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PittsPens
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Westernport, MD
Joined: 01.06.2012

Mar 2 @ 2:41 PM ET
Can we claim him to take over as our #1 D so we can trade Letang?
- TheGame316


Nope. Hex has a trade for Goligoski worked out for that spot
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Mar 2 @ 2:41 PM ET
The third and fourth lines are always going to have bad numbers. They take almost all of the defensive zone faceoffs. Even when they start on the fly, I've seen the top two lines run off the ice when they lose the puck in the offensive zone. The bottom six would never get away this.

I can't decide on the over or betting Jarry makes the over on saves.

- Thunderbolt

Not true. Plenty of third lines have good numbers. Hard to find fourth lines that don't, but it is possible for example ZAR-Blueger-Tanev
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 2 @ 2:44 PM ET
The third and fourth lines are always going to have bad numbers. They take almost all of the defensive zone faceoffs. Even when they start on the fly, I've seen the top two lines run off the ice when they lose the puck in the offensive zone. The bottom six would never get away this.

I can't decide on the over or betting Jarry makes the over on saves.

- Thunderbolt

Sully and his terrible usage habits definitely are a contributing factor but those dudes are helping themselves much either.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 2 @ 2:53 PM ET
Jason Zucker on reuniting with his former teammate Mikael Granlund: "He's an unbelievable player. We had a lot of great years together in Minnesota - we were drafted in the same year... It was fun to talk to him yesterday. He's pretty excited to be here. He can play all positions. He can play penalty kill, power play - he's a guy you'd love to have out there at the end of a game protecting a lead... I think he'll be great for us."
NJPensfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.25.2006

Mar 2 @ 2:54 PM ET
Not true. Plenty of third lines have good numbers. Hard to find fourth lines that don't, but it is possible for example ZAR-Blueger-Tanev
- Tojo.


That's right. Plus (and I haven’t looked recently), as of mid January the Flames’ 3rd line of Backlund, Mangiapane, and Coleman had the best expected goals percentage metric. They lead all lines this season at 76%, that was better than Bratt, Haula, and Hughes of the Devils, who were 2nd at 69.4%, and the Bruins’ top line of Marchand, Bergeron, and Pastrnak, who were at third at 69.1%.

stefano13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: woodbridge, ON
Joined: 06.30.2013

Mar 2 @ 2:58 PM ET
Maybe someone should convince Craig Patrick to come out of retirement
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 2 @ 2:59 PM ET
They wouldn't have bad numbers if they were good.
- MattStrat

Hey oohhhhh lol
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 2 @ 3:00 PM ET
Hey oohhhhh lol
- 668710


hahaha
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 2 @ 3:01 PM ET
Maybe someone should convince Craig Patrick to come out of retirement
- stefano13

Honestly I just want a young dude who understands cap space as our next GM. I feel like a lot of the issue as to why all these GMs suck is because they’re all old boys who cut their teeth in the no cap era. Get me a dude in his late 30s/early 40s who hasn’t known anything besides a cap’ed NHL.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 2 @ 3:06 PM ET
Honestly I just want a young dude who understands cap space as our next GM. I feel like a lot of the issue as to why all these GMs suck is because they’re all old boys who cut their teeth in the no cap era. Get me a dude in his late 30s/early 40s who hasn’t known anything besides a cap’ed NHL.
- Victoro311

Look I will take the job but you just have to accept I’m signing Tatar.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 2 @ 3:06 PM ET
Derek Pouliot put on waivers....
- MattStrat

He’s still in the league? Legitimately thought he was out by now.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 2 @ 3:08 PM ET
Yea Mike Johnston has become second to Hextall now haha
- 668710

Ah Coach Farce. Good times. That was such a bleak year and half.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Mar 2 @ 3:08 PM ET
Honestly I just want a young dude who understands cap space as our next GM. I feel like a lot of the issue as to why all these GMs suck is because they’re all old boys who cut their teeth in the no cap era. Get me a dude in his late 30s/early 40s who hasn’t known anything besides a cap’ed NHL.
- Victoro311


Maybe when the team sucks next year and they decide to trade Crosby, malkin, and letang to jump start the rebuild, Crosby will retire and be the GM for the 2025-26 season
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 2 @ 3:09 PM ET
He’s still in the league? Legitimately thought he was out by now.
- Victoro311

He’s been on an AHL only deal this season so technically he’s been out of the league.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:13 PM ET
Honestly I just want a young dude who understands cap space as our next GM. I feel like a lot of the issue as to why all these GMs suck is because they’re all old boys who cut their teeth in the no cap era. Get me a dude in his late 30s/early 40s who hasn’t known anything besides a cap’ed NHL.
- Victoro311

That or at least have an assistant GM that knows what the hell's going on when they had to get that dude for Rutherford who ended up going to Buffalo. He wasn't a good GM but he was a great assistant GM.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 2 @ 3:13 PM ET
Look I will take the job but you just have to accept I’m signing Tatar.
- Feds91Stammer


You'd be a better GM than Hex.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Mar 2 @ 3:15 PM ET
You obviously don't remember when Patrick sent Jagr to the Caps for Beech, Sivek and Lupaschuk.

Best GM they ever had was public enemy No. 1 that day.

- NJPensfan


Same day Yashin got both Spezza and Chara if I recall….
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:16 PM ET
Look I will take the job but you just have to accept I’m signing Tatar.
- Feds91Stammer

Hahahaha, I'll get the paperwork ready
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 2 @ 3:20 PM ET
You'd be a better GM than Hex.
- MattStrat

At least half of the HB regulars would be better.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Mar 2 @ 3:20 PM ET
That or at least have an assistant GM that knows what the hell's going on when they had to get that dude for Rutherford who ended up going to Buffalo. He wasn't a good GM but he was a great assistant GM.
- 668710


Or at least communicating with the coaches and being on the same page. “Sullivan, here’s a list of 20 players that could be available. Who do you guys think would fit best with the team? Which roster players would you be ok with moving?”

In that case if you flounder, you can throw the coach under the bus saying you did what the coaches wanted and it didn’t work.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Mar 2 @ 3:23 PM ET
He’s still in the league? Legitimately thought he was out by now.
- Victoro311

All those video games and weed take time to end someone's career.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:33 PM ET
Honestly I just want a young dude who understands cap space as our next GM. I feel like a lot of the issue as to why all these GMs suck is because they’re all old boys who cut their teeth in the no cap era. Get me a dude in his late 30s/early 40s who hasn’t known anything besides a cap’ed NHL.
- Victoro311


Hextall reminds me of our GM in our Calgary office. Old dude with a ton of experience but can't embrace new methods or strategies. Constantly hiring older dudes that are washed up and protecting them cuz they're a good ol boy from podunk alberta. When you asked about his seasoned vet sales guy who hasn't done poop in 5 years....its always well he's not getting the support he needs, market conditions bla bla bla. when the younger unseasoned guy is one of our top global sales reps. But that GM is part of a larger group of industry vets and is untouchable....They all talk about how great things use to be. Meanwhile its hard to find good young talent that want to stick around LOL.....Must be a Canadian mentality.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Mar 2 @ 3:34 PM ET
Jason Zucker on reuniting with his former teammate Mikael Granlund: "He's an unbelievable player. We had a lot of great years together in Minnesota - we were drafted in the same year... It was fun to talk to him yesterday. He's pretty excited to be here. He can play all positions. He can play penalty kill, power play - he's a guy you'd love to have out there at the end of a game protecting a lead... I think he'll be great for us."
- MattStrat


Was this interview from 2016?
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Mar 2 @ 3:39 PM ET
Bjugstad, looked upon unfavorably during his time here, would have been a better acquisition than Granlund. Expiring contract @ 900k, only cost a 3rd...and the Coyotes STILL retained 50% LOL.

Is it worth typing this out for every future trade made?
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:44 PM ET
Bjugstad, looked upon unfavorably during his time here, would have been a better acquisition than Granlund. Expiring contract @ 900k, only cost a 3rd...and the Coyotes STILL retained 50% LOL.

Is it worth typing this out for every future trade made?

- YouMeAndDupuis9


no.
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