of one, considering the rebuild has been outlined. I feel the gap between other prospects and Michkov at that point of the draft is too large to ignore.
- Trox88
Not sure I'd be drafting Russians with the current goings on around the world. And if I'm not mistaken he couldn't come over until at least 2026. The Flyers already lost that promising goalie prospect that was supposed to come over this year.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 9:31 PM ET
Assuming Bedard, Fantilli, and Carlsson are off the board, is there a strong argument for not drafting Michkov? I can't think of one, considering the rebuild has been outlined. I feel the gap between other prospects and Michkov at that point of the draft is too large to ignore.
- Trox88


The argument is that he might never actually play for you.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Mar 13 @ 10:00 PM ET
The argument is that he might never actually play for you.
- MJL

Sounds like a chuck feltcher move...one that blows up in his face again
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Mar 13 @ 10:02 PM ET
Not sure I'd be drafting Russians with the current goings on around the world. And if I'm not mistaken he couldn't come over until at least 2026. The Flyers already lost that promising goalie prospect that was supposed to come over this year.
- Phillywhiteout


Welp, don't want to get into the politics ring, but if WWIII breaks out, not sure the NHL will be playing. I'm hoping the war ends sooner then later, there are no winners. As far as Michkov, I have not read any statement from him suggesting NHL is not a possibility.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Mar 13 @ 10:05 PM ET
Svechnikov is concern that he tore his ACL. Not good at all.
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