UFA is 7 seasons or 27, so I think you're off a year. They have a little time. Deferring on a decision again after this bridge deal is problematic, as we've seen too many times.

I don't know why we're assuming all of the prospects are going to be so slow to hit the NHL. History suggests we should start to see some next year.
- Lunaion

Good catch., thanks.

The "when" of Mitts gaining UFA status isn't the major point of the discussion.
The central point is don't let them walk forq nothing, unless the is a very high QO situation that isn't of value to meet....even in that case, trade and get assets back.

Waaaaay too much internet spent on it, I'm moving along.

I really think our defensive system didnt bring the best in tremaine

Guys a real athlete and durable player, going into his prime. Seems like a good dude and a captain too

This has Patriots signing Edmunds written all over him.

Stephan Gilmore type move.
- Boss34

I think Edmunds had his best year. I started to like him more. I always thought Milano was Keuchly and Edmunds was more of a Thomas Davis. I think Bills can get someone to be productive in his spot.

I couldn’t care less if the Bills ever run the ball, unless they got King Henry. Bills are tied for 2nd betting favorite with KC and Eagles. Might be one more team.

Good catch., thanks.

The "when" of Mitts gaining UFA status isn't the major point of the discussion.
The central point is don't let them walk forq nothing, unless the is a very high QO situation that isn't of value to meet....even in that case, trade and get assets back.

Waaaaay too much internet spent on it, I'm moving along.
- IonSabres

What do you do with all these F's is always a fun conversation.

I think 2.
- Lunaion

I thought they prorated the games in the 2019-2020 Covid season, which would mean Casey only needed to be 'on the roster' for an additional 4 games that season.

I think there's a chance the 19-20 season counts, which would mean he's a UFA after 2 more seasons.

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See this is where i start not believing charts. As most here who watch all the games this chart does not reflect his game.

Im a 50/50 guy on the eye test vs charts. This proves my point at least to me.

Anyone have powers chart?
- ZiggyBuff

The Expected portion hasn't yet been realized, hence why the eye test is different.
Eye Test looking for actual points.
The chart is measuring what an average/replacement player should produce.
The actual hasn't shown up to the eye.

Go get Kendricks and Draft a LB

I thought they prorated the games in the 2019-2020 Covid season, which would mean Casey only needed to be 'on the roster' for an additional 4 games that season.

I think there's a chance the 19-20 season counts, which would mean he's a UFA after 2 more seasons.
- kingcong39

That’s what I was under the assumption of. An additional year of RFA after his deal runs out.

Doesn't Mittelstadt have one season after next before becoming a UFA, due to number of games played the past 5 seasons?

https://www.capfriendly.c...players/casey-mittelstadt
- kingcong39

The tricky part is 19/20. Takes 40 games to count as a year towards UFA. He played 31 in a shortened season. I don't believe that counts, but I've never been able to find revised requirements (if they even exist).

I thought they prorated the games in the 2019-2020 Covid season, which would mean Casey only needed to be 'on the roster' for an additional 4 games that season.

I think there's a chance the 19-20 season counts, which would mean he's a UFA after 2 more seasons.
- kingcong39

See above, but he played 36 games in Roch vs 31 in Buffalo. I think he'd fall just below the requirement.

Prorating would mean 34.5. Can't see that he missed those games from injury.

See above, but he played 36 games in Roch vs 31 in Buffalo. I think he'd fall just below the requirement.

Prorating would mean 34.5. Can't see that he missed those games from injury.
- Lunaion

Why would it have to be injury? Could just as easily be in the press box for 4 additional games.

Why would it have to be injury? Could just as easily be in the press box for 4 additional games.
- kingcong39

Rule is pretty specific that it needs to be hockey related injury.

He played 67 games total. Sabres played 69. I don't see where he would have missed those games, but I could easily be missing something. It's close, think he just missed.

Dahlin-Bryson paired in warmups.

What is Granato doing?

Dahlin-Bryson paired in warmups.

What is Granato doing?
- sbroads24

Pairing the worst with the best.

I think Edmunds had his best year. I started to like him more. I always thought Milano was Keuchly and Edmunds was more of a Thomas Davis. I think Bills can get someone to be productive in his spot.

I couldn’t care less if the Bills ever run the ball, unless they got King Henry. Bills are tied for 2nd betting favorite with KC and Eagles. Might be one more team.
- Hatboro_Swords

Agreed on Edmund's, really more likeable this season.
I have some anxiety losing him now.
I feel like he has a lot of intangibles.
Off field good guy
NFL petigree
Very durable.
Still young for his 2nd contract
Sheer size and speed ratio.

I cant put my finger on his negatives, maybe football IQ?

Milano's the heart beat of this defense.

My eye test says he's been better than a 1/10 defensively, although maybe that's just because I'm grading on a scale as a rookie. It can be tough to accept biases even when recognized
- Hank Balling

Yup these charts dont make a ton of sense.

He pretty much always makes the right play in the d zone or leaving the d zone. Does he have rookie mistakes. Yes. But not as bad as this chart is saying

Lamar Jackson stinks, 500 mill my ass, he couldn't hold Allen's jock.

Lamar Jackson stinks, 500 mill my ass, he couldn't hold Allen's jock.
- SABRES 89

Allen contract = best nfl deal
Tage contract = best nhl deal

Hard to argue against this....

Rule is pretty specific that it needs to be hockey related injury.

He played 67 games total. Sabres played 69. I don't see where he would have missed those games, but I could easily be missing something. It's close, think he just missed.
- Lunaion

I thought games on an active roster means you are on the roster whether you played, were injured or you were in the press box for the night.

>>> Has seven (7) Accrued Seasons where an Accrued Season is earned when the player was on the clubs active roster for 40 Regular Season games (30 if the player is a goaltender). Games missed due to a hockey related injury will count towards an accrued season in the season of the injury, plus one additional season after the injury.

Dahlin-Bryson paired in warmups.

What is Granato doing?
- sbroads24

They were paired together last night quite a bit

game is not on Msg AGAIN WTF.

Your condescending attitude and the apparent need to feel like the smartest guy in the room sucks ass
...it’s also kinda funny though, when you’re the one who just can’t grasp the concept of toughness that others speak of. If it can’t be laid out in black and white stats you struggle to see any value. You keep coming back to meaningless stats to try to prove you’re right, when along you’re the one missing the point. Then when that doesn’t work you cherry-pick certain examples that enforce your narrative. You don’t agree with the idea that a degree of toughness (not hit counts) adds to a team’s success. That’s ok, you don’t have to go on and on trying to enlighten us.
- Ratsreign

Yeah, Colorado and Tampa are analytic gods that won the last 3 cups.

Kucherov had 66 points in 48 games in two consecutive playoff runs. Point averaged over a PPG, and Vasilesky saved 40+ goals over expected on route to those said cups.

That’s not even talking about Stammer, Hedman (the best d-man in hockey those two seasons) and Cirelli who’s elite defensively without necessarily being physical.

Colorado was one of the softest teams in hockey last year, but won the cup. They were able to defend well without being physical and beat teams with their speed and skill.

The common theme with Stanley Cup Winners is a hot goalie and the best players putting up points.

The Penguins team that won back to back hardly had any beef either. Literally Hornqvist is the only name that stands out that is any physical.

Columbus up 3-0 on Pittsburgh

Yup these charts dont make a ton of sense.

He pretty much always makes the right play in the d zone or leaving the d zone. Does he have rookie mistakes. Yes. But not as bad as this chart is saying
- ZiggyBuff

I enjoy evolving hockey's product just to "fact check" my thoughts against the "data." It's one tool among many to evaluate a player's value.

It's well worth $5 a month for a lot of their raw stats like GAR, etc.

Lot of hooking and grabbing already