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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 16 @ 5:16 PM ET
If he's a 7th defenseman there's at least a half a dozen of them every year in free agency. Take the pick and move on if he's not a core piece.
- Aaron_85

Would love to hear some of these folks comments on Seeler last year. He’s played well, get rid of him if it’s a 5th or better.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Season Ticket Holder
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Feb 16 @ 5:25 PM ET
Canucks and Blues selling. Why aren't we getting any trade buzz
- 2Real

No buzz in nomansland. Can you fathom this team getting even more boring to watch after nothing big happens on March 3, 3pm ET.❓️
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 16 @ 5:29 PM ET
If he's a 7th defenseman there's at least a half a dozen of them every year in free agency. Take the pick and move on if he's not a core piece.
- Aaron_85


I don't consider a replacement just any warm body. I consider a replacement the same value of player for the same money. Again, for the right price, I would move him. I wouldn't just trade him to trade him. Seeler is the kind of player that a team that is rebuilding should keep unless they get a good offer.
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Feb 16 @ 5:29 PM ET
He shouldn't block any young prospects. He's a really good fit for a 7th defenseman and a fill in in case any young player's falter.
There are other players who are blocking younger players.

- MJL


Unfortunately we can't move those other defenceman that are blocking them because of their terrible anchor contracts.

I'd rather keep Seeler instead of having Risto & Angelo but nobody is going to take them. It makes sense to aquire a 3rd or 4th in a deep draft than keep Seeler for one more season playing him as a 7th D. Maybe they package the pick they get from Seeler with something else to aquire a greater asset.

Provorov
Angelo
Sanheim
York
Risto
Seeler
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 16 @ 5:50 PM ET
Unfortunately we can't move those other defenceman that are blocking them because of their terrible anchor contracts.

I'd rather keep Seeler instead of having Risto & Angelo but nobody is going to take them. It makes sense to aquire a 3rd or 4th in a deep draft than keep Seeler for one more season playing him as a 7th D. Maybe they package the pick they get from Seeler with something else to aquire a greater asset.

Provorov
Angelo
Sanheim
York
Risto
Seeler

- dubc55



I stated that if I could get a 3rd, I'd probably move him. Anything less and I would keep him.
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Feb 16 @ 5:53 PM ET
I stated that if I could get a 3rd, I'd probably move him. Anything less and I would keep him.
- MJL


I thought you said you'd take a 2nd otherwise you're keeping him. Maybe I misunderstood the context?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 16 @ 5:56 PM ET
Seeler is not a player that is easily replaceable. He gives really solid value for a player with a 775,000 cap hit. That's not that easy to find. Veterans that might sign on the cheap normally want to do so to play for a good team. You certainly don't want a young kid sitting in the press box. Seeler is an ideal 6/7 defenseman on a team. If all you're going to get is a 5th or a middling prospect. Might as well keep him. Cheap decent depth players is what a team like the Flyers, who should be rebuilding need.
- MJL

I would trade him for a 2023 3rd round pick or better, otherwise I would keep Seeler around.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 16 @ 5:58 PM ET
He seems to be getting his way quite a lot this season.
- Tomahawk

True and the problem I have with this move is it sends a clear message that the Flyers are still playing for the playoffs, which even if it did happen would be disasterous for this franchise. I would have told Torts to stick it and kept Ersson on the Phantoms so that they have a good shot at making the playoffs, to give the kids down there some playoff experience.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 16 @ 6:12 PM ET
True and the problem I have with this move is it sends a clear message that the Flyers are still playing for the playoffs, which even if it did happen would be disasterous for this franchise. I would have told Torts to stick it and kept Ersson on the Phantoms so that they have a good shot at making the playoffs, to give the kids down there some playoff experience.
- jd250


Torts was forced on Chuck by Scott & The Hiring Committee. It sure doesn't seem like Chuck has the clout to be telling Torts to stick anything anywhere. They're basically co-GMs at this point.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 16 @ 8:49 PM ET
I stated that if I could get a 3rd, I'd probably move him. Anything less and I would keep him.
- MJL

I feel the same.
On another topic, i really wish they’d waive Sandstrom and send him down. The risk of losing him is virtually zero and even if they did, he’s not an NHL goalie anyway.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Feb 16 @ 9:20 PM ET
Seeler is not a player that is easily replaceable. He gives really solid value for a player with a 775,000 cap hit. That's not that easy to find. Veterans that might sign on the cheap normally want to do so to play for a good team. You certainly don't want a young kid sitting in the press box. Seeler is an ideal 6/7 defenseman on a team. If all you're going to get is a 5th or a middling prospect. Might as well keep him. Cheap decent depth players is what a team like the Flyers, who should be rebuilding need.
- MJL


Totally agree on Seeler. I've always liked him and as you said, ideal for a 6/7 Dman.
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 16 @ 9:33 PM ET
I feel the same.
On another topic, i really wish they’d waive Sandstrom and send him down. The risk of losing him is virtually zero and even if they did, he’s not an NHL goalie anyway.

- BiggE


Two things bug me about the way they're handling the goalies.
1. While you're probably right Sandstrom isn't an NHL goalie, they seem to only play him the 2nd game of back to backs after not playing for a significant amount of time. He really hasn't been put in a position to show himself.
2. Just let Ersson play as many games with the Phantoms trying to get them in the playoffs and then hopefully some playoff games.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Feb 16 @ 10:15 PM ET
that was ugly by Hayes
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Feb 16 @ 10:35 PM ET
Well that fight inspired the guys. Too bad it was the guys on the other team. Looked like deslauriers hurt his arm or hand too.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 16 @ 10:37 PM ET
make some trades clap clap clap clap clap
make some trades clap clap clap clap clap
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 16 @ 10:45 PM ET
2 SOG lol... what a period
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 16 @ 10:46 PM ET
Cheer up Hart. On pace for 6 shots. Flyers got your back
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 16 @ 10:49 PM ET
Cheer up Hart. On pace for 6 shots. Flyers got your back
- Pelle31Forever

HE'S going to request a trade soon
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 16 @ 10:50 PM ET
Amazing how a team that started from a blank slate 18 mos ago is already so far ahead of the Flyers.

Remember all you dunking on their expansion draft? Look at 'em now, lol!

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 16 @ 10:55 PM ET
Amazing how a team that started from a blank slate 18 mos ago is already so far ahead of the Flyers.

Remember all you dunking on their expansion draft? Look at 'em now, lol!


- Tomahawk

matty beniers drafted 2nd overall hmm hmm hmm
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 16 @ 10:55 PM ET
Ideally, the Flyers would like to get multiple teams giving competing offers for JVR. I can't see the Flyers getting more than 2nd round pick or a mid-tier prospect to rent JVR.

However, I think JVR would like to go to the Wild because he makes his off-season home in Minnesota and his wife's family is there, too.

- bmeltzer

Oh wow!
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 16 @ 11:14 PM ET
Amazing how a team that started from a blank slate 18 mos ago is already so far ahead of the Flyers.

Remember all you dunking on their expansion draft? Look at 'em now, lol!


- Tomahawk


Their draft wasn't amazing but they've come along nicely
THE EVIL WITHIN
Season Ticket Holder
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Feb 16 @ 11:17 PM ET
2 SOG lol... what a period
- Tomahawk

The official stats was 1! 🥳 🎉 🪅 🎊 🍺
THE EVIL WITHIN
Season Ticket Holder
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Feb 16 @ 11:18 PM ET
No buzz in nomansland. Can you fathom this team getting even more boring to watch after nothing big happens on March 3, 3pm ET.❓️
- THE EVIL WITHIN

Bullseye 🎯 impossible they can be more boring 😴 right?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 16 @ 11:24 PM ET
Did Hayes get benched?
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