lets see what briere does for the team in the next few months

Is this team in a position to take a chance on someone with little to no experience?
- MJL

Well, Keith Allen was 40 something year old coach when they handed him the GM job in 1969 and that worked out pretty well. But yeah, I get your point and don’t disagree. If Briere is going to be the GM then hiring a smart, hands on team President is a must.

I will root against Chuck Fletcher in anything he does from now until eternity.

Well, Keith Allen was 40 something year old coach when they handed him the GM job in 1969 and that worked out pretty well. But yeah, I get your point and don’t disagree. If Briere is going to be the GM then hiring a smart, hands on team President is a must.
- BiggE

That is absolutely a must. I was glad to hear they are decoupling the two positions.

That is absolutely a must. I was glad to hear they are decoupling the two positions.
- Sublime55

Giving Fletcher both the President of hockey and GM titles was just ridiculous from jump street. They got what they wanted.

We don't know if a team would grant anyone under contract permission to apply for a GM spot on another team but there are numerous highly regarded assistant GM's and personnel guys on very successful teams that have been suggested.
- MJL

The team should be open to interviewing everyone available who meets the requirements, definitely. They can’t afford to mess this up.

https://theathletic.com/4...n-culture-fletcher/?amp=1

I will root against Chuck Fletcher in anything he does from now until eternity.
- Shrike

I knew Fletcher was a mistake anywhere from the moment he sighed Tomas Vanek to that ridiculous contract and instead of living with it, he bought Vanek out with a ridiculous amount of years still left. I was actually concerned he might do the same with Hayes. Chuck Fletcher put his classic stamp on this team the second he walked through the door.

Yeah, diamonds in a pile of turds. I do agree with your sentiment too. Time to see the young guys. Hell, give Hayes and JVR fake injuries for all I care. The two young forwards that they just brought up seem to have acquitted themselves well. Let's see what a couple of these young defenders have to offer as well.
- Phillywhiteout

I know I am leight to this convo but I don't want to call the kids up. I want to see LHV make the playoffs and I think that the experience of them playing in the playoff will be beneficial for their development. Not that playing in the NHL isn't valuable but I just hope that LHV can keep pushing and get in.
Give the kids a cup of tea so that they can see first hand how different the NHL pace but send them back down for the playoff push. That's just my opinion.
If LHV males the playoffs it will be good for the entire team down there to have that experience and they can learn what it feels like to actually win games, unlike the flyers

I know I am leight to this convo but I don't want to call the kids up. I want to see LHV make the playoffs and I think that the experience of them playing in the playoff will be beneficial for their development. Not that playing in the NHL isn't valuable but I just hope that LHV can keep pushing and get in.
Give the kids a cup of tea so that they can see first hand how different the NHL pace but send them back down for the playoff push. That's just my opinion.
If LHV males the playoffs it will be good for the entire team down there to have that experience and they can learn what it feels like to actually win games, unlike the flyers
- Bob Habib

I agree with you.

https://theathletic.com/4...n-culture-fletcher/?amp=1
- Sublime55

Fantastic article and hits the nail on the head. It continued with the hiring of the coach. Time to move into modern day hockey and for that to happen. Everybody needs to go and everything needs to be changed. All of what I've been saying as well as some others is coming to light as reality.

6 pts from 4th- rivalry win no thanks. Regulation losses need to continue. Western Conf. bottom dwellers still play each other. Flyers with a real chance to drop as long as they do not steal wins.

I will root against Chuck Fletcher in anything he does from now until eternity.
- Shrike

You don't have to worry about that. His career as a hockey executive is over.

Just saw a picture from today's "protest." Looks a lot like the Flyers for the past decade... half-assed, and a complete dud.

https://www.outkick.com/f...-he-was-traded-from-team/

Some comedy relief for us Flyers fans.

I don't deny that Hextall didn't like Hartnell but that's got nothing to do with the cap comparison. The move was made for the future cap gains and not for the immediate future. We knew the day the deal was made who was the better player. It wasn't a hockey trade. It was a cap trade.
- MJL

Not what Hexy told Jay in the Flyers at 50 sessions. He said he had another option available that was better cap wise but felt (mistakenly, he admitted) that Umberger still had a bit more left than he did.

Not what Hexy told Jay in the Flyers at 50 sessions. He said he had another option available that was better cap wise but felt (mistakenly, he admitted) that Umberger still had a bit more left than he did.
- bmeltzer

So you think that Hextall thought that Umberger was a better player than Hartnell? I don't buy that. Regardless, it was a move that helped a good deal with the cap. If they had held on to Hartnell, he would've become untradeable and a worse buyout than Umberger.

So you think that Hextall thought that Umberger was a better player than Hartnell? I don't buy that. Regardless, it was a move that helped a good deal with the cap. If they had held on to Hartnell, he would've become untradeable and a worse buyout than Umberger.
- MJL

Hexy had an option available that would have save about 0.5 million cap wise (he didn't say the player or team) but felt Umberger would be more serviceable for the remainder of his deal as opposed to the other guy. But, above all else, he wanted Hartnell gone.

Hexy had an option available that would have save about 0.5 million cap wise (he didn't say the player or team) but felt Umberger would be more serviceable for the remainder of his deal as opposed to the other guy. But, above all else, he wanted Hartnell gone.
- bmeltzer

Regardless of motivation, it turned out to be a good trade for the Flyers as a cap move.

Poll:

would it have mattered if the flyers hired a better replacement for Hextall or would any hire struggle with how the flyers have been managed?

In other words, could another successor have done significantly better than Fletcher or was the way this team was managed from the top down doomed to fail regardless?

Hexy did an OK -- far from great -- job at cap management.

Umberger had less term left than Hartnell but they made about the same cap hit; Hartnell had two 20-goal seasons left in him. RJ was oft-injured by that point and in severe decline. The move was spun as cap management but was actually done because Hexy thought Hartnell was a bad influence on the team (didn't like his work ethic, his conditioning, his push-back to coaches). It was a bad trade.

The Voracek contract extension was understandable in context: entering his prime, coming off a season where he contended for the Art Ross Trophy. I never had a problem with it. But there was still quite a bit of term left by the time of the trade to Columbus.

Giroux contract aged fine, IMO.

Weise at four years w/ $2.3M AAV was a bad deal.

Considering his injury issues, extending Michal Neuvirth for two years at $2.5M was a terrible contract.

Hexy was the GM when JVR was signed. He legitimately believed the team was ready to take the next step after the 98-point season in 2017-18. And maybe they would have been with the right moves. But they had two injured goalies in Elliott and Neuvirth, ended up with the disastrous Cal Pickard waiver pickup and the goalie carousel was underway that year.
- bmeltzer

Wasn't Hextall's undoing based in his reluctance to bring Carter Hart up to the NHL?

Regardless of motivation, it turned out to be a good trade for the Flyers as a cap move.
- MJL

Did it? What did we do with that cap space? Sign JVR?

Regardless of motivation, it turned out to be a good trade for the Flyers as a cap move.
- MJL

Do you think Hextall, if given another year or two, would have been able to take the team to the next level? I’m not sure if he would have been able to or not, but he set the team up much better for the next GM than Fletcher has done for Briere or whoever gets the position permanently. I go back and forth if Hextall was the guy to finish the plan if he had been given a blank check on time. I guess we will never know.

Did it? What did we do with that cap space? Sign JVR?
- ClaudeFather

To be fair JVR was playing pretty well for Toronto at the time. I wouldn’t have gone that route though. That felt to me like a pressure move to bring in a “name”. Could have just been a bad signing by Hextall though.

https://www.outkick.com/flyers-scott-laughton-falls-for-prank-that-he-was-traded-from-team/

Some comedy relief for us Flyers fans.
- mikeyo27

I haven’t checked the link yet but how disappointed was he to find out it was a prank on a scale of 1-10?