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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 3 @ 11:26 AM ET
Maybe if you guys retain half the salaries lol.
- 123Kid


That means I have to give you our 2023 1st....it's the Flyers way.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:26 AM ET
I agree with 1...but regarding 2...if there's a 3rd team involved ...is it possible Bonino is having 75% of his cap hit retained? haha..if so, he's not expensive at all.
- MattStrat


Point 2 was more in regards to Granlund, not Bones.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Mar 3 @ 11:26 AM ET
Mate, you vastly overestimate how much JT Miller is valued given that disaster of a contract he just signed.
- SuperHenderson13


Mate I think you vastly misunderstand how valuable PPG 1C, who can play in all situations are. Given the fact that Crosby and Malkin are on the wrong side of the 30 and there’s absolutely zero in the pipeline - the disastrous contract you speak of is completely normally - the final 3 years sure - every team has 2-3 of these type of deals.
Miller is still playing at a very high level on a very bad team. A couple late 1st round picks isn’t gonna sway the team to walk away from him
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 3 @ 11:27 AM ET
That means I have to give you our 2023 1st....it's the Flyers way.
- Glak18



Sounds fair lol
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:27 AM ET
I'm confused because in the last blog, or one before last, RW was saying a big no thanks to a "panic move" for JT.

I would of loved me some JT.

- MattStrat


Because when it comes down to JT Miller, a PPG player vs. Granlund, an allergic to goals player, both on contracts with term, the choice is easy. It's JT Miller all day.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:28 AM ET
Mate I think you vastly misunderstand how valuable PPG 1C, who can play in all situations are. Given the fact that Crosby and Malkin are on the wrong side of the 30 and there’s absolutely zero in the pipeline - the disastrous contract you speak of is completely normally - the final 3 years sure - every team has 2-3 of these type of deals.
Miller is still playing at a very high level on a very bad team. A couple late 1st round picks isn’t gonna sway the team to walk away from him

- Brooks_Light


^^This. Who gives a poop what happens in years 5-7 when Sid and Geno are in their wheelchairs. If he is even remotely close to a PPG in the first 4 years of that contract, it would have been worth it for the Pens.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 3 @ 11:30 AM ET
Sounds fair lol
- 123Kid


1st round *Conditional

*Gritty becomes new logo
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:31 AM ET
^^This. Who gives a poop what happens in years 5-7 when Sid and Geno are in their wheelchairs. If he is even remotely close to a PPG in the first 4 years of that contract, it would have been worth it for the Pens.
- j.boyd919

Yea I'm all in for JT, that would make a pretty damn good third line this year. And like you said he's the Zucker replacement next year.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 3 @ 11:31 AM ET
I dont follow the news close enough so maybe the fans can tell me. Why is management riding the fence on "one last ride" and rebuilding? Why re sign the vets last year if they weren't going to push for playoffs?

Letang/Crosby/malkin aren't getting younger next year.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:31 AM ET
I assumed when he Pens hired Hextall it was to slowly tear it down and create cap space and add picks. Not sure why they hired him to keep going for it.
- rayc16


Because when you have Sid, Geno, and Letang still playing at high levels, you keep going for it until they retire, then rebuild.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:32 AM ET
1st round *Conditional

*Gritty becomes new logo

- Glak18


I love the dumpster fire that is Gritty.
NJPensfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.25.2006

Mar 3 @ 11:32 AM ET
Maybe if you guys retain half the salaries lol.
- 123Kid


And Hextall.
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Mar 3 @ 11:34 AM ET
DOC sent down , hope that is only a paper move.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 3 @ 11:34 AM ET
Point 2 was more in regards to Granlund, not Bones.
- j.boyd919



Yeah, that cap hit is sh!t hahaha
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 3 @ 11:35 AM ET
Because when it comes down to JT Miller, a PPG player vs. Granlund, an allergic to goals player, both on contracts with term, the choice is easy. It's JT Miller all day.
- j.boyd919


oh absofvckinglutley.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 3 @ 11:38 AM ET
1st round *Conditional

*Gritty becomes new logo

- Glak18


Sounds good to us! I agree w/ Jboyd I love Gritty
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 3 @ 11:39 AM ET
Sounds good to us! I agree w/ Jboyd I love Gritty
- 123Kid


He's hard to dislike, isn't he?
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:43 AM ET
DOC sent down , hope that is only a paper move.
- kfinl170
Hopefully
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 3 @ 11:48 AM ET
#Hextend Ron
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:48 AM ET
He's hard to dislike, isn't he?
- MattStrat


He's the disaster that every mascot should be, it's hilarious.
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 3 @ 11:49 AM ET
Next up, Kessel and Hagelin.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 3 @ 11:50 AM ET
#Hextend Ron
- Victoro311


hahahah
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 3 @ 11:50 AM ET
Mayabe Bonino is the C that Vancouver wants and they're the 3rd team in this brokerage hahahah
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 3 @ 11:51 AM ET
He's the disaster that every mascot should be, it's hilarious.
- j.boyd919

Between Gritty and the Phanatic, Philly is really good at the whole mascot thing.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Mar 3 @ 11:52 AM ET
Mate I think you vastly misunderstand how valuable PPG 1C, who can play in all situations are. Given the fact that Crosby and Malkin are on the wrong side of the 30 and there’s absolutely zero in the pipeline - the disastrous contract you speak of is completely normally - the final 3 years sure - every team has 2-3 of these type of deals.
Miller is still playing at a very high level on a very bad team. A couple late 1st round picks isn’t gonna sway the team to walk away from him

- Brooks_Light

I agree with you, Miller would be a great acquisition for the Penguins as I, along with many others here, have said for the last week. But they are one of the few teams that it would make sense for. I couldnt careless what happens after 3-4 years. This team will be terrible after our core retires, everyone here is ready for it. So am I willing to pay for a guy like Miller for those 3-4 years? Sure I am. Am I willing to overpay for a guy like that who himself will be 30 before his new contract even kicks in? No, and most teams wont either.

The fact Rutherford is even fielding offers for Miller after signing him to that extension tells you how he values him in the whole grand scheme of things.
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