These are jd250 facts, right? Seems to me a player who can't defend or win puck buttles. Can't drive offense and can't play on the PP. Wouldn't even be in the NHL, right? Sounds very similar to what you said about Frost when you said he was an AHL player.
- MJL

Frost will be off this team by the summer, mark my words. Any team with Frost in their top 6 is NOT a good hockey team. Frost at best can be a 3rd line C, which the Flyers have an abundance of right now. Sanheim IMO is not a good defenseman, and really never was, and didn't come close to deserving the contract he got. He should have been traded at this deadline for a 2023 pick. Fletcher as he usually does misread the market and the evaluation of his own players.

The Flyers have been in about 85% of the game this season, which is a significant improvement from last year. When the Flyers do get outplayed it because they are facing a vastly superior team in terms of talent and speed of play. This is Tort's fault or his coaching staff, but is the simple reality that the Flyers lack the type of players that can compete with any team in the league. Its really not rocket science, Torts is getting the most out of what he has to work with.
- jd250

Here is reality for you.

Defensively. CA/60 28th xGA/60 21st SCA/60 24th HDCA/60 24th

Offensively CF/60 25th xGF/60 25th SCF/60 29th HDCF/60 25th

Can you show me any statistical data or evidence that shows that the Flyers have been in about 85% of the game or that shows that Tortorella is getting the most out of what he has to work with. Since it's not rocket science. That should not be that difficult to do.

You see, this is why I know you never came even close to playing hockey. With the roster Torts has to work with, this is the ONLY way he can play and compete. Torts is not here to tank, he is a professional hockey coach that wants to compete and win every single time he coaches a game, that is how he is wired. That is also how a true NHL professional player is wired. Without this basic foundation, no player can even get to the level of an NHL player. If and when Torts gets the top-end talent on this roster and still employs the same system as he does right now, I will gladly say I was wrong about Torts, but right now you cannot possibly use this season as a gauge as to how Torts has evolved or hasn't evolved as a coach.
- jd250

LMAO. First of all, if I hadn't been explaining it to you, you wouldn't even know how Tortorella is playing. One of us can talk in depth about how Tortorella plays and the other can't. Tortorella has been a NHL coach for how long. Every team he coaches plays the same way. We can use this season and every season that Tortorella has been a coach to know that he hasn't evolved.

Frost will be off this team by the summer, mark my words. Any team with Frost in their top 6 is NOT a good hockey team. Frost at best can be a 3rd line C, which the Flyers have an abundance of right now. Sanheim IMO is not a good defenseman, and really never was, and didn't come close to deserving the contract he got. He should have been traded at this deadline for a 2023 pick. Fletcher as he usually does misread the market and the evaluation of his own players.
- jd250

Frost is an AHL player.
Sanheim sucks, is not a good defenseman and never really was.
Charlie McAvoy is not one of the top defenseman in the league and is overpaid.

Then we have. Ristolainen is the Flyers best defenseman and one of the best in the league.

If Frost is off of the Flyers and playing with another NHL team. Would he still be an NHL player? Do you think Frost would have value to any other NHL team.

You don't post to give an honest opinion. You post in a way that you think you can get at me. It's hysterical and juvenile.