Someone comes to me with the solution to an extremely complex mathematical problem and wants to claim credit for it. I ask them what's one plus one. They think about it for a minute and then answer five. I'm not going to believe they solved the extremely complex problem. It's that simple. No one can look at Dorion's trade history and come to the conclusion that he's some kind of hockey guru.

- Whatisavailable

The Chycrun trade was a very solid deal by Dorion. The move was facilitated by the Zaitsev move a week earlier - which shows foresight to put himself in a position to make the trade, likely knowing Arizona's aversion to taking on any dollars. For whatever reason, other GMs could not or would not do that trade. Kudos and credit to Dorion. It's that fu*kin simple.

Why would you be surprised that Dorion needed Board approval. We are two weeks away from the final bidders being selected. This is a significant financial commitment, different from what the documents revealed for the original bid study. I am sure the Board kept the bidding process advised of the options being considered.

In matters like this courtesy and protocol matter.
- spatso

Why would you think I was surprised? I was pleased to see that whoever made up this board seemed to have good judgement.

The Chycrun trade was a very solid deal by Dorion. The move was facilitated by the Zaitsev move a week earlier - which shows foresight to put himself in a position to make the trade, likely knowing Arizona's aversion to taking on any dollars. For whatever reason, other GMs could not or would not do that trade. Kudos and credit to Dorion. It's that fu*kin simple.
- SensFan25

So you think that there was not enough cap room to bring Chychrun aboard unless Zaitsev was moved? OOOOOKAY! Better let the people over at cap friendly know.

So you think that there was not enough cap room to bring Chychrun aboard unless Zaitsev was moved? OOOOOKAY! Better let the people over at cap friendly know.
- Whatisavailable

it is cheaper to move a bad contract when you do not have to move it, in order to sign Huberdeau and weegar, CGY HAD to move monohan thus the 1st round pick cost, same deal when the leafs moved Marleau it cost them a first because they HAD to move the contract, OTT did not need to move Zeitsev so cost was cheap, OTT could have taken on Cych this season with easy, however next season would have been difficult to sign Cat this would cost more to move Zeitsev or Cat would be worth less in a trade.

So you think that there was not enough cap room to bring Chychrun aboard unless Zaitsev was moved? OOOOOKAY! Better let the people over at cap friendly know.
- Whatisavailable

I'm 100% aware that there was the cap space to bring in Chycrun without the Zaitsev move. I suspect it was to give a clean slate to sign Debrincat + give space for a top 4D.
The Chycrun trade was an excellent move by Dorion. While I am not a huge Dorion fan, I give credit where it is due.

And while it has been a long and winding path for the Senators to get to where they are today, I am confident that the team has a solid base to compete with the big boys in a division that has some of the league's true heavyweights.
Lots of rebuilds turn out horribly bad - look at the last ten years in Buffalo. And there are lots of mediocre teams that burden themselves with bad contracts and bad asset management like Vancouver or Nashville. Things are not perfect here with Ottawa but they are looking pretty good right now. And Dorion deserves much, if not most of the credit for that.

it is cheaper to move a bad contract when you do not have to move it, in order to sign Huberdeau and weegar, CGY HAD to move monohan thus the 1st round pick cost, same deal when the leafs moved Marleau it cost them a first because they HAD to move the contract, OTT did not need to move Zeitsev so cost was cheap, OTT could have taken on Cych this season with easy, however next season would have been difficult to sign Cat this would cost more to move Zeitsev or Cat would be worth less in a trade.
- Mithos

I would much rather sign Pinto and get ahead of things with Sanderson like they did with Stutzle. Show DeBrincat the door.

I'm 100% aware that there was the cap space to bring in Chycrun without the Zaitsev move. I suspect it was to give a clean slate to sign Debrincat + give space for a top 4D.
The Chycrun trade was an excellent move by Dorion. While I am not a huge Dorion fan, I give credit where it is due.

And while it has been a long and winding path for the Senators to get to where they are today, I am confident that the team has a solid base to compete with the big boys in a division that has some of the league's true heavyweights.
Lots of rebuilds turn out horribly bad - look at the last ten years in Buffalo. And there are lots of mediocre teams that burden themselves with bad contracts and bad asset management like Vancouver or Nashville. Things are not perfect here with Ottawa but they are looking pretty good right now. And Dorion deserves much, if not most of the credit for that.
- SensFan25

I think Dorion just wanted to sweep his Zaitsev mistake under the carpet and if the franchise is so unlucky as to have him kept on as GM by the new owners he will insist on giving the kitten big money for term in order to sweep that mistake under the carpet by pretending that that was a brilliant acquisition. If that happens the years will pass by with the fans wondering how come they can never take the next step while steadily moving farther and farther away from any hope for a parade.

what a weak goal by Talbot...why the hell is Soogard not in net.

Looking good! A number 1 Dman on the ice at all times.

Chych first goal as a sens, and CBJ only has 3 shot on net wow, total domination so far

Chych first goal as a sens, and CBJ only has 3 shot on net wow, total domination so far
- Mithos

Wow, didnt notice that stat until you mentioned it.
Hamonic out here playing like he wants to keep that top 4 position lol maybe the #1D on the ice at all times could become a thing.

Wow, didnt notice that stat until you mentioned it.
Hamonic out here playing like he wants to keep that top 4 position lol maybe the #1D on the ice at all times could become a thing.
- RyeDog13

It's an interesting idea isn't it?

2 goals on 8 shots, smith must pull Talbot before he costs the sens a win...

OTT just 3 points out from WC spot and leafs get trounced by Van 4-1, Chych first goal as a sens, Stu past 30 goals and will hit 40!!!

OTT just 3 points out from WC spot and leafs get trounced by Van 4-1, Chych first goal as a sens, Stu past 30 goals and will hit 40!!!
- Mithos

Great game, love these guys.

First time in a long time that we have had that kind of fan joy in the CT Centre.

Can't let up against Chicago tomorrow night.

Great game, love these guys.

First time in a long time that we have had that kind of fan joy in the CT Centre.

Can't let up against Chicago tomorrow night.
- spatso

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Just got back from the game. Great game to be at. Lots of cheers, chants of wanting the playoffs.

They put Chychrun on the big screen near the end on the bench, which led to a resounding cheer, and he did a little pump up gesture with his hands which just made things louder.

Hamonic has been providing a nice jolt of offense these past few games too which is nice.

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Just got back from the game. Great game to be at. Lots of cheers, chants of wanting the playoffs.

They put Chychrun on the big screen near the end on the bench, which led to a resounding cheer, and he did a little pump up gesture with his hands which just made things louder.

Hamonic has been providing a nice jolt of offense these past few games too which is nice.
- david22

OTT just 3 points out from WC spot and leafs get trounced by Van 4-1, Chych first goal as a sens, Stu past 30 goals and will hit 40!!!
- Mithos

Chab.. - 25:35
Zub... - 20:46
Chyc.. +3 18:53
Sand.. +1 18:40
Hamo.. +2 17:27
Brann.. +2 15:42

Filip Gustavsson shut out vs flames, what a bad trade by doorion so far

Filip Gustavsson shut out vs flames, what a bad trade by doorion so far
- Mithos

Not sure what to make of your comment.

Are you suggesting Sens fans should be tempering our enthusiasm over acquiring Chychrun because Gustavsson banked a shutout? Or, should we temper our contentment with the development of Sogaard (a trade acquisition that made the dealing of Gustavsson viable)?

Any GM drafting and trading creates winners and losers.

Winners and Losers have to be judged on the entire body of work. Everything is related to everything. Most commentary gives Dorion super high marks for the last 3 years. I thought most critics of Dorion's decision making had quietly faded into the background.

I have no doubt that the Sens could beat any of the 6 teams battling for the final two WC spots. The problem is they don't just play those teams for rest of the season, and those teams not only play each other (FLA vs PIT last night) but play teams wtih nothing to play for (see TB last night vs Buffalo...woof). And to top it off, Sens play some tought games coming up after these next 3...multiple games vs CAR and TB for example.

But at least there were no 3 pt games last night.

Not sure what to make of your comment.

Are you suggesting Sens fans should be tempering our enthusiasm over acquiring Chychrun because Gustavsson banked a shutout? Or, should we temper our contentment with the development of Sogaard (a trade acquisition that made the dealing of Gustavsson viable)?

Any GM drafting and trading creates winners and losers.

Winners and Losers have to be judged on the entire body of work. Everything is related to everything. Most commentary gives Dorion super high marks for the last 3 years. I thought most critics of Dorion's decision making had quietly faded into the background.
- spatso

You should stop pretending that most commentary gives Dorion high marks for his trade history. That's simply not true. Most people can't wait for the new owners to show Dorion the door.

Some people like to cherry pick and so out of this vast swamp of horrible trades they find a nugget here or there and make their determination based on that and expect everyone to play along with them.

It's kind of like Dorion giving Murray a 6 million dollar contract with term for no reason whatsoever or Dorion ignoring 4 years of NHL performance by Joseph and giving him 3 million dollars based on the 11 meaningless games he played with Ottawa after that imbecilic trade. Trading Gus away was just a relatively minor balls up. I could go on and on and on through the list but that would be pointless because for you none of that stuff ever happened.

Fortunately there are many who base there assessments on a long list of facts that won't fade into the background.

On a more positive note there were long stretches of total domination by the Sens which I haven't seen the likes of in years. There are going to be a lot of chances to evaluate the team based on their play against good opponents and I look forward to that. In the meantime they get Chicago to tune up with.

There was a brief bit there when Chychrun and Chabot were out together and that kind of gave me a tingle. I'd like to see a bit of that given a test run.

Interesting comments regarding Dorion. I am well documented that I think DJ Smith and Pierre Dorion should be replaced once the new owners are in place.

WIth that said, we have witnessed a pretty special week. The team is firing on all cylinders and the Sens acquired a player that you cannot find anyone who can say the Sens didn't win the deal, unanimously. Some credit needs to be given to DJ and Dorion.

Dorion has had a bumpy ride. Some warranted but some ownership pressured. Of the current roster affecting deals:
- I hated the Karlsson deal but now think Stuztle alone makes it worth it.
- I liked the Debrincat deal. Yes Debrincat will not score 40 but he has 54 points in 62 games. Not really too bad for a "down year". Admittedly, I'll like to see more consistency.
- I love the Chychrun deal. No once can knock this deal at this point in time.
- I liked the Talbot deal but now with hindsight, it was not a great deal. I don't think anyone thought Gutsvasson would develop so well, so quickly. Could be a lighting in a bottle year but he looks legit.
- I didn't mind acquiring Jospeh for Paul. I was not a huge fan of the Joseph signing. However, the Joseph and Paul signings were not exactly the same. Paul is slightly more expensive and is signed until 2029, 3 more years than Joseph. Right now, I'd prefer Paul, but that is a long contract for a depth player.

Trades aside, I am most critical of the Josh Norris signing. It hasn't been a great year one of that contract. He already had well-documented shoulder issues. Hopefully surgery can fix things but that situation makes more concerted than Debrincat's in all honesty.

It will be interesting to see what happens with new ownership but Dorion certainly won some points with the Chychrun deal. If this team can continue the hot run, DJ and Dorion may be around next year.

Sens are setting themselves up for needing to win it all in the next couple of years.

Not sure what to make of your comment.

Are you suggesting Sens fans should be tempering our enthusiasm over acquiring Chychrun because Gustavsson banked a shutout? Or, should we temper our contentment with the development of Sogaard (a trade acquisition that made the dealing of Gustavsson viable)?

Any GM drafting and trading creates winners and losers.

Winners and Losers have to be judged on the entire body of work. Everything is related to everything. Most commentary gives Dorion super high marks for the last 3 years. I thought most critics of Dorion's decision making had quietly faded into the background.
- spatso

Honestly....did anyone see this coming from Gus?

Talbot made sense, especially if u took a look at his stats that last year in Minnesota. And he was a trade chip to use if sens were out of contention by last week.

And...truth be told...don't u feel better they have some sort of veteran backstop for the playoff push?

Short time gain train with unproven commodity going back. I think minny gm just wanted the cap savings in shaping the goalies and had no idea this would happen.

Don't mind that goalie trade. Mind the Nick Paul fiasco. Never should have happened