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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 7 @ 9:43 PM ET
Dumb penalty to take haha
buckster2342
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 7 @ 9:45 PM ET
Wowwwww
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 7 @ 9:45 PM ET
Hahaha fvck yeah!
Pags
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stony Point, NY
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 7 @ 9:46 PM ET
This should take about 30 seconds.
- madmike71
or 2 minutes and 30 seconds lol.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Feb 7 @ 9:46 PM ET
Woooooooooooo
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 7 @ 9:46 PM ET
CDS stole that. Easily his best game of the year.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Feb 7 @ 9:46 PM ET
Never doubted em lol
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 7 @ 9:46 PM ET
or 2 minutes and 30 seconds lol.
- Pags


You're welcome.
buckster2342
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 7 @ 9:47 PM ET
CDS stole that. Easily his best game of the year.
- madmike71

Watch he gives up 6 against the kings lol
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 7 @ 9:47 PM ET
CDS stole that. Easily his best game of the year.
- madmike71


Stood on his head this game. He needed that.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Feb 7 @ 9:47 PM ET
Once again. 4-4 is so much better.
Pags
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stony Point, NY
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 7 @ 9:50 PM ET
CDS stole that. Easily his best game of the year.
- madmike71
Absolutely and really unexpected the way he was leaving juicy rebounds in the 1rst.
JLT168
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PGH, PA
Joined: 07.09.2012

Feb 7 @ 9:52 PM ET
Carters job their is to cover the front and not let McKinnon make any passes to the slot. It wouldn’t have mattered if it was Crosby, Mckinnions scoring that goal.
- Grinder47


That’s not wrong, the issue I have is Carter didn’t even realize he was there until it was too late, it wasn’t a decision he made to just stay there and cover the net, he had no idea what was going on at that point, granted it all happens in a split second.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Feb 7 @ 9:52 PM ET
Tanger got that one across the line.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Feb 7 @ 10:21 PM ET
I was downtown for the game tonight and I can 100% see why attendance is lower. It is a nightmare down by the arena with all of the construction. It's a mess to get there, mess to park, and a mess to leave.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Feb 8 @ 6:03 AM ET
That’s not wrong, the issue I have is Carter didn’t even realize he was there until it was too late, it wasn’t a decision he made to just stay there and cover the net, he had no idea what was going on at that point, granted it all happens in a split second.
- JLT168

Carter was covering his man. I just watched it again the second Carter drops down he opens up a one timer. Petry chasing behind the net was the real break down. Can’t chase players like McKinnon behind the net. Jake should probably stop taking selfish lazy penalties, he’s really the one at blame.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 8 @ 6:23 AM ET
F'n right I'll take this vs the champs who'd won 7 of their last 8

Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Feb 8 @ 6:36 AM ET
Carter was covering his man. I just watched it again the second Carter drops down he opens up a one timer. Petry chasing behind the net was the real break down. Can’t chase players like McKinnon behind the net. Jake should probably stop taking selfish lazy penalties, he’s really the one at blame.
- Grinder47


It was good execution by Colorado. Pittsburgh was playing man to man, which is normal in a four-on-four situation. Colorado set up a play where MacKinnon was alone one-on-one on the right side of the ice. Pettersson has two choices, force MacKinnon to his weak side or force him wide. Getting beat clean isn't one of them, but that's what happened.

Petry followed his man behind the net, another no-no. Let him go, pick him up when he circles back. No need to chase.

Yes, Carter was covering his man. What he wasn't doing was having his 'head on a swivel'. When not one but two defensemen got beat, he needed to collapse on the puck carrier.

Holding Colorado to one goal was impressive. Overall, the Pens played decent. DeSmith played, let's just say he stopped a lot of pucks. He certainly didn't look good. Unless you think all that pirouetting he did was impressive.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Feb 8 @ 6:38 AM ET
F'n right I'll take this vs the champs who'd won 7 of their last 8


- MattStrat


So expected goals were 6.78. I was robbed. Do you think I can get my money back.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 8 @ 7:38 AM ET
So expected goals were 6.78. I was robbed. Do you think I can get my money back.
- Thunderbolt


Depends. What's the current exchange rate of expected goals to actual goals?
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Feb 8 @ 7:43 AM ET
Depends. What's the current exchange rate of expected goals to actual goals?
- jmatchett383


I don't know. Might be a good idea to learn that before I bet again.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 8 @ 8:27 AM ET
So expected goals were 6.78. I was robbed. Do you think I can get my money back.
- Thunderbolt


hahaha

Nope.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 8 @ 8:28 AM ET
Depends. What's the current exchange rate of expected goals to actual goals?
- jmatchett383


hahaha
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 8 @ 9:05 AM ET
hahaha
- MattStrat


I'd like to see a study for all games league wide that compares expected goals to actual goals. If they're off by more than 10%, I'd say the current "expected goals" formula needs to be either discredited or redone.

Edit:
So I actually did this for last season (using vhttps://www.moneypuck.com/teams.htm). I know some of the GF and GA were off by a little by checking with nhl.com, but only by 1-2 in some cases, so close enough for a 1312 game sample.

The average %difference for GF vs. xGF and GA vs. xGA is 1.4%, which I'd call pretty darn good.

The largest difference in GF vs. xGF was Minnesota (21.7% above) and the smallest was Anaheim (0%).

The largest difference in GA vs. xGA was Columbus (25.5% below) and the smallest was San Jose (0%).

The best combined xG vs G team was St. Louis (23.6% above) and the worst was New Jersey (22.9% below).

The Penguins were 180 GF vs. 184 xGF (2.2% under) and 154 GA vs. 160 xGA (3.8% above).

One final note: 9 teams whose goalies received a Vezina vote all had a positions GA vs. xGA with an average of 7.5%.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Feb 8 @ 10:16 AM ET
It was good execution by Colorado. Pittsburgh was playing man to man, which is normal in a four-on-four situation. Colorado set up a play where MacKinnon was alone one-on-one on the right side of the ice. Pettersson has two choices, force MacKinnon to his weak side or force him wide. Getting beat clean isn't one of them, but that's what happened.

Petry followed his man behind the net, another no-no. Let him go, pick him up when he circles back. No need to chase.

Yes, Carter was covering his man. What he wasn't doing was having his 'head on a swivel'. When not one but two defensemen got beat, he needed to collapse on the puck carrier.

Holding Colorado to one goal was impressive. Overall, the Pens played decent. DeSmith played, let's just say he stopped a lot of pucks. He certainly didn't look good. Unless you think all that pirouetting he did was impressive.

- Thunderbolt




He has to be so aggressive to fill up the holes he creates by making himself so small. He had 3 or more shots ring of his helmet that were at chest height.

I'll take that performance but it doesn't seem sustainable with the way he plays.

Also thanks to Mack for missing the net a few times on the OT PP.

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