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hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Feb 9 @ 7:03 PM ET
In a deep draft, two 1sts are better than one.
- MJL

One 1st and improving your chances of winning a cup is better than two late rd firsts. Will they win a Cup with him who knows. Could they have won a Cup this yr without him who knows. Without trading one of their many young assets they improved their chances this yr.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 9 @ 7:05 PM ET
Tarasenko to Rangers and maybe P Kane has surgery, it would be justice for the Hawks for the tank job if they received ZERO for Kane
- wcorvette


Well...There IS that 10 million in cap space. So that is something.


edited to add:

They have 44 million in cap space this offseason, to go along with 2 first round pick in the next two drafts and 6 total picks in the first 3 rounds two years in a row. They will be back fast, probably faster than us by a longshot.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Feb 9 @ 7:06 PM ET
I wonder what the asking price is for Meier from SJ. I would think TK would get similiar value in a trade at the deadline. It would be nice to see the Flyera get another 1st at the deadline. I would not even mind if the 1st got pushed to "24.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 9 @ 7:17 PM ET
Torts with some brutal honesty today about DeAngelo's defensive deficiencies.
- Feanor




What did he say? Link?


edit: NM I found it...

wow

https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2570014

"We know what Tony is. I'm a little bit - not disappointed - but the defensive liability is something we need to work at. I didn't think the amount of work that we need to do with him ... I didn't think that at the point in time that we got him. But it is what it is."

DeAngelo has recorded a respectable 31 points in 47 games this season. However, his minus-12.3 defensive goals above replacement is the worst among all NHL skaters, according to Evolving-Hockey
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 9 @ 7:18 PM ET
Wow
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Feb 9 @ 7:19 PM ET
LaZy HaZe! He could give a first and 2 3rd 😆
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Feb 9 @ 7:32 PM ET
Well, they could trade Hayes- retain some salary and go give Larkin a 7 yr deal in the summer. Not advocating, just would not surptise me.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 9 @ 7:32 PM ET
Did Chiarelli give Nurse that contract ? Gotta be one of the worst in the league
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Feb 9 @ 7:40 PM ET
Well, they could trade Hayes- retain some salary and go give Larkin a 7 yr deal in the summer. Not advocating, just would not surptise me.
- Trox88

No one is taking Hayes...no one
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 9 @ 8:00 PM ET
They couldn't have kept Buchnevich because they could not have paid him. Could they have gotten more for him I am sure they tried. With the Cap and no Cap increase for yrs you cannot pay everyone 6M or more.
- hfc355


We had this conversation when they traded him. I completely debunked that theory. They absolutely could've paid him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 9 @ 8:02 PM ET
One 1st and improving your chances of winning a cup is better than two late rd firsts. Will they win a Cup with him who knows. Could they have won a Cup this yr without him who knows. Without trading one of their many young assets they improved their chances this yr.
- hfc355


I think the Rangers should be holding onto their 1st round picks.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 9 @ 8:04 PM ET
I wonder what the asking price is for Meier from SJ. I would think TK would get similiar value in a trade at the deadline. It would be nice to see the Flyera get another 1st at the deadline. I would not even mind if the 1st got pushed to "24.
- Trox88


Meier is a UFA. Konecny is not.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 9 @ 8:06 PM ET
Did Chiarelli give Nurse that contract ? Gotta be one of the worst in the league
- ClaudeFather


Watching that period, Edmonton is not a very good team. They have some offensive superstars, but their structure is awful. They don't check well, have no neutral zone presence. They just want to trade rushes and scoring chances. They're horribly coached. With the skill they have, if they would tighten up defensively and create turnovers for transition. They'd be much better.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Feb 9 @ 8:10 PM ET
Watching that period, Edmonton is not a very good team. They have some offensive superstars, but their structure is awful. They don't check well, have no neutral zone presence. They just want to trade rushes and scoring chances. They're horribly coached. With the skill they have, if they would tighten up defensively and create turnovers for transition. They'd be much better.
- MJL


They need Torts
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Feb 9 @ 8:13 PM ET
Meier is a UFA. Konecny is not.
- MJL


Timo is an interesting situation. Accordijg to LeBrun, he is an RFA who would have a qualifying offer at $10 million. He speculates a multi year deal starts at $9 million.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 9 @ 8:14 PM ET
They need Torts
- Dkos


No
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 9 @ 8:15 PM ET
Timo is an interesting situation. Accordijg to LeBrun, he is an RFA who would have a qualifying offer at $10 million. He speculates a multi year deal starts at $9 million.
- Trox88


You're right, he's an RFA, not a UFA.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Feb 9 @ 8:16 PM ET
No

- MJL


Once the rest of the guys see McDavid blocking shots it will all click
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 9 @ 8:18 PM ET
Once the rest of the guys see McDavid blocking shots it will all click
- Dkos



Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Feb 9 @ 8:27 PM ET
You're right, he's an RFA, not a UFA.
- MJL


I know they are different type players and contract situations, but I do wonder what the trade proposals would be for both players. Granted, I do not think the Flyers have the courage to move TK at the deadlinr.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 9 @ 8:32 PM ET
I know they are different type players and contract situations, but I do wonder what the trade proposals would be for both players. Granted, I do not think the Flyers have the courage to move TK at the deadlinr.
- Trox88


Well, Konecny has some cost control with two more years at 5.5M.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 9 @ 8:34 PM ET
Watching that period, Edmonton is not a very good team. They have some offensive superstars, but their structure is awful. They don't check well, have no neutral zone presence. They just want to trade rushes and scoring chances. They're horribly coached. With the skill they have, if they would tighten up defensively and create turnovers for transition. They'd be much better.
- MJL

I haven’t watched them much this year, that’s not a team that’s winning anything. Or coming close. Very loose style of play
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Feb 9 @ 8:43 PM ET
Well, Konecny has some cost control with two more years at 5.5M.
- MJL


I would assume a TK trade would start with the G compenation from FLA last season. Would they ask for another draft pick (not a 1st) or a second prospect? I believe the Tarasenko trade today actually helps to add value for the Flyers in trading TK. The cap hit under control for 2 yrs should be very appealing.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 9 @ 8:51 PM ET
I would assume a TK trade would start with the G compenation from FLA last season. Would they ask for another draft pick (not a 1st) or a second prospect? I believe the Tarasenko trade today actually helps to add value for the Flyers in trading TK. The cap hit under control for 2 yrs should be very appealing.
- Trox88


Giroux was a rental and 34 years old. Konecny is still a fairly young player in his prime and not a rental. Hockey trades are difficult to make at the trade deadline with the cap picture around the league.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 9 @ 8:59 PM ET
Good to see the PP back to where they should just decline the penalty.
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