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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 12:14 PM ET
I don’t believe it would be but what would be worse is the goals against. I’m fine with favoring the defensive side for developing goalies. How many high offensive players are they really stifling? Hayes and TK are having good offensive production years. As a team, I think they are scoring to the top of their capabilities.
- NC Flyers Fan


Goals against could be worse but goal production could rise. It's not about stifling other offensive players. It's about what is best for Cates.
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Feb 7 @ 12:26 PM ET
I think what this really says is that Torts is officially running the team at this point. Chuckles is incompetent and Scott knows NOTHING about the game of hockey. They found their hockey guy to run the show and get the kind of players that he relishes.
- Phillywhiteout



Bad leaders, this organization has many, lead from behind. They don’t have the leadership skills or the courage to lead from the front.

I like what Torts is doing with this team. He needs more talent but he definitely has this player accountable to play hard! He’s not just holding the young players accountable like several recent coaches have. I hope he stays long term but most others in management and ownership can leave!!
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 7 @ 12:27 PM ET
Goals against could be worse but goal production could rise. It's not about stifling other offensive players. It's about what is best for Cates.
- MJL


Like I said, I think Cates gets an opportunity to expand his toolbox. It would definitely be worse for the goalies and growth to be getting blown out in the losses instead of being within striking distance. I actually like this better for development, and I just don’t think they lose more the other way. Losing more really has never been their objective, and I am fine with that. The weird contracts, traded draft picks, odd selections, lack of team building within development….not so much (at all).
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 7 @ 12:39 PM ET
Did you hear the broadcast talking about how they may rethink what happens with JVR because of the way he is mentoring the kids?

I almost lost it.

- MBFlyerfan

And you damn well know they were told to say that
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 7 @ 12:44 PM ET
Did you hear the broadcast talking about how they may rethink what happens with JVR because of the way he is mentoring the kids?

I almost lost it.

- MBFlyerfan

said before wont be shocked he is back. Dallas has some interest.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 12:49 PM ET
Like I said, I think Cates gets an opportunity to expand his toolbox. It would definitely be worse for the goalies and growth to be getting blown out in the losses instead of being within striking distance. I actually like this better for development, and I just don’t think they lose more the other way. Losing more really has never been their objective, and I am fine with that. The weird contracts, traded draft picks, odd selections, lack of team building within development….not so much (at all).
- NC Flyers Fan


Cates can't expand the toolbox with the opportunity. He does not have the skills and talent to play center offensively.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 7 @ 12:58 PM ET
Cates can't expand the toolbox with the opportunity. He does not have the skills and talent to play center offensively.
- MJL


Once again, you made this statement from the beginning, and we shall see. Not going to be able to tell until he gets behind a much better center in the depth chart. I think it makes sense to give him the opportunity. We’ll see if they get a decent form of Coots back or somehow manage to get a 1C elsewhere or over time Gauthier becomes 1C. I’m not going to write off Cates abilities to develop, not into a 1C of course, but maybe a 3C.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 7 @ 1:00 PM ET
Cates can't expand the toolbox with the opportunity. He does not have the skills and talent to play center offensively.
- MJL

you also said andy mcdonald was a legit #1 dman.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Feb 7 @ 1:01 PM ET
Ek is saying his sources are saying the Flyers are seriously interested in Boeser.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 7 @ 1:03 PM ET
you also said andy mcdonald was a legit #1 dman.
- hello it's me 2050



Umm, no. He never said that ever.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 7 @ 1:05 PM ET
Umm, no. He never said that ever.
- MBFlyerfan

yes he did
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 7 @ 1:06 PM ET
yes he did
- hello it's me 2050



No, he didn't.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 7 @ 1:07 PM ET
No, he didn't.
- MBFlyerfan

then what did he say about andy mac being a #1 dman. let me guess nothing right?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 7 @ 1:08 PM ET
then what did he say about andy mac being a #1 dman. let me guess nothing right?
- hello it's me 2050



You tell me since you are making the claim.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 7 @ 1:09 PM ET
You tell me since you are making the claim.
- MBFlyerfan

already did
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 7 @ 1:10 PM ET
already did
- hello it's me 2050


No, you didn't. Show me where he said it.

I'll wait. Maybe I'll check back next week.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 7 @ 1:10 PM ET
Ek is saying his sources are saying the Flyers are seriously interested in Boeser.
- Minnyhock

Wonderful. A broken guy who never reached his potential
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 7 @ 1:12 PM ET
I think I’d honestly be the Flyers over the Islanders in their current situations. Flyers at least have a slim chance of turning things around with 3, potentially 4, draft picks in the upcoming years.
- ClaudeFather


I mean Lou at least picked a direction with his team. He decided he should push for the playoffs and did so. That's better than floundering in the middle with mixed messages. Hopefully when it fails he or someone else will pick a rebuild direction.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 7 @ 1:14 PM ET
Let's cut the childish back and forth before it gets too far away from discussing the hockey and current topics of the day. Who cares about Andy Macdonald who isn't even on the team?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 7 @ 1:15 PM ET
I mean Lou at least picked a direction with his team. He decided he should push for the playoffs and did so. That's better than floundering in the middle with mixed messages. Hopefully when it fails he or someone else will pick a rebuild direction.
- Aaron_85

Isles fate is signed, stamped, and delivered. Worst spot to be in hockey. Flyers have a chance of coming out of this
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 7 @ 1:16 PM ET
No, you didn't. Show me where he said it.

I'll wait. Maybe I'll check back next week.

- MBFlyerfan

he said it, except it. go back to Bill's game day blog against the 3rd caps game during the 14-15 season.

guess 2 people cant have a discussion about a former flyer. Frowned upon. amazing what can and cant be said.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Feb 7 @ 1:17 PM ET
Cates can't expand the toolbox with the opportunity. He does not have the skills and talent to play center offensively.
- MJL


but yet he has 22 point and is a plus 5 so far as a rookie in a new role. you champion frost a lot. he has 25 points and is minus 4.

not saying he has the same puck skills as frost, but he has been a pleasant surprise this year, especially with the adjustment to center on the fly. and is better defensively as well.




Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Feb 7 @ 1:20 PM ET
Wonderful. A broken guy who never reached his potential
- ClaudeFather


It doesn’t make sense. Get rid of JVR who brings most of his value on the PP and bring in another guy with term who does his best work on the PP. Save some cap though. $7 Mil vs $6.65 Mil.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 7 @ 1:21 PM ET
It doesn’t make sense. Get rid of JVR who brings most of his value on the PP and bring in another guy with term who does his best work on the PP. Save some cap though. $7 Mil vs $6.65 Mil.
- Minnyhock

straight up for ivan....
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 7 @ 1:22 PM ET
Isles fate is signed, stamped, and delivered. Worst spot to be in hockey. Flyers have a chance of coming out of this
- ClaudeFather


That's fair. I can just respect Lou picking a direction. If he picked to rebuild I'd also have respected it.
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