With his play this year, I would expect that there would be some interest around the league in Hayes as a player, but gotta think that most GMs are still wary of 3 more years at $7.1M. Sure the Flyers could retain some salary to make it happen, or get a slightly better return. But Chuck will have to decide at what cost point does carrying dead salary for 3 years just become not worth it?
And did I see on here yesterday that Hayes now has a 12 team NTC? That could further complicate things. I would have to wonder if he would be okay with going to Columbus, another rebuilding team. Ultimately, I think Hayes gets moved but it seems it will be tricky. And unless the Flyers decide to retain a significant chunk of salary, I think the return would be underwhelming at best.
- Big_E_88

I couldn't begin to explain why Columbus would want Hayes.

This franchise suffered and had to overpay both in terms of trading and signing defenseman for a long time. Hextall was able to get a first round pick and Radko Gudas who was a solid player for the Flyers for an aging Brayden Coburn. After a black hole of drafted defenseman, Hextall drafted Sanheim and Provorov. He brought in vet players cheaply to give the team minutes such as Schultz and Del Zotto. Apparently Hextall ignored the defense.
- MJL

Defend to the end cliff. Saint Ronnnie.

Have you not said yourself on numerous occasion recently that poor Ivan was thrust into the top spot at 18 when he shouldn't have? Didn't you also say his development was hurt by that? So who is to blame as chuck wasn't here t that time.

He bought in vet bottom pair/7 guys. What a visionary. Never addressed the real issue did he cliff?

This season, yes. York should've been with the Flyers the entire season. Last season they preordained that York wasn't going to get a legit shot in camp by signing Yandle who was not at the time an NHL worthy player.
- MJL

so seeler was blocking him, understood.

https://www.dispatch.com/...jack-roslovic/6954109002/


- Tomahawk

Roslovic forced to play center out of team need. Hello Noah.

Curious if anyone heard the guerin interview on 32 thoughts podcast? It was interesting to hear him talking about the buyouts of top 2. He went on to say it was just as important to rid of like 5 other older stale players on team.

Are we not in this position? Forget about getting some magical great return for players like provy tk etc. yes obviously try to maximize the return but if this new gm (assuming azz(frank) is fired) doesn’t move out most if not all this middle age and older pack of spoiled meat I think I’m finally actually done with this team. Never ever thought I’d even consider that. Sad.

I think I’m gonna give it to draft. If massive turnover not made (frank) it I’m out. Hockey will officially be like nba. Tune in at playoff time. Maybe even finals only. Even the great players and all in league philly has managed to ruin the sport for me. And this is from guy who watches and attend jr hockey too. It’s just tainted now.

Anyone else feel this way or is it just me?

I couldn't begin to explain why Columbus would want Hayes.
- MJL

It's just the JG/Hayes BC connection.

Otherwise it doesn't really make much sense for a hundred different reasons. Especially if all these man games lost result in them getting Fantilli, Carlsson or Bedard.

And with a 12-team NTC you can bet beautiful, exciting Columbus OH is off the table as far as Hayes is concerned.

It's just the JG/Hayes BC connection.

Otherwise it doesn't really make much sense for a hundred different reasons. Especially if all these man games lost result in them getting Fantilli, Carlsson or Bedard.
- Tomahawk

What are the Flyers willing to do or what do they want for Hayes? Are they willing to retain salary and give him away. Or do they want a quality asset in return for retaining salary. Are they willing to take a contract back? I just don't see a quality team willing to make a good offer for Hayes. We'll have to see what happens. One of the biggest issues with Fletcher is that he puts himself constantly in a position of weakness. They make it known they want to trade a player or trade for a player and they get raked over the coals.

What are the Flyers willing to do or what do they want for Hayes? Are they willing to retain salary and give him away. Or do they want a quality asset in return for retaining salary. Are they willing to take a contract back? I just don't see a quality team willing to make a good offer for Hayes. We'll have to see what happens. One of the biggest issues with Fletcher is that he puts himself constantly in a position of weakness. They make it known they want to trade a player or trade for a player and they get raked over the coals.
- MJL

I think he ultimately gets bought out.

I think he ultimately gets bought out.
- Tomahawk

That would be an utter disaster. Better off just letting him play it out.

I think he ultimately gets bought out.
- Tomahawk

Maybe if we don't trade him he'll just retire to escape Torts.

That would be an utter disaster. Better off just letting him play it out.
- MJL

I don't think Torts will allow that.

I don't think Torts will allow that.
- Tomahawk

Perfect. The Flyers are one of those situations where it's going to get worse before it gets better. They haven't hit rock bottom yet.

Perfect. The Flyers are one of those situations where it's going to get worse before it gets better. They haven't hit rock bottom yet.
- MJL

We're gonna get a team "rebuilt" to suit Torts.

Not a rebuild that finally ushers the Flyers into the 21st century.

So yeah... they're gonna keep digging deeper.

We're gonna get a team "rebuilt" to suit Torts.

Not a rebuild that finally ushers in the Flyers into the 21st century.

So yeah... they're gonna keep digging deeper.
- Tomahawk

More 200 ft, bang bodies, block shots bring your lunch pail to work kind of guys.

4 years later immediately after being appointed lifetime GM, Fletcher's first press conference 'We need more high-end talent.' After signing Nic Deslauriers to an 8-year extension and signing Justin Braun to his 5th consecutive 1-year deal 'We need to get younger.'

false and not true in any way.
- hello it's me 2050

More 200 ft, bang bodies, block shots bring your lunch pail to work kind of guys.

4 years later immediately after being appointed lifetime GM, Fletcher's first press conference 'We need more high-end talent.' After signing Nic Deslauriers to an 8-year extension and signing Justin Braun to his 5th consecutive 1-year deal 'We need to get younger.'
- TobyFlenderson

I don't think Torts will allow that.
- Tomahawk

that is a problem if that happens. No way should they buy him out. Maybe the fraud coach can you know make it work instead of taking the easy way don't want to be bothered approach.

your smart figure it out. He is ok with Seeler in the top 6 lineup now, but not before? what changed?
- hello it's me 2050

How do you figure? Again one thing has nothing to do with the other.

How do you figure? Again one thing has nothing to do with the other.
- MBFlyerfan

Sure it does.

Will Seeler be potentially blocking Attard Zamula or Ginning next season?

Comcast eats corn the long way

I couldn't begin to explain why Columbus would want Hayes.
- MJL

Because Johnny g is his buddy

The Bolts are gonna be pissed...look out!! I guess Torts isn't the only coach to use the 3rd period benching strategy to wake up his top players? Or is Cooper just another archaic coach?

What would happen if the flyers had players dad night at the games? They wouldn’t be able to ice a team because Torts would bench all the sons with dad’s in the stands.

Sure it does.

Will Seeler be potentially blocking Attard Zamula or Ginning next season?
- hello it's me 2050

Seeler should be the 7th guy. We all know that and no one says anything different.

Hey we just signed Will Zmolek ….a new topic already.
- landros 2

RHD will be joining Zamula on the Phantoms as part of the ZZ Top pairing.

Seeler should be the 7th guy. We all know that and no one says anything different.
- MBFlyerfan

So will we blaming the coach or GM when you all complain when a young Dman comes plays like crap and doesn’t make the team and Seeler is the 6th?