So you'd be okay with a 3rd round pick?
- BetweenTheDots

Yes zi would be okay with a 3 rd round pick.

I hope he's able to get more than a 3rd, but you know sometimes it's just not in the cards. So i guess the board consesus is we keep him? I guess that's one way to rebuild

So you think that if he settled for a 3rd round pick he would fold in contract negotiatons? Now that's a stretch
- BetweenTheDots

If he throws his hands up and says that all I can get for a guy that should have multiple teams interested. In my own lizard mind, I believe he is worth a 2nd. That is where my argument stems. If neither KD nor the league believes the same, then I'm wrong (certainly not the first time for that - Hell, I was one of the idiots that said "just give JC more time").

I guess what I was trying to say was that I'd much rather that KD told everyone to pound sand than take lesser value than what the player is worth. Especially, in this particular case where Lafferty has another year on his contract. I personally believe that mindset would predict the issue I stated regarding the contracts.

Absolute Clown Show....

Started with the McJesus knickname segment and somehow only got worse.

The philosophy of pandering.

ESPN will have zero positive impact on hockey. It will only set it back. Having Brad whatever his name is calling games is akin to Harry Caray calling a chess match.

ESPN trying to Wake hockey is akin to Nike trying to enter the board sports apparel market in the early 2000's.

Efforts fall flat on the deaf ears of the faithful. Their brand and logo repel and do not attract the fans.

Hockey does not need to pander. It will always have a dedicated fan base, not swayed by current woke environment. The fan base, while smaller in size, is affluent. In fact, you could grow the game and ESPN can earn fans respect, if they simply featured the players, their stories, and their talents. Instead, they choreograph a Disney on Ice show.

I can not believe that nonsense got out of committee.

Absolute Clown Show....

Started with the McJesus knickname segment and somehow only got worse.

The philosophy of pandering.

ESPN will have zero positive impact on hockey. It will only set it back. Having Brad whatever his name is calling games is akin to Harry Caray calling a chess match.

ESPN trying to Wake hockey is akin to Nike trying to enter the board sports apparel market in the early 2000's.

Efforts fall flat on the deaf ears of the faithful. Their brand and logo repel and do not attract the fans.

Hockey does not need to pander. It will always have a dedicated fan base, not swayed by current woke environment. The fan base, while smaller in size, is affluent. In fact, you could grow the game and ESPN can earn fans respect, if they simply featured the players, their stories, and their talents. Instead, they choreograph a Disney on Ice show.

I can not believe that nonsense got out of committee.
- TrueGrit

Are you Arlington Rob's younger, less talented brother?

Absolute Clown Show....

Started with the McJesus knickname segment and somehow only got worse.

The philosophy of pandering.

ESPN will have zero positive impact on hockey. It will only set it back. Having Brad whatever his name is calling games is akin to Harry Caray calling a chess match.

ESPN trying to Wake hockey is akin to Nike trying to enter the board sports apparel market in the early 2000's.

Efforts fall flat on the deaf ears of the faithful. Their brand and logo repel and do not attract the fans.

Hockey does not need to pander. It will always have a dedicated fan base, not swayed by current woke environment. The fan base, while smaller in size, is affluent. In fact, you could grow the game and ESPN can earn fans respect, if they simply featured the players, their stories, and their talents. Instead, they choreograph a Disney on Ice show.

I can not believe that nonsense got out of committee.
- TrueGrit

I’m guessing you didn’t like it?

Sadly I think this trade deadline is turning into a buyer’s market. You have multiple teams dumping talent to tank harder, multiple teams willing to launder contracts and retain as a third party, and some GMs wising up to how tough it can be to not pick in the first round.

No GM wants to be in Florida’s shoes, on the outside of the playoffs with no First. Same situation the Hawks were in last year, same as Ottawa five years ago.

I’m hopeful that we can dump Murphy, Athanasiou, and maybe some others. But my expectations have pulled back.

Your piece is 100,% On point.
- 5Hole Mgee

That’s what she said

You get what you can for Athanaseu, no reason to just give Lafferty away.
- LAHawk

What can Domi fetch?!

What can Domi fetch?!
- Assman22

A ball?

If he throws his hands up and says that all I can get for a guy that should have multiple teams interested. In my own lizard mind, I believe he is worth a 2nd. That is where my argument stems. If neither KD nor the league believes the same, then I'm wrong (certainly not the first time for that - Hell, I was one of the idiots that said "just give JC more time").

I guess what I was trying to say was that I'd much rather that KD told everyone to pound sand than take lesser value than what the player is worth. Especially, in this particular case where Lafferty has another year on his contract. I personally believe that mindset would predict the issue I stated regarding the contracts.
- Chunk

I see your point, to me other than being able to see talent, one of the most important things a gm must be flexible. I don't want to get less than a 2nd rounder for him, but I'd be willing to take a 3rd, maybe i wouldn't take a 4th but maybe a 4th and 5th, or let's say a 4th and a prospect that fits your mold, i want as many swing and misses as i can accumulate, because if you have that pound the sand mentality when you're trying to rebuild all your going to be left with is sand.

New blog up.

If the return is a 3rd or 4th round pick then KD should keep Lafferty. I don’t think he’s worth more, but he’s also worth more than that to the Hawks.
- DarthKane

Well said. If Hagel brought two firsts and two seconds, Lafferty should bring at least two seconds. Anything less keep him for the transition. Him, Domi, Raddysh, D!ckinson, Kurashev are decent hockey players and should not be sold off cheap.

You get what you can for Athanaseu, no reason to just give Lafferty away.
- LAHawk

This!

You still need vets next year, he isn’t blocking anyone.
- LAHawk

Agree. And look at the success rate of 3rd round picks. How many never make the NHL. How many do and are no better than Lafferty. When would a 3rd round pick be NHL ready? 3 years or more.
Lafferty is a hockey player. AA is not.

So you don't trust your ability to draft players? I guess if the Blackhawks feel the same way they shouldn't either

And if you do end up with another Lafferty in 3 to 4 years he'd actually help the rebuild
- BetweenTheDots

It’s not a matter of trusting your ability to draft or develop. It’s a matter of looking at the history and odds and success rate of a 3rd or 4th round pick. They are just not very good. Big difference between 2nd and 4th round picks. It’s like a lottery ticket versus a share of a large cap stock.