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Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Feb 28 @ 1:13 PM ET
Pat Gallen
@PatGallenCBS3
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18m
Chuck Fletcher saying that the Flyers are the "5th most improved team" in the NHL is THE MOST ASININE THING I've ever heard in my life. What does that even mean!?

- PLindbergh31


https://twitter.com/i/status/1630628141474381827

..reestablishing the Flyers identity and being hard to play against ...

I wish the Flyers would retire the "hard to play against" slogan that they've been pushing. Hard to play against in 2023 is puck possession and scoring goals, things that aren't a priority for the Flyers.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Feb 28 @ 1:13 PM ET
Pat Gallen
@PatGallenCBS3
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18m
Chuck Fletcher saying that the Flyers are the "5th most improved team" in the NHL is THE MOST ASININE THING I've ever heard in my life. What does that even mean!?

- PLindbergh31


It’s shocking that that actually came out if his yap. Can you imagine actually talking about progress? Someone should have asked him about his entire tenure? Is is within the top 5 most improved teams in the last 4 years? What a complete Jack ass. It’s almost like he’s taunting the fan base.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 28 @ 1:13 PM ET
Hayes is a good NHL player. Not a great one or a star but he is a solid 2 way player with some size and hockey IQ. He can slide throughout the middle 6 and would be a plus for maybe Carolina and Colorado. Fletcher would be well-served to not give him away. Hayes should be a hockey trade and the more salary retained the greater the return should be.
- mikeyo27

There it is! This is exactly what people were trying to sell me when we signed Hayes, which isn’t true.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Feb 28 @ 1:13 PM ET

The Wild had hopes of a 20-25 goal 60 point player. That didn’t happen. Realistically, he can get you 8-12 goals as a 3rd liner and 25 points. If he brought what he’s got every game, he’s not bad at $3 Mil. Heard last week that Guerin called him in and gave him a kick in the ass. Like the guy but his work ethic is all over the place.

- Minnyhock


Thank you.

Remove the two outliers of Nichuskin and Duclair and literally every player in the league making 2-3m+ per season scores around 20-30 points. That's what 3m gets you.

If $3m is overpaying for 30 points we should trade Scott Laughton yesterday, right?
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 28 @ 1:14 PM ET
The most Chuck Fletcher thing ever lol

As if going from historically terrible to just terrible is something to hang your hat on.


- Tomahawk


Good for you, that you’re able to laugh at that.

SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 28 @ 1:15 PM ET
Pat Gallen
@PatGallenCBS3
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18m
Chuck Fletcher saying that the Flyers are the "5th most improved team" in the NHL is THE MOST ASININE THING I've ever heard in my life. What does that even mean!?

- PLindbergh31

Oh my god? Is this real? That poor senile old man.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Feb 28 @ 1:15 PM ET
Pat Gallen
@PatGallenCBS3
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18m
Chuck Fletcher saying that the Flyers are the "5th most improved team" in the NHL is THE MOST ASININE THING I've ever heard in my life. What does that even mean!?

- PLindbergh31


I'm convinced that CF is taking too much acid.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 28 @ 1:15 PM ET
Ok, who?



Ok. Who?



Oh, so you don't actually have a name? Just saying whatever sounds good still? Ok. Just checking.

- mochoson


There doesn't have to be a name. The Flyers have a list of young players that would be better to give a shot to. Again, should the Flyers in their position be leaving roster spots open for young players to compete for a spot. Or taking on players like Greenway for 3M a year? Again, this is not hard.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 28 @ 1:16 PM ET
Thank you.

Remove the two outliers of Nichuskin and Duclair and literally every player in the league making 2-3m+ per season scores around 20-30 points. That's what 3m gets you.

If $3m is overpaying for 30 points we should trade Scott Laughton yesterday, right?

- mochoson


Context is everything. As if trading Scott Laughton is the same thing as trading for him.
RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Feb 28 @ 1:17 PM ET
It’s shocking that that actually came out if his yap. Can you imagine actually talking about progress? Someone should have asked him about his entire tenure? Is is within the top 5 most improved teams in the last 4 years? What a complete Jack ass. It’s almost like he’s taunting the fan base.
- landros 2


Well to be honest, people rarely put their failures on their resume. He has to crow about something regardless of how minuscule or silly to pad their pathetic resume. And also, some people will read that and say "gosh he's done a great job" because some people are so easily coaxed into a false narrative.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 28 @ 1:17 PM ET
https://twitter.com/i/status/1630628141474381827

..reestablishing the Flyers identity and being hard to play against ...

I wish the Flyers would retire the "hard to play against" slogan that they've been pushing. Hard to play against in 2023 is puck possession and scoring goals, things that aren't a priority for the Flyers.

- Flyers_01


They don't have a clue of what hard to play against is.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 28 @ 1:17 PM ET
The most Chuck Fletcher thing ever lol

As if going from historically terrible to just terrible is something to hang your hat on.


- Tomahawk


It's almost like this is all a parody, or an SNL sketch. It's hard to believe it's real. The incompetence just drips off this clown.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 28 @ 1:19 PM ET
Ok, who?
- mochoson


Reposting for your consideration.

How many 3rd liners does one organization need? Not even counting recent draft picks or vets they may lose before next season, among the Flyers and Phantoms, there is Laughton and N.Cates who can play center or wing, as well as newcomer Desnoyers. On wing there is Allison and Lycksell. Brink and Foerster might have a ceiling as 2nd liners but should probably start on the 3rd. Plus injured players Atkinson and Laczynski. That is 9 right there, without digging!
- NC Flyers Fan
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 28 @ 1:19 PM ET
Oh my god? Is this real? That poor senile old man.
- SuperSchennBros


He's 55. Has nothing to do with senile, or age and everything to do with incompetence and lack of social awareness.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Feb 28 @ 1:19 PM ET
Pat Gallen
@PatGallenCBS3
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18m
Chuck Fletcher saying that the Flyers are the "5th most improved team" in the NHL is THE MOST ASININE THING I've ever heard in my life. What does that even mean!?

- PLindbergh31


Did that delusional doofus actually say that? Well I guess since the freaking bar was so low he might be right. Yeah Chuck, we will take solace in the fact that our team has gone from the outhouse to the doghouse. The Flyers are still irrelevant under his watch and not getting better in any meaningful way. But not for Hart playing out of his mind at times this year, we’d be just as bad. Fletcher is an idiot if he thinks saying stupid things like that are going to improve public perception. The reality is you either suck or you do not suck. The Flyers suck. The reality is you are either relevant or are not relevant and we all know where the flyers are. So he got a 15 on the same test he got a 10 on last year. It’s still a miserable failing grade. I’m so done with that jackwad.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 28 @ 1:20 PM ET
It's almost like this is all a parody, or an SNL sketch. It's hard to believe it's real. The incompetence just drips off this clown.
- PLindbergh31


Gritty is the most sane thing in the organization now.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Feb 28 @ 1:20 PM ET
Thank you.

Remove the two outliers of Nichuskin and Duclair and literally every player in the league making 2-3m+ per season scores around 20-30 points. That's what 3m gets you.

If $3m is overpaying for 30 points we should trade Scott Laughton yesterday, right?

- mochoson


I imagine Greenway or Merrill would be involved if the Wild acquired JVR. Word is that SJ likes Greenway. I’d be disappointed if Guerin acquired JVR. It’s a weak move and I think the players would perceive it that way.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 28 @ 1:21 PM ET
You previous made that statement that all you read on this forum is "hUrrrr dUrr He's overpa1d N bad N zo slow d00d r u st00pid 0r wut", yet you make this statement which is absolutely false!

The Flyers for the first time since the mid 80s are set in goal, with Carter Hart and Sam Ersson. These are two young goalies who have already shown they are good enough to win with in the regular season and the playoffs! For once in goal is a strength for the Flyers, not a hole.

Second, the Flyers have a solid group of defenseman in York, Provey, Risto and Seeler. Its true the Flyers have a hole in that they don't have a true number 1 defenseman, but they have a group of solid defenseman that would be an excellent group if the Flyers were able to add that number 1 defenseman.

Thirdly, the Flyers have a solid group of middle 6 forwards which has been demonstrated this season, plus Couturier should be back next year and maybe Atkinson. Yes the Flyers have a gaping hole in that they don't have a legitimate top line, but they have pieces on the team and in their system that can come in and provide the depth that is absolutely needed to truly contend for the Cup.

Finally I think the Flyers have a very good coaching staff that will build a good foundation here. We have already seen some benefits in the development of younger players and the competitiveness of the team. That is a plus also.

So its not all doom and gloom here, but there are some glaring holes that have to be addressed. However getting a player like Greenway IMO is the opposite of what is needed to fill those holes.

- jd250

about as underwhelming as you can get.

Solid group of middle forward also underwhelming.

Do you ever look at the division and/or conference to compare the flyers to others? Now and in the future?

It is all doom and gloom as the future is bleak. They will be much closer to the bottom than the top in the next 5 years.

So Cam replaces JR production. So that is a likely wash. ex selk cant wait to see him in april playing.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 28 @ 1:21 PM ET
Speaking of development issues in this organization. To memory, the only 2 players to memory since 1999 that I felt developed to their highest potential were Simon Gagne and Claude Giroux. Am I wrong?

Jeff Carter as a sniper hit 40 plus once and never sniffed anything remotely close to it since. I felt Couturier took along to develop his offense. Laughton’s road to the NHL at all was a long one. Provorov and Konency I keep waiting for more from. Agree or disagree? Should we have gotten more out of these players?
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Feb 28 @ 1:21 PM ET
https://twitter.com/i/status/1630628141474381827

..reestablishing the Flyers identity and being hard to play against ...

I wish the Flyers would retire the "hard to play against" slogan that they've been pushing. Hard to play against in 2023 is puck possession and scoring goals, things that aren't a priority for the Flyers.

- Flyers_01


Agreed. The only thing that matters ultimately is the final score each game. Reminds me of that movie “The Rock”. “Losers are always whining about doing their best. Winners go home and @&$! The prom Queen”
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 28 @ 1:21 PM ET
Pat Gallen
@PatGallenCBS3
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18m
Chuck Fletcher saying that the Flyers are the "5th most improved team" in the NHL is THE MOST ASININE THING I've ever heard in my life. What does that even mean!?

- PLindbergh31

lol that is awesome
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 28 @ 1:22 PM ET
Gritty is the most sane thing in the organization now.
- Tomahawk


Sad but true.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 28 @ 1:22 PM ET
He's 55. Has nothing to do with senile, or age and everything to do with incompetence and lack of social awareness.
- PLindbergh31

You don’t know a joke when you read one?
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 28 @ 1:22 PM ET
Did JD250 get a new screen name
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Feb 28 @ 1:23 PM ET

In a previous reply to you, I listed the negatives to Greenway in his game. That list did not include a single stat. What I've tried to inform you of is that a team in the Flyers position of being one of the worst teams in the league. Paying a player of Greenway's caliber 3M a year for the 3rd line is a gross overpay. It's about team situation. Player contract comparables are irrelevant.

- MJL


This roster will (hopefully) look very different this time next year in terms of personnel and cap commitments. So while I technically agree with you right now, the hope is that by next fall what your saying isn't true at all.

The Flyers went from being last in the league to winning the Conference finals once. I'm not expecting such a drastic improvement by next season, but there needs to be a concerted effort to ice a better team next year. It seems hard to believe right now, but I want the Flyers every year to at least strive to be a bubble team if theyre not quite ready to "contend".

If Hayes and say one of Provorov, DeAngelo, or Sanheim are moved, no one is even going to notice Greenway's +3mil because our cap situation will be vastly improved. Your concern isn't completely falling on deaf ears. I get in general what youre saying.



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