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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 23 @ 9:15 AM ET
Folks remember this about Chychrun, they have a " Verbal Agreement" to trade him to a contender. Things are very quite on the trade front with Adams and CO. as of now I was told last night. I don't know if that's good or bad also, nothing more on the Blues D men as of now either. You have to wonder.
- SABRES 89

Now that you see Samuelsson Power can play together. Chychrun makes sense. Put him with Dahlin would give you a pretty strong Top 4
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:25 AM ET
Now that you see Samuelsson Power can play together. Chychrun makes sense. Put him with Dahlin would give you a pretty strong Top 4
- Buff36


Dahlin - 10
Power - 8
Chychrun - 8
Sammy - 4.5

Backfill your last 2 with vet minimum and/or rookie contracts.

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Feb 23 @ 9:26 AM ET
Now that you see Samuelsson Power can play together. Chychrun makes sense. Put him with Dahlin would give you a pretty strong Top 4
- Buff36


Sounds more like this team is better than they expected, but they aren't willing to change adjust their long term plan.

I'll be fine with that, if they follow through and flip VO/Mitts for D. More questions if they triple down on Mitts, Joker, Bryson.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 23 @ 9:31 AM ET
Sounds more like this team is better than they expected, but they aren't willing to change adjust their long term plan.

I'll be fine with that, if they follow through and flip VO/Mitts for D. More questions if they triple down on Mitts, Joker, Bryson.

- Lunaion

That's it, things change and you need to be able to alter your plans and it doesn't seem like they were ready for that.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 23 @ 9:36 AM ET
That's it, things change and you need to be able to alter your plans and it doesn't seem like they were ready for that.
- Buff36

team needed a boost before the all star break

probably too little too late now


probably become sellers by monday
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 23 @ 9:41 AM ET
team needed a boost before the all star break

probably too little too late now


probably become sellers by monday

- homiedclown

Hope not homie!! Funny I would have taken Zaitsev. Better than any of are bottom 3
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Feb 23 @ 9:44 AM ET
That's it, things change and you need to be able to alter your plans and it doesn't seem like they were ready for that.
- Buff36


That's where the horrible irony kicks in, Tage turning into Tage means they never needed to tear down in the first place. All the deals getting kicked around are near reversals of what they already did, but worse value.

Losing Ullmark, Montour, and Sam have given the current roster absolutely nothing and they are very similar to the players they are interested in now.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:48 AM ET
This is cringe. Just stop the AZ experiment.

https://twitter.com/dream...&t=-ysG_4SuGt7J9gfQw6rVSg
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 23 @ 9:54 AM ET
That's where the horrible irony kicks in, Tage turning into Tage means they never needed to tear down in the first place. All the deals getting kicked around are near reversals of what they already did, but worse value.

Losing Ullmark, Montour, and Sam have given the current roster absolutely nothing and they are very similar to the players they are interested in now.

- Lunaion

Pretty spot on
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 23 @ 9:56 AM ET
This is cringe. Just stop the AZ experiment.

https://twitter.com/dream...&t=-ysG_4SuGt7J9gfQw6rVSg

- ImThatGuy


Kansas City, Houston or Saskatoon?

The NHL finally has alignment where every team in the Eastern Conference team is in the Eastern time zone, while every team that isn't, is in the West. Toronto's not getting that 2nd team, not by relocation anyway.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 23 @ 9:57 AM ET
Kansas City, Houston or Saskatoon?
- buffalofan19

atanta or houston
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 23 @ 9:58 AM ET
atanta or houston
- homiedclown


See above. Atlanta won't happen for the same reason Toronto won't.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 23 @ 9:59 AM ET
Kansas City, Houston or Saskatoon?

The NHL finally has alignment where every team in the Eastern Conference team is in the Eastern time zone, while every team that isn't, is in the West. Toronto's not getting that 2nd team, not by relocation anyway.

- buffalofan19


Problem is take them away then they become the largest market without an nhl team so its going in circles. I dont think he ever moves them

im corrected houston is the largest 4th largest city phoenix is 5th
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 23 @ 9:59 AM ET
See above. Atlanta won't happen for the same reason Toronto won't.
- buffalofan19

its the market sizes
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 23 @ 10:05 AM ET
See above. Atlanta won't happen for the same reason Toronto won't.
- buffalofan19

I agree but I think atlanta will get one of the next 2 teams, even if that means the sens or sabres move/get sold
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 23 @ 10:06 AM ET
Problem is take them away then they become the largest market without an nhl team so its going in circles. I dont think he ever moves them

im corrected houston is the largest 4th largest city phoenix is 5th

- hubie


By TV market, Houston is bigger than Phoenix. If the Coyotes get moved, they're staying out West.

https://methodshop.com/ni...n-dma-rankings-full-list/

The bottom line is that in order for expansion/relocation to work in the NHL, the team has to be really good, really fast. Nobody wants to watch the new local team get their asses kicked night in and night out.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 23 @ 10:07 AM ET
I agree but I think atlanta will get one of the next 2 teams, even if that means the sens or sabres move/get sold
- homiedclown



why in the world do you think we would get sold?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 23 @ 10:11 AM ET
why in the world do you think we would get sold?
- hubie

Kim's health
new hire of John Roth to run it like a business

lease ends in 2 years and nothing on arena upgrades

it would be sold for much more than purchased



buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 23 @ 10:12 AM ET
Kim's health
new hire of John Roth to run it like a business

lease ends in 2 years and nothing on arena upgrades

it would be sold for much more than purchased

- homiedclown


I read somewhere that Bettman said something along the lines of the owners not approving a sale for less than $750 million. If you wanted to move them, you'd be paying close to $1 billion total after the relocation fee. The Sabres are still not worth anywhere close to that, not in this market. No NHL team outside of Toronto or New York City is worth that.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 23 @ 10:13 AM ET
By TV market, Houston is bigger than Phoenix.

https://methodshop.com/ni...n-dma-rankings-full-list/

The bottom line is that in order for expansion/relocation to work in the NHL, the team has to be really good, really fast. Nobody wants to watch the new local team get their asses kicked night in and night out.

- buffalofan19


i said im corrected... my issue is all larger markets are even more non hockey market. I dont seel them going to austin el pas etc tx..... San Diego/ Jacksonville blah not gonna happen

Indy/Portland,,,,,, maybe but prob not

With work i see a ton of transplants going to Boise and Albuquerque. Boise would have a few city centers to draw from and would be an instant rivalry with seattle as make a nice pod of Sea,Van,CGY,EDM,SJ Boise division

Albuquerque which reminds me a lot of buffalo when im there. Vegas,ABQ,PHX,COL,LA SJ
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 23 @ 10:14 AM ET
Kim's health
new hire of John Roth to run it like a business

lease ends in 2 years and nothing on arena upgrades

it would be sold for much more than purchased

- homiedclown


The outrage would be immense and BEttman knows how many eyeballs our fans are to his ratings.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 23 @ 10:15 AM ET
i said im corrected... my issue is all larger markets are even more non hockey market. I dont seel them going to austin el pas etc tx..... San Diego/ Jacksonville blah not gonna happen

Indy/Portland,,,,,, maybe but prob not

With work i see a ton of transplants going to Boise and Albuquerque. Boise would have a few city centers to draw from and would be an instant rivalry with seattle as make a nice pod of Sea,Van,CGY,EDM,SJ Boise division

Albuquerque which reminds me a lot of buffalo when im there. Vegas,ABQ,PHX,COL,LA SJ

- hubie


The reason I bring up Kansas City is that already they have an new(ish) arena ready to go.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 23 @ 10:19 AM ET
The reason I bring up Kansas City is that already they have an new(ish) arena ready to go.
- buffalofan19

My issue is no NHL has survived in these smaller markets with an nba team
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 23 @ 10:19 AM ET
The outrage would be immense and BEttman knows how many eyeballs our fans are to his ratings.
- hubie


We have to take TV ratings with a massive grain of salt. It doesn’t tell the whole story.

IE)

12% in Buffalo is 132,000
2% in LA is 360,000

I don’t think Buffalo ever moves because we are a “hockey market”

But TV ratings to show popularity is a big miss from me and will continue to be.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 23 @ 10:21 AM ET
My issue is no NHL has survived in these smaller markets with an nba team
- hubie


Exactly, and Kansas City doesn't have one.
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