I would say stand pat and let this season play out however it going to play out. I don't trust Hextall to fix poop and I certainly don't trust him to fix the team through free agency in the summer. Let FSG fire his ass and hopefully get someone in here that is actually good at evaluation and roster construction. I can see us losing the next 3 of 4 games.
- PittsPens

Booooooooooo

My hope is that Miller’s value is so bad due to his upcoming contract that we can somehow pull off sending a main package to Arizona for Chychrun and still have enough juice to get Miller. If we can do that while keeping Petterson and Zucker I think this team will get the spark it needs. Realistically still need another winger but at this point we’re out of cap and assets if we can even make the above work to begin with.
- Victoro311

I know a lot of rumors had it that teams weren't going to make a deal because of his contract and his attitude. This would be the dream scenario. From additional rumors/reports Hex was looking for a Winger w/ Chyrchrun so maybe a cheaper bottom six player may be obtained. I agree with you on keeping Petterson and take it a step further with even keeping POJ.

I know a lot of rumors had it that teams weren't going to make a deal because of his contract and his attitude. This would be the dream scenario. From additional rumors/reports Hex was looking for a Winger w/ Chyrchrun so maybe a cheaper bottom six player may be obtained. I agree with you on keeping Petterson and take it a step further with even keeping POJ.
- 123Kid

#MoveDumo

I know a lot of rumors had it that teams weren't going to make a deal because of his contract and his attitude. This would be the dream scenario. From additional rumors/reports Hex was looking for a Winger w/ Chyrchrun so maybe a cheaper bottom six player may be obtained. I agree with you on keeping Petterson and take it a step further with even keeping POJ.
- 123Kid

If the Pens get Chyrch, one of those guys are gone....

If the Pens get Chyrch, one of those guys are gone....
- MattStrat

It would be like the summer all over again imo. Rearranging the D core without actually improving it.

In the previous 6 seasons Church averages 56.16 games played. Most he's played in a season is 68 games...his rookie season in 2016/2017.

Glassy.

It would be like the summer all over again imo. Rearranging the D core without actually improving it.
- Feds91Stammer

I think so too.

My hope is that Miller’s value is so bad due to his upcoming contract that we can somehow pull off sending a main package to Arizona for Chychrun and still have enough juice to get Miller. If we can do that while keeping Petterson and Zucker I think this team will get the spark it needs. Realistically still need another winger but at this point we’re out of cap and assets if we can even make the above work to begin with.
- Victoro311

That other winger SHOULD be DOC. He has been playing with another gear lately, and a 3rd line of DOC-Carter-Rust or Zucker-Carter-DOC could be an effective third line.

It would be like the summer all over again imo. Rearranging the D core without actually improving it.
- Feds91Stammer

I actually like Rutta, i think the bad move was Petry.

If the Pens get Chyrch, one of those guys are gone....
- MattStrat

Yea if they aren't taking Dumo picks/prospect and Smith just forget about it.

In the previous 6 seasons Church averages 56.16 games played. Most he's played in a season is 68 games...his rookie season in 2016/2017.

Glassy.
- MattStrat

(frank) em then

That other winger SHOULD be DOC. He has been playing with another gear lately, and a 3rd line of DOC-Carter-Rust or Zucker-Carter-DOC could be an effective third line.
- j.boyd919

Agreed. He's been looking good.

I actually like Rutta, i think the bad move was Petry.
- 668710

Petry has like 10 assists in 16 games since returning....BUT...its only the last two games he started to look as good as he did before the injury and long layoff...to my eyes, anyway.

(frank) em then
- 668710

hahaha yeah Im not too hot on snagging him...espcecially when we'll probaby lose a quality LD to do so, maybe even one thats very cheap and cost controlled for years.

I actually like Rutta, i think the bad move was Petry.
- 668710

Best course of action imo was to leave the D alone.

Matheson, Pettersson, POJ, Dumo on the left

Letang, Marino, Ruh, Friedman on the right

9m in cap for Petry and Rutta vs 9.275m for Matheson and Marino doesn't justify the downgrade

In the previous 6 seasons Church averages 56.16 games played. Most he's played in a season is 68 games...his rookie season in 2016/2017.

Glassy.
- MattStrat

Sounds like a penguin if you ask me

I actually like Rutta, i think the bad move was Petry.
- 668710

If we end up getting Chychrun the Petry trade looks really bad in hindsight. I understand the logic behind the Petry trade even if I wouldn’t have personally done it but if you get Chychrun, Marino is just such a better fit in that top 4 than Petry is.

If we end up getting Chychrun the Petry trade looks really bad in hindsight. I understand the logic behind the Petry trade even if I wouldn’t have personally done it but if you get Chychrun, Marino is just such a better fit in that top 4 than Petry is.
- Victoro311

I think I would rather have Matheson than Church, Marino or Petry hahaha

That other winger SHOULD be DOC. He has been playing with another gear lately, and a 3rd line of DOC-Carter-Rust or Zucker-Carter-DOC could be an effective third line.
- j.boyd919

You think that would be ok even with Carter?

I think I would rather have Matheson than Church, Marino or Petry hahaha
- MattStrat

Chychrun has become overrated to the point that he’s now underrated. He’s very good. He’s much better than Matheson or Petry and would be a really good fit with Marino play style wise. With a reasonable contract to boot.

If we end up getting Chychrun the Petry trade looks really bad in hindsight. I understand the logic behind the Petry trade even if I wouldn’t have personally done it but if you get Chychrun, Marino is just such a better fit in that top 4 than Petry is.
- Victoro311

My hope in this working out is more in Smith than Petry. Agree though I'd rather have Marino. Don't like that we're locked in with 2 aging RHD for so long.

Chychrun has become overrated to the point that he’s now underrated. He’s very good. He’s much better than Matheson or Petry and would be a really good fit with Marino play style wise. With a reasonable contract to boot.
- Victoro311

Well then...take me to Chyrch, man. I really havent seen much of his play at all and Ive never looked into his raw stats until today...have never looked into his fancies

You think that would be ok even with Carter?
- Tojo.

Realistically? Probably not, but I just don't see a way out of Carter as 3C unless you acquire someone specifically for 3C purposes and shift Carter to wing. Just gotta hope he retires this offseason lol

I think it'd be a better line than McGinn-Carter-Kap though.

But Sully is going to give him those defensive zone draws/assignments no matter what, so I'd rather load up the wings around him.

I'd rather try to get a PPG player like Miller and push guys down the lineup. Maybe we get lucky and Zucker wants to stay so he signs a team friendly deal, who knows.

Chychrun has become overrated to the point that he’s now underrated. He’s very good. He’s much better than Matheson or Petry and would be a really good fit with Marino play style wise. With a reasonable contract to boot.
- Victoro311

What makes him better than Matheson?

The more I think about it the more I want Miller...even with my Avs loving buddies sending me this crap in a group chat haha