God help us. Then again, maybe it's a good thing. Might mean it will be sooner that Tortorella is fired.
- MJL

Why not? The Flyers will become a young and enthusiastic team of middle 6 talent that blocks shots and checks the hell out of the other team. They might even win a playoff round or two. Oh wait, the Flyers will just be the Columbus Blue Jackets circa 2017!

I never said anything specific linking JvR and Buffalo. There are 32 teams in the league.
- SuperSchennBros

And how many of those teams needed a PP specialist net-front guy AND could absorb JVR's cap hit AND thought JVR was their best option?

The answer is obviously zero.

I don't believe this for a second. I see no evidence that JVR helped Tippet. I believe the coaching and encouragement of what Tippet can be from Torts is the primary reason Tippet is starting to demonstrate he can be a dynamic player. Most nights, its Tippet and TK that elevate the rest of the team!
- jd250

Tippett and TK appear to be the only two play drivers on this team. They can carry the puck and make something happen. I don't see that from any other player on this team. Farabee possibly could be another one, but he is just having an atrocious year. Frost just doesn't seem to have that knack at all other than the occasional game when they are playing a team that doesn't bother to check. Sanheim still looks like a little girl on many nights and I wouldn't have signed him to a long term deal. He has been in the league long enough and should be further ahead.

I think the term of the Sanheim contract is too long. I don't feel he is a max term player but it's not a ridiculous move. Sanheim is a good player.

There are some who believe that Fletcher will be removed after the season. We can only hope.
- MJL

As you might ask me, what evidence is there that Sanheim is a NHL player that deserves $6M+ per season? Its not just the term of the contract, its the AVV also. Using the 200 game rule for defenseman, Sanheim has played 396 NHL games. He is soft in his own end, he adds 0 to the PP and offensively it would appear he peaked at 22 years old. As a defenseman he is what he is and honestly its not good. It was a horrible contract that this team could not afford at the time and can't afford now. And the Flyers are completely stuck with him, no team is going to take on that term unless the Flyers cover half the salary which would make the Flyers even more of a laughing stock than they already are.

I don't believe this for a second. I see no evidence that JVR helped Tippet. I believe the coaching and encouragement of what Tippet can be from Torts is the primary reason Tippet is starting to demonstrate he can be a dynamic player. Most nights, its Tippet and TK that elevate the rest of the team!
- jd250

It's not coaching. All Tippet needed was ice time. He wasn't getting it in Florida.

It's not coaching. All Tippet needed was ice time. He wasn't getting it in Florida.
- MJL

The Flyers could win the Cup and you wouldn't give Torts any credit.

JVR 3 years ago I would agree with you. JVR of today, I take Greenway all day; not that I want that stiff either. Regarding Torts, you need to relax and understand satire a bit. Of course Torts does not deserve the Jack Adams award based on the definition of the award which I posted in a subsequent post. My point was targeted to those that were calling Torts an archaic coach, that Torts had actually evolved and was doing a fantastic job this year.
- jd250

You've posted multiple times that Tortorella deserves the Jack Adams hands down. It was not satire. You were completely serious. Just like you were when you've said that Ristolainen is the Flyers best defenseman umpteen times and even on occasion that he was one of the best defenseman in the league.
Coaches like Tortorella don't evolve. They stick with what they've been doing and what they've had success with in the past come hell or high water.

As you might ask me, what evidence is there that Sanheim is a NHL player that deserves $6M+ per season? Its not just the term of the contract, its the AVV also. Using the 200 game rule for defenseman, Sanheim has played 396 NHL games. He is soft in his own end, he adds 0 to the PP and offensively it would appear he peaked at 22 years old. As a defenseman he is what he is and honestly its not good. It was a horrible contract that this team could not afford at the time and can't afford now. And the Flyers are completely stuck with him, no team is going to take on that term unless the Flyers cover half the salary which would make the Flyers even more of a laughing stock than they already are.
- jd250

The AAV is perfectly fine for a player of his caliber. Just not with 8 years of term. Sanheim had his best season last year, not at 22. That's why they gave him the contract they did. He hasn't been given much of chance on the PP for some reason.
It's really comical to read from someone who lavishes and praises Ristolainen frequently that with Sanheim it's not good. Compounded with statements such as McAvoy is not one of the top defenseman in the league. Let's just say defenseman aren't your forte. It's not a horrible contract at all. Hopefully when the Flyers add more talent, he'll get better with it.

The Flyers could win the Cup and you wouldn't give Torts any credit.

- Phillywhiteout

I've given Tortorella credit multiple times this season.

The Flyers could win the Cup and you wouldn't give Torts any credit.

- Phillywhiteout

The Flyers could win the Cup lol...

The Flyers could win the Cup lol...
- Tomahawk

Tortorella would not only be the Jack Adams award winner hands down. He'd be the best coach in the history of the league.

So on the broadcast for the leaf game tonight between period they were talking about the deadline. Apparently the "big moves" for the Flyers will be done at the draft. Whatever that really means.

Which to be fair, is the time when guys with more contracts like Hayes/Provorov/whomever are usually moved and dealt with.

The question is, will CF be the guy to do it or someone else? I know what everyone here wants.
- Aaron_85

The same guys said last year that the Flyers were going to be going through an aggressive retool and that Johnny Hockey was going to Philly if he didn’t resign in Calgary. They listen to what the the Flyers are saying….unfortunately the Flyers do not do what they say. All we can hope is that Fletcher is not the guy making decisions for much longer ….the longer he stays the more damage he does.

Tortorella would not only be the Jack Adams award winner hands down. He'd be the best coach in the history of the league.
- MJL

But with hell frozen over and all the pigs flying around, who would even notice?

Lets not forget the GM dropped the ball not trading Seeler as well.

JVR 3 years ago I would agree with you. JVR of today, I take Greenway all day; not that I want that stiff either. Regarding Torts, you need to relax and understand satire a bit. Of course Torts does not deserve the Jack Adams award based on the definition of the award which I posted in a subsequent post. My point was targeted to those that were calling Torts an archaic coach, that Torts had actually evolved and was doing a fantastic job this year.
- jd250

he is an archaic coach, tha cant be denied. he is adverse to skill and offense to a big extent. this is also fact.

can you break down how he has evolved?

Why not? The Flyers will become a young and enthusiastic team of middle 6 talent that blocks shots and checks the hell out of the other team. They might even win a playoff round or two. Oh wait, the Flyers will just be the Columbus Blue Jackets circa 2017!
- jd250

rather have a talented team. flyers new and current core is well not all that great.

And how many of those teams needed a PP specialist net-front guy AND could absorb JVR's cap hit AND thought JVR was their best option?

The answer is obviously zero.
- Tomahawk

or chuch asked to much and wouldn't budge until it was way to late. That is possible right?

Do you think Chuck had an opportunity to move JVR in the last 2 weeks and declined?

As you might ask me, what evidence is there that Sanheim is a NHL player that deserves $6M+ per season? Its not just the term of the contract, its the AVV also. Using the 200 game rule for defenseman, Sanheim has played 396 NHL games. He is soft in his own end, he adds 0 to the PP and offensively it would appear he peaked at 22 years old. As a defenseman he is what he is and honestly its not good. It was a horrible contract that this team could not afford at the time and can't afford now. And the Flyers are completely stuck with him, no team is going to take on that term unless the Flyers cover half the salary which would make the Flyers even more of a laughing stock than they already are.
- jd250

he has had arguably a slightly better than average career so far. Should have 100% been moved.

Can't wait for the set me up for life contract Hart and TK get. Ivan may not stay as he may just decide to walk.

It's not coaching. All Tippet needed was ice time. He wasn't getting it in Florida.
- MJL

Coaching has been a part of it. How much is the question.

He got chances in florida and didnt take advantage of them.

How was the weekend Cliff? pounding away on the keyboard i see. Any thoughts on bringing Ronald back as a senior advisor when he is fired.

Pens lose again last night! Hexy with another toe out the door! Hey, I gotta root for something.

or chuch asked to much and wouldn't budge until it was way to late. That is possible right?

Do you think Chuck had an opportunity to move JVR in the last 2 weeks and declined?
- hello it's me 2050

No.

The AAV is perfectly fine for a player of his caliber. Just not with 8 years of term. Sanheim had his best season last year, not at 22. That's why they gave him the contract they did. He hasn't been given much of chance on the PP for some reason.
It's really comical to read from someone who lavishes and praises Ristolainen frequently that with Sanheim it's not good. Compounded with statements such as McAvoy is not one of the top defenseman in the league. Let's just say defenseman aren't your forte. It's not a horrible contract at all. Hopefully when the Flyers add more talent, he'll get better with it.
- MJL

no he is overapid as well.

So if the flyers add talent you think sanheim will get better? Isn't the sample size big enough to safely say this is what he is going forward? Can you put a % on what odds Sanheim improves.

Is is possible they see him in practice on the PP and do not like what they see. When you have numerous coaches not using him on the PP something is off. Cant be all the coaches are blind or dumb when there has been a lot of them.

The same guys said last year that the Flyers were going to be going through an aggressive retool and that Johnny Hockey was going to Philly if he didn’t resign in Calgary. They listen to what the the Flyers are saying….unfortunately the Flyers do not do what they say. All we can hope is that Fletcher is not the guy making decisions for much longer ….the longer he stays the more damage he does.
- landros 2

unless the flyers have change of heart or someone like Roberts steps in out of the blue chuck will be back 100%.

The plan they have in place is for danny boy to become the GM after the 2023/34 season. Danny has told them he isn't ready yet. Now that may change though it doesn't sound like it as we sit here today.

No.
- Tomahawk

we disagree though fair enough.

You've posted multiple times that Tortorella deserves the Jack Adams hands down. It was not satire. You were completely serious. Just like you were when you've said that Ristolainen is the Flyers best defenseman umpteen times and even on occasion that he was one of the best defenseman in the league.
Coaches like Tortorella don't evolve. They stick with what they've been doing and what they've had success with in the past come hell or high water.
- MJL

IMO yes I think Torts deserves consideration as the best coach in the league given the job he has done this year with this team, and this roster. However I also posted the definition of the Jack Adams award and clearly Torts would not be considered for that award given its parameters. However it does not at all diminish the job Torts has done with this team, a fact that for some reason you just don't want to admit. Like you posted about Tippet, you are just plain wrong that Tippet has done it on his own with just ice time, just plain wrong! Torts has helped Tippet understand who he is and how he needs to play to be successful. Torts has also harped on Tippet hitting the net with his shots throughout the season. Torts deserves credit for what Tippet has been doing this year, not JVR or anyone else, and its not simply getting ice time! And Risto for parts last season and this season has been the Flyers most steady defenseman, that is just a fact! Again, you may say I have problems with defenseman, well maybe so. But you definitely have problems with giving players and coaches credit when they are deserved simply because you don't like them, and that's sad.