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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 1 @ 5:20 PM ET
Alright so you would rather pay for the poopty player, who cares.
- manvanfan

Where are your facts?
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Mar 1 @ 5:20 PM ET
Yep 100% better
- carsonagenic


Unless they draft another Oli Juoveli bust.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Mar 1 @ 5:20 PM ET
$0

Next years cap space with players to be signed.

- manvanfan


If they dump Boeser for a first or Second all could be moot.... guess wait and see.... I would have preferred this move after we tank the season though
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 1 @ 5:22 PM ET
Bo/2nd
for
Raty/Beauvillier/Hronek/4th
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Mar 1 @ 5:23 PM ET
I'm really hoping Alvin has a few other moves up his sleeve.
The cash allotted to wingers and that backend ain't sustainable.

If this was done in a vacuum and the plan is summer buy-outs,....that's atrocious lol.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Mar 1 @ 5:23 PM ET
I don’t mind the Hronek acquisition. The Canucks record of drafting and development is soooo poopty at least Hronek is a NHLer. Can’t say that for anything after the top 10 this year. I doubt our 1st from last year even becomes a fulltime NHL player. I don’t trust this organization with Picks outside of the top 10. And even then we pick Virtanens and Joulevi’s half the time.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Mar 1 @ 5:23 PM ET
If they dump Boeser for a first or Second all could be moot.... guess wait and see.... I would have preferred this move after we tank the season though

- SMP8719

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 1 @ 5:24 PM ET
1sts for D

Lundkvist
Sandin
Gavrikov (UFA)
Hronek
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Mar 1 @ 5:25 PM ET
Bo/2nd
for
Raty/Beauvillier/Hronek/4th

- Nighthawk



That’s not bad in the scheme of things.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 1 @ 5:25 PM ET
I don’t mind the Hronek acquisition. The Canucks record of drafting and development is soooo poopty at least Hronek is a NHLer. Can’t say that for anything after the top 10 this year. I doubt our 1st from last year even becomes a fulltime NHL player. I don’t trust this organization with Picks outside of the top 10. And even then we pick Virtanens and Joulevi’s half the time.
- I-own_da-Northwest

A team 6th from the bottom making win now moves still

Also with no cap space again next season to start with Something they talked about doing for a year now.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Mar 1 @ 5:26 PM ET
Unless they draft another Oli Juoveli bust.
- dbot

I want a rebuild, and we actually had an extra 1st rounder for the first time in a long time. As well as the potential to add more picks.
Except this team just couldn't handle having that kind of change in their pocket and went kid in a candy store instead.
I hope NYI doesn't give up their pick and it is top5 next year now...
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Mar 1 @ 5:26 PM ET
A team 6th from the bottom making win now moves still
- manvanfan


This is not a win now move.
This is a safe bet on a player with some term for a lottery ticket.
It's consistent with their approach of late.


SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Mar 1 @ 5:27 PM ET

- dbot


i was laughing as I typed that too


Well a second is probably attainable.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Mar 1 @ 5:27 PM ET
1sts for D

Lundkvist
Sandin
Gavrikov (UFA)
Hronek

- Nighthawk


Hronek could be the best of that list too.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Mar 1 @ 5:27 PM ET
i was laughing as I typed that too


Well a second is probably attainable.

- SMP8719


I'd be happy with a 2nd and a prospect.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Mar 1 @ 5:28 PM ET
Canucks twitter is having a meltdown
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Mar 1 @ 5:28 PM ET
A team 6th from the bottom making win now moves still

Also with no cap space again next season to start with Something they talked about doing for a year now.

- manvanfan



It’s not win now. Paying a top 10 pick+ for Chychrun would be a win now move. Our organization is well below average at drafting. Would you rather us piss away another pick on a Brendan Gaunce or Nick Jensen of Patrick white?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 1 @ 5:29 PM ET
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 1 @ 5:29 PM ET
This is not a win now move.
This is a safe bet on a player with some term for a lottery ticket.
It's consistent with their approach of late.

- dbot

Does this player make the team better when he gets here? Sure does.

Does this player make the team better next season? Yes he does.

Win now.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 1 @ 5:31 PM ET
This is not a win now move.
This is a safe bet on a player with some term for a lottery ticket.
It's consistent with their approach of late.

- dbot

I don’t hate it at all, providing it’s the Islanders pick…LOL! A 25 year old right shot dman fits perfectly in a five year window for Pettersson, Hughes and the player they pick 1-6th overall.

I suspect there’s more coming though, trades…
claygolf83
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 02.06.2010

Mar 1 @ 5:32 PM ET
We finally have our right side D man to play with Quinn. Like the player, hate the cost. Per Pagnotta Vancouver has several irons in the fire so lets hope we can move out some money and regain some picks.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 1 @ 5:32 PM ET
One season left before he's looking for a probable significant raise.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Mar 1 @ 5:32 PM ET
Does this player make the team better when he gets here? Sure does.

Does this player make the team better next season? Yes he does.

Win now.

- manvanfan


So we agree it's a net positive move that improves the team.
Noted.
That still doesn't mean they're trying to 'win now' with the trade.

carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Mar 1 @ 5:32 PM ET
It’s not win now. Paying a top 10 pick+ for Chychrun would be a win now move. Our organization is well below average at drafting. Would you rather us piss away another pick on a Brendan Gaunce or Nick Jensen of Patrick white?
- I-own_da-Northwest

So just abandon the draft model winning teams use for depth, talent , and cap space out of fear?
This team is a mess and they are destroying the fanbase along with it.
Fans are now afraid of drafting, regardless of the GM of this team...
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 1 @ 5:32 PM ET
It’s not win now. Paying a top 10 pick+ for Chychrun would be a win now move. Our organization is well below average at drafting. Would you rather us piss away another pick on a Brendan Gaunce or Nick Jensen of Patrick white?
- I-own_da-Northwest

Nobody is paying a top 10 pick for Chychrun if you hadn't noticed.

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