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668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 2 @ 8:37 AM ET
They don't want to trade Dumo.
- MattStrat

Shhhh, yes Hextall does 😉
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 2 @ 8:37 AM ET
They would retain enough to make it happen on OEL. It would likely be OEL for Pettersson and McGinn as the deal, cap is pretty close there. By no means do I want a deal like that to happen but I do think that he is a guy like Matheson who could do well playing in our system.

It better not happen and if it does it better include a 1st coming back our way.

- MacPatty


Is OEL still good?
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 2 @ 8:38 AM ET
ROFL!

Fanbase: Get rid of the bottom six.

Hextall: Get's rid of the bottom six.

Moral of the story: Be careful what you wish for, it might come true.

- Thunderbolt

Well I think Granlund is better than Kap or Blue but it's just not what we needed at that cap hit. If there was retention I think we would be able to swallow this better.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Mar 2 @ 8:38 AM ET
Pens now have just about 1.7 mill in cap space.... So why couldn't they call up Nylander or Pruus?
- MattStrat


That's what I said. Why not? I don't want Hex making any more moves that has long term consequences.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 2 @ 8:38 AM ET
Shhhh, yes Hextall does 😉
- 668710


Schenn got a 3rd in 2024, I can’t see dumo bringing back a bag of pucks unless it was part of cap clearing for someone else.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Mar 2 @ 8:41 AM ET
Pens, Sens, Panthers, Sabres and Wings all in action today, all within 5 points of the final wildcard. Pretty big night just prior to the deadline. I think the Wings are just going to go with the flow and sell regardless.

The Sens already grabbed Chuchryn, I think given that they are up for sale they are going to want to push hard to get in this year.

The Panthers have been uncharacteristically quiet. They have a good team that has played like poop. They are a big threat to go on a tear, especially if they make some positive tweaks at the deadline.

I don't think the Sabres are going to go all in, and they will likely fade but they are still there and who knows. Everyone thought Kevyn Adams was a dippoop but it's looking like he has things going in the right direction there.

The worst case scenario for the Pens is to just squeak into the playoffs and get listlessly dumped again in the first round. I'd rather just miss the playoffs and have a lottery shot at a top 5 pick. I just don't know what moves we can make right now that will have us competing with the Rangers, Lightning or Leafs in the playoffs. They have all done a massively better job of positioning themselves for a run.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Mar 2 @ 8:46 AM ET
Is OEL still good?
- sammy87


No, he is definitely not. I could see him have a comeback in the Pens system and getting back to being a top 4 D man but I don't know why we would take that risk and try to find out.

I can't even think of a scenario where a deal for him makes any sense.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Mar 2 @ 8:54 AM ET
Well I think Granlund is better than Kap or Blue but it's just not what we needed at that cap hit. If there was retention I think we would be able to swallow this better.
- 668710


I actually think Granlund is a good pickup. I just didn't like the deal as it handcuffs us for other moves. In my head, Nashville should have had to take McGinn back but I actually wonder if Hextall even wants to trade him. If the Pens can get through the trade deadline with McGinn buried, can't they just bring him up into the lineup in the playoffs?

At this point, the ideal scenario is picking up someone for the top 6 to push Rust down to the 3rd line. Granlund-Carter-Rust could actually be a serviceable line.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Mar 2 @ 8:55 AM ET
Pens, Sens, Panthers, Sabres and Wings all in action today, all within 5 points of the final wildcard. Pretty big night just prior to the deadline. I think the Wings are just going to go with the flow and sell regardless.

The Sens already grabbed Chuchryn, I think given that they are up for sale they are going to want to push hard to get in this year.

The Panthers have been uncharacteristically quiet. They have a good team that has played like poop. They are a big threat to go on a tear, especially if they make some positive tweaks at the deadline.

I don't think the Sabres are going to go all in, and they will likely fade but they are still there and who knows. Everyone thought Kevyn Adams was a dippoop but it's looking like he has things going in the right direction there.

The worst case scenario for the Pens is to just squeak into the playoffs and get listlessly dumped again in the first round. I'd rather just miss the playoffs and have a lottery shot at a top 5 pick. I just don't know what moves we can make right now that will have us competing with the Rangers, Lightning or Leafs in the playoffs. They have all done a massively better job of positioning themselves for a run.

- MacPatty


I said that a week ago as all these teams starting adding really good players. They needed to face facts and focus on next year. Maybe get a little younger and try one last run. A team with 11 starters 30+ and a few others that are really close isn't getting through the Eastern Conference buzz saw this year.

This ownership group is involved with other leagues. They should know you can't compete with a ton of old players.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 2 @ 8:55 AM ET
How much worse can Hextall make things in the next 30 hours? It will likely be his last opportunity to do so.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 2 @ 9:01 AM ET
That's what I said. Why not? I don't want Hex making any more moves that has long term consequences.
- madmike71


Yeah, I thought some hands were saying yesterday that Granny's 5 mill cap hit handcuffed them for callups
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 2 @ 9:10 AM ET
How much worse can Hextall make things in the next 30 hours? It will likely be his last opportunity to do so.
- Feds91Stammer




Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Mar 2 @ 9:12 AM ET
Well I think Granlund is better than Kap or Blue but it's just not what we needed at that cap hit. If there was retention I think we would be able to swallow this better.
- 668710


Granlund is Kapanen's replacement. He'll get the second PP and play on the third line. Sullivan likes his crusty vets, I expect him to get some time with Malkin.

For better or worse Hextall can't be finished.

Personally, I've been waiting for three years to see what Blueger can do with decent wings, maybe he gets the Thrill.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 2 @ 9:12 AM ET
There’s probably a lot more here than in the actual dressing room. I don’t think the players fancy themselves as GM’s as much as the hockey Twitter crowd does.
- Grinder47



I agree with you. They're professional athletes and they have much different attitudes and thought processes than most, or all, of us.

I just meant from a cosmic karma in the universe kinda way the Pens are getting spanked.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 2 @ 9:18 AM ET
Granlund is Kapanen's replacement. He'll get the second PP and play on the third line. Sullivan likes his crusty vets, I expect him to get some time with Malkin.

For better or worse Hextall can't be finished.

Personally, I've been waiting for three years to see what Blueger can do with decent wings, maybe he gets the Thrill.

- Thunderbolt


I mean it can't be much worse can it?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 2 @ 9:20 AM ET
Granlund is Kapanen's replacement. He'll get the second PP and play on the third line. Sullivan likes his crusty vets, I expect him to get some time with Malkin.

For better or worse Hextall can't be finished.

Personally, I've been waiting for three years to see what Blueger can do with decent wings, maybe he gets the Thrill.

- Thunderbolt


26 points in 61 games Phil Kessel? Maybe they gel and do something...maybe they form one of the softest lines in the league.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Mar 2 @ 9:23 AM ET
I mean it can't be much worse can it?
- BINGO!

I assure you, no matter how much we think it cant get worse, Hextall will find a way.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 2 @ 9:25 AM ET
Bertuzzi to Boston wow!
MHurl
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.19.2010

Mar 2 @ 9:29 AM ET
Bertuzzi to Boston wow!
- MattStrat


Must be nice
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 2 @ 9:33 AM ET
Must be nice
- MHurl


It was nice...we used to live like this...
JLT168
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PGH, PA
Joined: 07.09.2012

Mar 2 @ 9:36 AM ET
Must be nice
- MHurl


Must be f’n nice
pozone
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 05.20.2016

Mar 2 @ 9:38 AM ET
FIRE HEXTALL FIRE HEXTALL FIRE HEXTALL
Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Altoona
Joined: 06.30.2015

Mar 2 @ 9:44 AM ET
The Bertuzzi trade makes me sick
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Mar 2 @ 9:52 AM ET
So what are our options for a new GM this off-season?
- 668710


Stan Bowman.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 2 @ 9:53 AM ET
The Bertuzzi trade makes me sick
- Brownsoldier


Haha yep. only a 1st and a 4th. Pens definitely had the assets for a Bertuzzi trade lol
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