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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 3 @ 8:32 PM ET
They traded Bo Horvat and a 2nd round pick for Hronek, Raty, Beauvillier and a 4th round pick. At the end of the day, providing the haters take their shades off, they got a top four 25 year old right shot dman, a winger who’s producing with EP40 (although I’m sure Lordy could pop a few in that spot) and a good young center prospect.

The trades, in and of themselves in their totality, are not that bad when you consider roster needs and money they would’ve had to spend to keep Horvat.

- LeftCoaster


They traded a 35 goal(with near 1/4 season left) scoring C in his prime, *retained salary, and a high 2nd round pick for a 15 goal scoring winger(with near 1/4 season left), an injured 2nd pairing RD and a B prospect in his 20's who is struggling in the AHL, and a 4rth.

Islanders know what they got... Bo is as proven as it gets. Canucks on the otherhand get all kinds of question marks and risks. Does Beauvillier fall off after a trade bump? He has struggled up to his trade. What is the deal with Hronek's injury? Why was Stevie Y so interested in trading him at 25y/o when everyone else thinks this player is trending upwards and is not on an expiring contract? Raty... well there are plenty of red flags there... and he hasnt done poop in Abby so far. He is far from NHL ready and not exactly showing a upward trend.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 3 @ 8:35 PM ET
Button draft facts

2005-2014 drafts... approx 40 players play min 350 games per draft.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/vi...23-tsn-mock-draft~2639197

Not high on his mock though.

Button is a moron though, comparing Sale to Pastrnak in his draft year. Pasta played in Sweden 2nd div. not in Czechia.
Vental
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.11.2019

Mar 3 @ 8:35 PM ET
When is buyout day?

- VANTEL




I'll have my OEL elimination drink tray at the ready.
Vental
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.11.2019

Mar 3 @ 8:36 PM ET
Google says Thursday, June 29?
- VanHockeyGuy


2022 or 2023?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 3 @ 8:38 PM ET
They traded a 35 goal(with near 1/4 season left) scoring C in his prime, *retained salary, and a high 2nd round pick for a 15 goal scoring winger(with near 1/4 season left), an injured 2nd pairing RD and a B prospect in his 20's who is struggling in the AHL.

Islanders know what they got... Bo is as proven as it gets. Canucks on the otherhand get all kinds of question marks and risks. Does Beauvillier fall off after a trade bump? He has struggled up to his trade. What is the deal with Hronek's injury? Why was Stevie Y so interested in trading him at 25y/o when everyone else thinks this player is trending upwards and is not on an expiring contract? Raty... well there are plenty of red flags there... and he hasnt done poop in Abby so far. He is far from NHL ready and not exactly showing a upward trend.

- boonerbuck

Horvats a great player, but expensive and they weren’t successful with him. Was that his fault, no, but you can’t keep doing the same thing and expect different results. Trading him brought a bit more depth and supposedly a more balanced roster.
Vental
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.11.2019

Mar 3 @ 8:45 PM ET
They traded a 35 goal(with near 1/4 season left) scoring C in his prime, *retained salary, and a high 2nd round pick for a 15 goal scoring winger(with near 1/4 season left), an injured 2nd pairing RD and a B prospect in his 20's who is struggling in the AHL, and a 4rth.

Islanders know what they got... Bo is as proven as it gets. Canucks on the otherhand get all kinds of question marks and risks. Does Beauvillier fall off after a trade bump? He has struggled up to his trade. What is the deal with Hronek's injury? Why was Stevie Y so interested in trading him at 25y/o when everyone else thinks this player is trending upwards and is not on an expiring contract? Raty... well there are plenty of red flags there... and he hasnt done poop in Abby so far. He is far from NHL ready and not exactly showing a upward trend.

- boonerbuck


They traded a 2nd round pick and an expiring UFA that they were not going to resign who was a selfish cancer in the room for 3 former top picks including, a top 10 25yo RHD putting up gaudy numbers, an 21yo A+center prospect with 3C as his floor, a 25yo point per game winger under contract for another year at 4m, a 19yo B+winger prospect and a second round pick.

Can't do much better then that!

They got better, younger, deeper, younger and better. All they gave up was someone who would walk at the end of the season and a bust of a steady pick.

JR is the man!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 3 @ 8:46 PM ET


Rugby 7s at BC Place. ASL?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Mar 3 @ 8:49 PM ET
Button draft facts

2005-2014 drafts... approx 40 players play min 350 games per draft.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/vi...23-tsn-mock-draft~2639197

Not high on his mock though.

Button is a moron though, comparing Sale to Pastrnak in his draft year. Pasta played in Sweden 2nd div. not in Czechia.

- manvanfan


I keep it simple and go with Bob & Dobber as a guideline.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Mar 3 @ 8:50 PM ET


Rugby 7s at BC Place. ASL?

- VANTEL


That's awesome!
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Mar 3 @ 8:52 PM ET
Neo left Kiwi.
- VanHockeyGuy



via GIPHY

dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Mar 3 @ 8:58 PM ET


Only good thing that ever came from New Zealand was the Lord of the Rings Halflings.

- LordHumungous


oh, as cultured as you come across, i somehow doubt you've made it out here to make such declarations.

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 3 @ 8:58 PM ET
Horvats a great player, but expensive and they weren’t successful with him. Was that his fault, no, but you can’t keep doing the same thing and expect different results. Trading him brought a bit more depth and supposedly a more balanced roster.
- LeftCoaster


You must have quoted the wrong person. I said nothing that had anything to do with your... what ever this is. In fact I haven't seen anyone argue against the fact that Bo had to be traded since it went down. I was the first one back when Miller was signed saying Bo is their only big trade option now. Many lectured me that it wasn't so at the time... and they could still resign him etc etc etc...

if you actually read the post you quoted, you can see that I'm debating the return, not whether he should have been traded.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Mar 3 @ 8:59 PM ET
I'm guessing VAN drafts D Axel Sandin Pellikka

Hope it's D David Reinbacher

LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 3 @ 9:03 PM ET
I'm guessing VAN drafts D Axel Sandin Pellikka

Hope it's D David Reinbacher

- VanHockeyGuy

I hope they win the lottery and draft Bedard. #Canuckluck
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Mar 3 @ 9:05 PM ET
I hope they win the lottery and draft Bedard. #Canuckluck
- LeftCoaster


i'm hoping top 5, but expecting 7-8.

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 3 @ 9:07 PM ET
They traded a 2nd round pick and an expiring UFA that they were not going to resign who was a selfish cancer in the room for 3 former top picks including, a top 10 25yo RHD putting up gaudy numbers, an 21yo A+center prospect with 3C as his floor, a 25yo point per game winger under contract for another year at 4m, a 19yo B+winger prospect and a second round pick.

Can't do much better then that!

They got better, younger, deeper, younger and better. All they gave up was someone who would walk at the end of the season and a bust of a steady pick.

JR is the man!

- Vental


Raty an A+ center prospect? WTF? 3l C is his floor? His floor is the AHL... and he isn't nowhere near a NHL player yet.


Who's this 25y/o point per game winger you are talking about? He has 31 points in 61 one games.

This 19y/o winger prospect you speak of wasn't part of the Bo trade.

Bo is probably going to score 40 goals this season. He is a beast on the PP, takes the most faceoffs in the league, near or at the top in f/o numbers always... a true playoff performer.... still trending upwards in his career.

People keep exaggerating how great the return is... or in your case just making crap up.

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 3 @ 9:08 PM ET
I hope they win the lottery and draft Bedard. #Canuckluck
- LeftCoaster


They would trade the pick for Seth Jones.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 3 @ 9:10 PM ET
i'm hoping top 5, but expecting 7-8.
- dbot

Top three would be sweet!! Top five would be great.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 3 @ 9:10 PM ET
I'm guessing VAN drafts D Axel Sandin Pellikka

Hope it's D David Reinbacher

- VanHockeyGuy

I think he falls into 20s.

He was getting less and less time in the SHL.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 3 @ 9:10 PM ET
They would trade the pick for Seth Jones.
- VANTEL

No they wouldn’t.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Mar 3 @ 9:15 PM ET
I think he falls into 20s.

He was getting less and less time in the SHL.

- manvanfan


In any case I hope it ends up being a C or D
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 3 @ 9:19 PM ET
In any case I hope it ends up being a C or D
- VanHockeyGuy

If the next 3 best players are wingers, they better trade down.

I was watching Moose Jaw vs Brandon the other day. Yager and Danielson were not too impressive.

Starting to like Riley Heidt.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Mar 3 @ 9:29 PM ET
If the next 3 best players are wingers, they better trade down.

I was watching Moose Jaw vs Brandon the other day. Yager and Danielson were not too impressive.

Starting to like Riley Heidt.

- manvanfan


100%, The sad part it's unlikely they will.
Vental
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.11.2019

Mar 3 @ 10:04 PM ET
oh, as cultured as you come across, i somehow doubt you've made it out here to make such declarations.


- dbot


Crocodile Dundee was a great New Zealand series!
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 3 @ 10:12 PM ET
Crocodile Dundee was a great New Zealand series!

- Vental





An actual good show from NZ...

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