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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 27 @ 5:25 PM ET
2012 draft Pelech 3rd round
We took Mallet in the 2nd.
TB took Koekkoek then Vasi 19oa
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 27 @ 5:26 PM ET
Another winger? Trade down instead but stay in the top 8-10.
- Nighthawk

How many 80 point wingers do we have? Yes another winger, we need elite skill to compete. Mackinnon has Rantanen, Berg has marchand, stamkos has kuch see the pattern? We dont have an elite forward outside of EP.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 27 @ 5:27 PM ET
You're optimistic that they aren't going to go on a 10 game heater to finish the season and pick 12 to 14?
- Pres.cup

No I’m pessimistic they’ll tread water & pick 8th or better.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Feb 27 @ 5:29 PM ET
The math isn’t exact. Guaranteed contracts hinder prospects opportunity. Tunnel vision & bias further hinder opportunity whereas prospects will get pigeon holed & buried in the minors through their prime years. Not all teams develop well. Retreading vets in the bottom 6 on the cheap further exacerbates opportunity.
- Nighthawk



Well exactly. Canucks are actually horrible at developing if it’s not a goalie. That’s why I’m not against Canucks drafting bpa 100% of the time. Because if they draft for a need usually there’s development required, which sadly this organization isn’t capable of.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 27 @ 5:30 PM ET
How many 80 point wingers do we have? Yes another winger, we need elite skill to compete.
- neem55

This cannot be further from the truth. Keep the biscuit outta the basket.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Feb 27 @ 5:30 PM ET
Yes it’s strange we picked a winger. I cannot see the reasoning behind it either. BPA? Not my fave drafting strat that so many like to prefer.

On the abundance of wingers I’m of 2 minds on that. Acquiring the best assets & better internal competition it’ll provide. 2nd there will be a winger(s) traded sooner or later.

Team speed has to improve & Beau adds that along with his production. Pod will be expected to develop & be more of a power winger 3rd wheel. On Hog I think he’s a tweener that’ll be moved. Brock is a goner & only a matter of time. Garland I like & looks to be better utilized now.

This draft has to be a homerun there is no room for error. More trades are needed to keep on redesigning the roster is imperative. The D has to be the major focus. Cap management goes without saying & needs more flexibility. I’d like 1 key D added as in UFA Gavrikov if cost makes sense.

- Nighthawk


The hope is they draft a top center and then just go with D. However, what’s on the table usually is the way things unfold. You can slide the BPA a few players up and down but it’s dangerous to reach based on position.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 27 @ 5:32 PM ET
How many 80 point wingers do we have? Yes another winger, we need elite skill to compete. Mackinnon has Rantanen, Berg has marchand, stamkos has kuch see the pattern? We dont have an elite forward outside of EP.
- neem55

Don’t worry cuz a F will be our 1st pick unless a reach or trade down happens. My money is on it’s a C.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Feb 27 @ 5:34 PM ET
I think with the first pick they should take the Russian who will most likely be still on the table and then every pick draft the best D
- VANTEL


Right shot D and C. Best players that fill the gaping holes in the depth chart and prospect pool....or dress an entire lineup of left handed shots. Which is kinda where things are heading at the moment.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 27 @ 5:36 PM ET
The timing of Demko coming off LTIR, audition perhaps?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 27 @ 5:37 PM ET
Right shot D and C. Best players that fill the gaping holes in the depth chart and prospect pool....or dress an entire lineup of left handed shots. Which is kinda where things are heading at the moment.
- Load Management


Hopefully they come up with some kind of plan and stick with it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 27 @ 5:43 PM ET
Same draft, after Liquormaki...


https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=240695

- VanHockeyGuy


Yup
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 27 @ 5:45 PM ET
Another winger? Trade down instead but stay in the top 8-10.
- Nighthawk


Or use that second first to trade up
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 27 @ 5:48 PM ET
Yup
- VANTEL


They have no business going BPA with glaring holes at C&D
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 27 @ 5:49 PM ET
Earlier I picked a Stars/Canes final.

Still going with Dallas but the Av’s are fully on my radar. I have the Canes still beating the WC but after that less than certain. The East Arms Race has changed all of that. They don’t make a significant F add & they might make the conference final at best.

New guess is Dallas/TB

Av’s are closing fast & tbh it’s a toss up but sticking with my original West rep. TB with Vasi & a gut feeling have supplanted the Canes.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 27 @ 5:53 PM ET
Right shot D and C. Best players that fill the gaping holes in the depth chart and prospect pool....or dress an entire lineup of left handed shots. Which is kinda where things are heading at the moment.
- Load Management

Guessing it goes C RHD D I hope. Agree prospect depth is in order.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 27 @ 5:54 PM ET
The timing of Demko coming off LTIR, audition perhaps?
- VanHockeyGuy

Ballsy if true & would really be precedent setting in the FA era. He might have a jammer if it happens 🤪
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 27 @ 5:56 PM ET
Right shot D and C. Best players that fill the gaping holes in the depth chart and prospect pool....or dress an entire lineup of left handed shots. Which is kinda where things are heading at the moment.
- Load Management


Pretty much.

We do need left D also but that would be third on the list. Look at you being a goalie and all and not even suggesting a G.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 27 @ 5:56 PM ET
NEWS!


Vancouver Canucks
@Canucks
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GM Patrik Allvin announced today that the Vancouver Canucks have acquired F Josh Bloom from the Buffalo Sabres in exchange for D Riley Stillman.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 27 @ 5:58 PM ET
NEWS!


Vancouver Canucks
@Canucks
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GM Patrik Allvin announced today that the Vancouver Canucks have acquired F Josh Bloom from the Buffalo Sabres in exchange for D Riley Stillman.

- VanHockeyGuy


Just happy we didn't give up another second.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 27 @ 5:59 PM ET
NEWS!


Vancouver Canucks
@Canucks
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GM Patrik Allvin announced today that the Vancouver Canucks have acquired F Josh Bloom from the Buffalo Sabres in exchange for D Riley Stillman.

- VanHockeyGuy


whom?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 27 @ 5:59 PM ET
Or use that second first to trade up
- VANTEL

I guess that depends on where that NYI 1st ends up & the sweetener needed. I’ve always said to have draft options in the back pocket but didn’t consider that one. That move would be with Reinbacher in mind if they feel he won’t fall to them. There a few other prospects that could be targeted dependent on what other trades happen before then. Moore & Danielson comes to mind.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 27 @ 6:00 PM ET
Yup, Add F Josh Bloom, Trade D Riley Stillman as the team is already deep at defence. Cap dump?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 27 @ 6:01 PM ET
They have no business going BPA with glaring holes at C&D
- VanHockeyGuy

Our own 1st picking a C I wouldn’t consider a reach. D I’m not seeing it but lots can happen up until draft day.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 27 @ 6:02 PM ET
Our own 1st picking a C I wouldn’t consider a reach. D I’m not seeing it but lots can happen up until draft day.
- Nighthawk


Things are all good we got Josh Bloom!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 27 @ 6:02 PM ET
NEWS!


Vancouver Canucks
@Canucks
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1m
GM Patrik Allvin announced today that the Vancouver Canucks have acquired F Josh Bloom from the Buffalo Sabres in exchange for D Riley Stillman.

- VanHockeyGuy

Luv it lol 👍
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