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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 7 @ 8:16 PM ET
Therrien today on real Kyler and Bourne was very adamant that this was Torts letter , pretty interesting . Didn’t blame corporate and guaranteed that Fletcher would do no such thing, it was all Torts
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 8:20 PM ET
Therrien today on real Kyler and Bourne was very adamant that this was Torts letter , pretty interesting . Didn’t blame corporate and guaranteed that Fletcher would do no such thing, it was all Torts
- ClaudeFather



Something like that is not released to the public without being approved by upstairs.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 7 @ 8:22 PM ET
Something like that is not released to the public without being approved by upstairs.
- MJL

For sure, but I looked at it as a strictly upstairs corporate nonsense. Odd to see Therrien so adamant that this was Torts’ thing to own
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Feb 7 @ 8:59 PM ET
For sure, but I looked at it as a strictly upstairs corporate nonsense. Odd to see Therrien so adamant that this was Torts’ thing to own
- ClaudeFather


What impact do you think management saying the 3 April home games is “on them” will have on season ticket sales next year,if any?

THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Feb 7 @ 9:00 PM ET
Oh no doubt, but you live through it and when Crosby retires, you blow the rest up and rebuild.
- BiggE

Hopefully Comcast will blow it up if Couturier retires.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 7 @ 9:41 PM ET
Hopefully Comcast will blow it up if Couturier retires.
- THE EVIL WITHIN

Comcast would first have to actually give a (frank)
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 8 @ 9:06 AM ET
Something like that is not released to the public without being approved by upstairs.
- MJL

True, but I do believe this letter indicates the Flyers plan to sell more than JvR and Braun at the deadline. They may be going the 2016 Rangers route.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Feb 8 @ 9:12 AM ET
True, but I do believe this letter indicates the Flyers plan to sell more than JvR and Braun at the deadline. They may be going the 2016 Rangers route.
- jd250
You honestly see the Flyers totally blowing this up? I don't. I'm just cringing at the thought that they may try to add instead of subtract. I'm glad that they are at least competitive in most games, but they better understand that it's about collecting as many assets as they can moving forward.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Feb 8 @ 9:31 AM ET
True, but I do believe this letter indicates the Flyers plan to sell more than JvR and Braun at the deadline. They may be going the 2016 Rangers route.
- jd250


They do not have a lot to trade honestly. No one is taking Hayes, Atkinson or Ellis at this deadline. Trading Provy, Hart or TK would make more sense in the offseason. I think this TDL is going to be a big nothing burger.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 8 @ 9:45 AM ET
Anyone else find it funny that the Flyers have the worst powerplay in the league since Fletcher revamped the roster in summer 2021? So many players and picks out the door just to have the 32nd best PP.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Feb 8 @ 10:35 AM ET
Anyone else find it funny that the Flyers have the worst powerplay in the league since Fletcher revamped the roster in summer 2021? So many players and picks out the door just to have the 32nd best PP.
- Feanor


I was told Provy was terrible at the point and a better PP Qb was needed, hence the Tony DeAngrlo trade. Ooopps.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Feb 8 @ 10:44 AM ET
What does it take to get Hughes out of Vancouver?
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 8 @ 10:58 AM ET
What does it take to get Hughes out of Vancouver?
- mickel25


Honestly? That's like 2024 first round pick, probably one of Cates/York/Farabee?/Frost/Tippett and then maybe another roster player? Maybe Risto can be the salary dump in the trade. One can dream right?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 8 @ 11:30 AM ET
True, but I do believe this letter indicates the Flyers plan to sell more than JvR and Braun at the deadline. They may be going the 2016 Rangers route.
- jd250


I did not get anything about that from that letter. Good luck going with the Rangers route. All they need is a future Norris trophy defenseman to only want to play with the Flyers and an elite player in his late 20's to want to only play with the Flyers.
Outside of an unlikely hockey trade, there is very little that Fletcher will be able to do at this upcoming trade deadline.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Feb 8 @ 11:46 AM ET
Anyone else find it funny that the Flyers have the worst powerplay in the league since Fletcher revamped the roster in summer 2021? So many players and picks out the door just to have the 32nd best PP.
- Feanor


Aggressive retool!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 8 @ 12:13 PM ET
You honestly see the Flyers totally blowing this up? I don't. I'm just cringing at the thought that they may try to add instead of subtract. I'm glad that they are at least competitive in most games, but they better understand that it's about collecting as many assets as they can moving forward.
- Phillywhiteout

There is a reason it was announced that the Flyers are refunding STHs for the April games. That is because the Flyers know there will be nothing to watch in those games, meaning they expect to lose most of them. Why is that? Because the Flyers will sell hard at the deadline, bring up more kids and try to tank as much as possible to get a top 5 pick. I expect JVR, Hayes and DeAngelo all moved at the deadline, and maybe even Provorov. I sincerely hope TK stays.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 8 @ 12:15 PM ET
I did not get anything about that from that letter. Good luck going with the Rangers route. All they need is a future Norris trophy defenseman to only want to play with the Flyers and an elite player in his late 20's to want to only play with the Flyers.
Outside of an unlikely hockey trade, there is very little that Fletcher will be able to do at this upcoming trade deadline.

- MJL

Well, sure, there is a not an Adam Fox or Panarin banging on the Flyers door, but what I meant is I believe the Flyers will be hard sellers at the deadline and will try to tank the rest of the way. That is the only reason I can think of that Torts would send out this letter at this time as well as the Flyers refunding STHs for April games.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 8 @ 12:26 PM ET
There is a reason it was announced that the Flyers are refunding STHs for the April games. That is because the Flyers know there will be nothing to watch in those games, meaning they expect to lose most of them. Why is that? Because the Flyers will sell hard at the deadline, bring up more kids and try to tank as much as possible to get a top 5 pick. I expect JVR, Hayes and DeAngelo all moved at the deadline, and maybe even Provorov. I sincerely hope TK stays.
- jd250


The Flyers can't predict or know what they're going to be able to do. You can sell all you want. Need buyers. I think you're going to be disappointed at what happens at the deadline and will likely criticize Fletcher for not meeting unreasonable expectations.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 8 @ 12:30 PM ET
Well, sure, there is a not an Adam Fox or Panarin banging on the Flyers door, but what I meant is I believe the Flyers will be hard sellers at the deadline and will try to tank the rest of the way. That is the only reason I can think of that Torts would send out this letter at this time as well as the Flyers refunding STHs for April games.
- jd250


It doesn't seem as though you are aware of what the Flyers are doing. They are only refunding the cost of three April games for STH if they renew their tickets for the 23/24 season. It's essentially a sale on a handful of games in order to sell tickets for the following season. It has squat to do with what they plan to do at the deadline. It's not even a refund. They will direct the money towards tickets for next season.

The Flyers are giving STH holders 3 free games if they renew their tickets and you think that shows what they're going to do at the trade deadline. It has nothing to do with the trade deadline. It's about the Flyers ticket sales and attendance dwindling down.

So it's the Rangers rebuild minus a Fox and Panarin.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 8 @ 12:41 PM ET
I was told Provy was terrible at the point and a better PP Qb was needed, hence the Tony DeAngrlo trade. Ooopps.
- Trox88

Blame the guy with 15 PP Points. That’s smart
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 8 @ 12:44 PM ET
Blame the guy with 15 PP Points. That’s smart
- ClaudeFather


I believe the point is that they gave up multiple draft picks to trade for the player, for what? Not to blame Angelo.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Feb 8 @ 12:48 PM ET
Actual picture of Torts writing the letter yesterday.


- hockeylover

😆 But in reality it was a clerk from the Cohen & Goldberg law firm who wrote it.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Feb 8 @ 1:10 PM ET
Blame the guy with 15 PP Points. That’s smart
- ClaudeFather


So the assets used to acquire the player and the cap space used was worthwhile? Also, the even strength play by DeAngelo is worth the 15 PP points? Interesting theory.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 8 @ 1:24 PM ET
So the assets used to acquire the player and the cap space used was worthwhile? Also, the even strength play by DeAngelo is worth the 15 PP points? Interesting theory.
- Trox88



The GM is a complete buffoon. More of the same to follow.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 8 @ 1:29 PM ET
What does it take to get Hughes out of Vancouver?
- mickel25


A lot more than the Flyers have to offer.
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