Yeah full NMC, can't waive or trade without him giving the ok.

You could scratch him every game and that could make him go somewhere
- abcpens10

They should ask him to accept waivers and tell him to not report to WB. Just keep him in the press box. He basically got a 6 million dollar golden parachute from the Penguins and he's one of the most substantial reasons they suck.

then sign him to a 5 year extension


oh....
When the Pens fire Hextall, we'll send over Fletcher next.
- rayc16

Amazing how former members of each respective organizations keep wrecking the other team.

Washington looks to be doing exactly what I'm saying we should be... trading their existing players, getting futures, and then using those futures to trade for a retooling of the roster. That is the only route that can make us competitive for next season.

-Zucker
-Blueger
-Dumo

Would you get a ton for them? Probably not anything significant like what Washington got, though Zucker maybe could get something.

Talk about kicking us when we're down lol. I think we're paying that bum 2 mil this year.
- madmike71

Oh crap, I only mentioned it since Ryan Wilson is like Spector is for the Oilers. No matter what the article is/was about, it would cycle to "This is Jack Johnson's fault!" or in the Marc Spector case, he just hates on Puljujarvi 24/7
I didn't realize he was a buyout, I assumed standard UFA signing with the Hawks. Doh

Wow Hextall does suck, I totally forgot we were able to dress "everyone" because Blueger was on IR at the beginning of the year.

Oh crap, I only mentioned it since Ryan Wilson is like Spector is for the Oilers. No matter what the article is/was about, it would cycle to "This is Jack Johnson's fault!" or in the Marc Spector case, he just hates on Puljujarvi 24/7
I didn't realize he was a buyout, I assumed standard UFA signing with the Hawks. Doh
- ChonDerry

Ha ha...No problem. We have 3 more years at 900k for JJ. It's pretty comical actually. Rutherford did that and Hextall follows it up with 3 "hold my beer" contracts this off season. You almost have to laugh about it.

Would Kaponen + Dumoulin + 1st 2023 to CHI for McCabe + Johnson (both at 50% retained = $4.5M (=$2+2.5) vs 3.2+4.1=just under $3M freed cap space to bring up Rutta and have a bit more wiggle room) work?

Would Kaponen + Dumoulin + 1st 2023 to CHI for McCabe + Johnson (both at 50% retained = $4.5M (=$2+2.5) vs 3.2+4.1=just under $3M freed cap space to bring up Rutta and have a bit more wiggle room) work?
- mventres

Damn you want JJ back

Would Kaponen + Dumoulin + 1st 2023 to CHI for McCabe + Johnson (both at 50% retained = $4.5M (=$2+2.5) vs 3.2+4.1=just under $3M freed cap space to bring up Rutta and have a bit more wiggle room) work?
- mventres

Per Capfriendly the Pens currently only have 18k in Cap space....so it seems to me that no, that couldn't work.

EDIT: sorry, I read that all wrong...it might work....but is Hex pulling something like that off? only Johnson he's pulling off is his own

Damn you want JJ back
- Feds91Stammer

hahah you know the Johnson he meant

Damn you want JJ back
- Feds91Stammer

Well, McCabe is an upgrade on Dumo, and Johnson isn't any worse than Kapanen...if we can get them at a $2.8M cheaper rate than we're paying Dumo + Kap - and give cap space to bring Rutta back, then may be worth it...

hahah you know the Johnson he meant
- MattStrat

lol, yeah tyler

hahah you know the Johnson he meant
- MattStrat

Reese?

Per Capfriendly the Pens currently only have 18k in Cap space....so it seems to me that no, that couldn't work.

EDIT: sorry, I read that all wrong...it might work....but is Hex pulling something like that off? only Johnson he's pulling off is his own
- MattStrat

lol

Well, McCabe is an upgrade on Dumo, and Johnson isn't any worse than Kapanen...if we can get them at a $2.8M cheaper rate than we're paying Dumo + Kap - and give cap space to bring Rutta back, then may be worth it...
- mventres

Oh there is about a 0% chance they retain on either of those players let alone both.

Oh there is about a 0% chance they retain on both those players let alone both.
- Feds91Stammer

Was putting it out there, as they basically get a 1st rounder to do so and can trade Kap/Dumo for more assets too...

Was putting it out there, as they basically get a 1st rounder to do so and can trade Kap/Dumo for more assets too...
- mventres

Teams rarely retain on players with term

Was putting it out there, as they basically get a 1st rounder to do so and can trade Kap/Dumo for more assets too...
- mventres

It's not like CHI will use the cap space in the next couple of years anyway...

Who's had more success? Certainly not the unqualified retread known as Ron Hextall.

More realistic would be Dumo, Kap, and a pick for McCabe and Domi

It's not like CHI will use the cap space in the next couple of years anyway...
- mventres

I'd prefer connor murphy slightly, but he has 3 years left vs mccabe's two. Both have similar style and injury risks...

It's not like CHI will use the cap space in the next couple of years anyway...
- mventres

They would want those retained slots for next years deadline. You would have to make a gross overpay to get them to retain long term imo

More realistic would be Dumo, Kap, and a pick for McCabe and Domi
- Feds91Stammer

Yeah, I thought about that -- and from PIT side, would prefer it. But, I think CHI wants to resign Domi. Either way, I think it would take more than a 1st to make that work on the pick side - especially as some retained salary would be needed on CHI so PIT can bring Rutta ($2.75M) back.

They would want those retained slots for next years deadline. You would have to make a gross overpay to get them to retain long term imo
- Feds91Stammer

I think a 1st is gross overpay, lol. PIT will be likely a 15-20 pick in a strong draft and CHI doesn't really need those two guys -- and separately they don't get a 1st, or without retained salary. CHI will have a HUGE amount of cap space in next couple of years...

Yeah, I thought about that -- and from PIT side, would prefer it. But, I think CHI wants to resign Domi. Either way, I think it would take more than a 1st to make that work on the pick side - especially as some retained salary would be needed on CHI so PIT can bring Rutta ($2.75M) back.
- mventres

Not sure why Domi would re-sign in Chicago