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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 27 @ 11:56 AM ET
Would be a lot better if Holland didn't send Janmark, another prospect, and the 2nd that became Roope Hintz for 11 games of Erik Cole.
- Feds91Stammer



That's nuts...no guarantee they would of drafted Hintz but even still...its pretty nuts haha
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 27 @ 12:05 PM ET
That's nuts...no guarantee they would of drafted Hintz but even still...its pretty nuts haha
- MattStrat

Haha of course and that still isn't quite trading the 1st that becomes Vasy for Kyle (frank)ing Quincey, whom you previously lost on waivers.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 27 @ 12:09 PM ET
So RW just gonna ignore JVRs 7m cap hit?
- Feds91Stammer


If they retain 50% and the package going includes McGinn or Blueger, it can work.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 27 @ 12:10 PM ET
If they retain 50% and the package going includes McGinn or Blueger, it can work.
- jmatchett383

668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 27 @ 12:12 PM ET
If they retain 50% and the package going includes McGinn or Blueger, it can work.
- jmatchett383

Yea it CAN work. I guess if Hextall really wants him he obviously has ties to Philly
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Feb 27 @ 12:27 PM ET
If they retain 50% and the package going includes McGinn or Blueger, it can work.
- jmatchett383


Idk if it would work with Hex and Burke trying for a Lucic - Carter - Reaves 4th line just to make Grinder lose his mind during the deadline.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 27 @ 12:37 PM ET

- Feds91Stammer


Because Hextall
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 27 @ 12:45 PM ET
Idk if it would work with Hex and Burke trying for a Lucic - Carter - Reaves 4th line just to make Grinder lose his mind during the deadline.
- 123Kid

Greenway - Carter - Reaves 3rd line you mean.

4th Line would be

Archibald, Poehling, and Craig Adams

with McGinn taking Zuckers spot in the top 6
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Feb 27 @ 1:13 PM ET
Idk if it would work with Hex and Burke trying for a Lucic - Carter - Reaves 4th line just to make Grinder lose his mind during the deadline.
- 123Kid

Roberts-Christianson-BLG.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 27 @ 1:47 PM ET
McCabe to TOR....Hex is running out of targets LOL.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 27 @ 2:01 PM ET
McCabe to TOR....Hex is running out of targets LOL.
- sammy87



When I first saw that he and Lafferty fetched a first overall pick, plus other picks and players, I thought that might be a bit much.....but as I looked into it more I discovered that the Hawks are eating half of McCabe's cap hit for the next few years...so they get him for a 2 mill cap hit a year for more years, thats pretty good.

EDIT: McCabe is signed for only one more season, not a few....still pretty good trade though, I think.

EDIT2: it is actually two more seasons for McCabe after this one haha
Rocco115Pitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.05.2014

Feb 27 @ 2:16 PM ET
When I first saw that he and Lafferty fetched a first overall pick, plus other picks and players, I thought that might be a bit much.....but as I looked into it more I discovered that the Hawks are eating half of McCabe's cap hit for the next few years...so they get him for a 2 mill cap hit a year for more years, thats pretty good.

EDIT: McCabe is signed for only one more season, not a few....still pretty good trade though, I think.

EDIT2: it is actually two more seasons for McCabe after this one haha

- MattStrat



It's starting to feel a little like Chychrun might be the target. Don't know why, but seeing the likes of Nino and McCabe getting scooped, there aren't a lot of impactful options left. Wondering if we can swoon AZ into giving us Chychrun, Schmultz, and Vejmelka?
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Feb 27 @ 2:27 PM ET
It's starting to feel a little like Chychrun might be the target. Don't know why, but seeing the likes of Nino and McCabe getting scooped, there aren't a lot of impactful options left. Wondering if we can swoon AZ into giving us Chychrun, Schmultz, and Vejmelka?
- Rocco115Pitt


He needs to punt and trade Dumo and Zucker. It wouldn't be a bad idea to trade Dumo and use the pick/prospect in an attempt for a Chychrun deal.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Feb 27 @ 2:27 PM ET
It's starting to feel a little like Chychrun might be the target. Don't know why, but seeing the likes of Nino and McCabe getting scooped, there aren't a lot of impactful options left. Wondering if we can swoon AZ into giving us Chychrun, Schmultz, and Vejmelka?
- Rocco115Pitt

I think Hextall is following a similar style to last year with Rakell. He waited it out despite ANA asking for a lot for him and numerous teams interested. Most other teams moved on and that left the Penguins to scoop up Rakell.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 27 @ 2:31 PM ET
I think Hextall is following a similar style to last year with Rakell. He waited it out despite ANA asking for a lot for him and numerous teams interested. Most other teams moved on and that left the Penguins to scoop up Rakell.
- SuperHenderson13


I like the idea of Churchyn...hes young and cheap for a few more years then Letang will be done.

If they could move out a LD and promote Smith all hte better.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 27 @ 2:33 PM ET
It's starting to feel a little like Chychrun might be the target. Don't know why, but seeing the likes of Nino and McCabe getting scooped, there aren't a lot of impactful options left. Wondering if we can swoon AZ into giving us Chychrun, Schmultz, and Vejmelka?
- Rocco115Pitt


I think those three would be great adds....but that would probably take multiple 1sts...also...that would be 13.175 mill cap hit going the Pens way.....who goes their way to make it work?

Maybe Dumo because he's off the books next season...though I really dont think Hex has a desire to trade him...so thats 4.1 mill....another 9 mill to go.....McGinn are Heinen is another 3.75, i could see maybe Heinen because he's UFA...but McGinn is 2.75 for another few seasons, most teams wont want him like that.

Now that Ive thought about Churchrun going to the Pens it kind of scares me it might be Petts headed out for him....they better not f'n do that.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 27 @ 2:33 PM ET
It's starting to feel a little like Chychrun might be the target. Don't know why, but seeing the likes of Nino and McCabe getting scooped, there aren't a lot of impactful options left. Wondering if we can swoon AZ into giving us Chychrun, Schmultz, and Vejmelka?
- Rocco115Pitt

A big blockbuster with Zona would be good. They have all the things we want, Goalie, defenseman and bottom 6 guys.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
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Feb 27 @ 2:34 PM ET
I like the idea of Churchyn...hes young and cheap for a few more years then Letang will be done.

If they could move out a LD and promote Smith all hte better.

- sammy87



Problem with that is Church is a LD...if they trade out a LD and bring him in Smith still isn't coming up.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 27 @ 2:34 PM ET
I think those three would be great adds....but that would probably take multiple 1sts...also...that would be 13.175 mill cap hit going the Pens way.....who goes their way to make it work?

Maybe Dumo because he's off the books next season...though I really dont think Hex has a desire to trade him...so thats 4.1 mill....another 9 mill to go.....McGinn are Heinen is another 3.75, i could see maybe Heinen because he's UFA...but McGinn is 2.75 for another few seasons, most teams wont want him like that.

Now that Ive thought about Churchrun going to the Pens it kind of scares me it might be Petts headed out for him....they better not f'n do that.

- MattStrat

Dumo, Mcginn, Blueger, Heinen and Jarry
Rocco115Pitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.05.2014

Feb 27 @ 2:40 PM ET
Dumo, Mcginn, Blueger, Heinen and Jarry
- 668710


That's actually a variation of what I was thinking. Instead of Jarry using a combination of 1sts and 2nds with Pickering. It would still be tight against the cap, but could work if you could get 1-2 mil in retention and sending Friedman down.
Rocco115Pitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.05.2014

Feb 27 @ 2:43 PM ET
Problem with that is Church is a LD...if they trade out a LD and bring him in Smith still isn't coming up.
- MattStrat


I'd hate to see Petts go, but if he could be moved for picks or other bottom 6 help, ala Domi, Smith could take over those minutes. That's if Dumo is moved for another LD
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 27 @ 2:46 PM ET
Dumo, Mcginn, Blueger, Heinen and Jarry
- 668710


Yeah thats around 13.55 mill ...and besides Jarry a bunch of underperforming almost replacement level spare parts....all of them off the books this summer., besides McGinn..but I really think youre looking at 4 or 5 picks going their way to do this and probably two 1sts amongst them.

Also their goalie is cheap, cost controlled for a few more seasons and good..they get Jarry wanting a big raise...they are a cap floor team

EDIT: I guess maybe they could flip Jarry again for prospects and picks...roll with Ingram. Still though, awful lot of moving parts and I dont think Hex has blockbuster trade in his DNA hahaha
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 27 @ 2:46 PM ET
I'd hate to see Petts go, but if he could be moved for picks or other bottom 6 help, ala Domi, Smith could take over those minutes. That's if Dumo is moved for another LD
- Rocco115Pitt


Petts is the Pens bets defender....like at actual defense...im in no rush to ship him out. I dont think Churchrun is much, if any, better than him and is also a glassman oft injured.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 27 @ 2:49 PM ET
That's actually a variation of what I was thinking. Instead of Jarry using a combination of 1sts and 2nds with Pickering. It would still be tight against the cap, but could work if you could get 1-2 mil in retention and sending Friedman down.
- Rocco115Pitt

Desmith would have to go, I may play around on cap friendly tonight
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 27 @ 2:50 PM ET
Yeah thats around 13.55 mill ...and besides Jarry a bunch of underperforming almost replacement level spare parts....all of them off the books this summer., bnesides McGinn..but I really think youre looking at 4 or 5 picks going their way to do this and probably two 1sts amongst them.

Also their goalie is cheap, cost controlled for a few more seasons and good..they get Jarry wanting a big raise...they are a cap floor team

EDIT: I guess maybe they could flip Jarry again for prospects and picks...roll with Ingram. Still though, awful lot of moving parts and I dont think Hex has blockbuster trade in his DNA hahaha

- MattStrat

Yea (frank) zona don't care what they do, they just accept our poop and that's final lol
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