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BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 5 @ 8:58 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Mario...x4cKQtN4mUypmnLaKRpw&s=01

Isn't this a fast as Svechnikov?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 5 @ 9:05 PM ET
@TheFourthPeriod

TRADE: San Jose has traded D Jaycob Megna to Seattle for a 2023 4th round draft pick.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 5 @ 9:14 PM ET
https://twitter.com/frank...n8TNDLsyg7jXYQvO0hKA&s=01

I hope so
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 5 @ 9:31 PM ET
https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1622251110118395906?t=4tn8TNDLsyg7jXYQvO0hKA&s=01

I hope so

- BetweenTheDots


If the return is a 3rd or 4th round pick then KD should keep Lafferty. I don’t think he’s worth more, but he’s also worth more than that to the Hawks.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Feb 5 @ 9:35 PM ET
If the return is a 3rd or 4th round pick then KD should keep Lafferty. I don’t think he’s worth more, but he’s also worth more than that to the Hawks.
- DarthKane
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I agree. Make a team pay for cost certainty like KD made Tampa pay. If the return is less than a second, keep him.

DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 5 @ 9:42 PM ET
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I agree. Make a team pay for cost certainty like KD made Tampa pay. If the return is less than a second, keep him.

- LAHawk


Lafferty to Toronto for Fraser Minten.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Feb 5 @ 9:56 PM ET
Toews misses practice again with a non-COVID illness.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Feb 5 @ 10:03 PM ET
If the return is a 3rd or 4th round pick then KD should keep Lafferty. I don’t think he’s worth more, but he’s also worth more than that to the Hawks.
- DarthKane


Yeah, I am keeping him too if they don't get a 2023 second rd. pick.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Feb 5 @ 10:08 PM ET
Sad

HTTPS://www.reviewjournal...tcy-records-show-2723918/
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Feb 5 @ 10:25 PM ET
They have modified no-trade clauses - Murphy has a 10 team no-trade list and McCabe has 7. Both situations are quite manageable. Myers has a 10 team no-trade list, my guess is that players are lining up to leave the Canucks.
- DarthKane

I actually meant new NMC for Kane and Toews.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 5 @ 10:43 PM ET
With the Hawks filling the prospect ranks with d-men is it time to trade one for a forward prospect? Nylander / Jokiharju part deux?

Nolan Allan for Brad Lambert?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 5 @ 10:45 PM ET
I actually meant new NMC for Kane and Toews.
- paulr



That was the inherent assumption. One does not give Kane and Toews new contracts without NMCs.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 5 @ 10:45 PM ET
If the return is a 3rd or 4th round pick then KD should keep Lafferty. I don’t think he’s worth more, but he’s also worth more than that to the Hawks.
- DarthKane


Nah, get what you can
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 5 @ 10:50 PM ET
Sad

HTTPS://www.reviewjournal...tcy-records-show-2723918/

- LAHawk


Man that's crazy
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Feb 5 @ 11:14 PM ET
Nah, get what you can
- BetweenTheDots


You get what you can for Athanaseu, no reason to just give Lafferty away.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 5 @ 11:19 PM ET
You get what you can for Athanaseu, no reason to just give Lafferty away.
- LAHawk


I don't think KD has to have any kind of pride in any deal right now, its not like Lafferty is part of this teams future. Get as many picks as you can
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Feb 5 @ 11:23 PM ET
I don't think KD has to have any kind of pride in any deal right now, its not like Lafferty is part of this teams future. Get as many picks as you can
- BetweenTheDots


You still need vets next year, he isn’t blocking anyone.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 5 @ 11:24 PM ET
You still need vets next year, he isn’t blocking anyone.
- LAHawk


Thats what free agency is for

So don't make a deal when someone is willing to trade you draft pick or picks, and keep a player who's not part of your future because you felt you could get more for him

I mean are we trying to rebuild this team or not?
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Feb 5 @ 11:35 PM ET
Thats what free agency is for

So don't make a deal when someone is willing to trade you draft pick or picks, and keep a player who's not part of your future because you felt you could get more for him

I mean are we trying to rebuild this team or not?

- BetweenTheDots


If you don’t get what you want at the trade deadline, if you are so anxious to get a draft pick, you can trade him after the season or next TDL.

Trading Lafferty for a 4th or 5th round pick is not accelerating the rebuild. All your getting maybe in another 3-4 years is another Lafferty.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 5 @ 11:41 PM ET
If you don’t get what you want at the trade deadline, if you are so anxious to get a draft pick, you can trade him after the season or next TDL.

Trading Lafferty for a 4th or 5th round pick is not accelerating the rebuild. All your getting maybe in another 3-4 years is another Lafferty.

- LAHawk


So you don't trust your ability to draft players? I guess if the Blackhawks feel the same way they shouldn't either

And if you do end up with another Lafferty in 3 to 4 years he'd actually help the rebuild
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Feb 6 @ 12:05 AM ET
So you don't trust your ability to draft players? I guess if the Blackhawks feel the same way they shouldn't either

And if you do end up with another Lafferty in 3 to 4 years he'd actually help the rebuild

- BetweenTheDots


Only 11% of 4th round draft choices and 7% of 5 th rounders play 100 games or more in the nhl. So iff the Hawks are twice as good drafters than the rest of the league, the person they draft have a less than 1 in 4 chance of having any sort of meaningful contribution in the NHL. As a GM, I hope KD sticks with I won’t trade anyone unless I get what I believe to be fair value. You still need to fill out a roster next year, and I think Lafferty is more valuable to he Hawks than a 4th or 5th round picks.

We can get those picks trading AA possibly Richardinson, maybe J Johnson, for 4th 5 th round picks.

Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Feb 6 @ 12:30 AM ET
Sad

HTTPS://www.reviewjournal...tcy-records-show-2723918/

- LAHawk


Depending on how accurate the article is, I’m not sure sad is the right word here. It sounds more like poor decisions and the slight possibility of improperly representing his business to investors.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Feb 6 @ 12:38 AM ET
Nah, get what you can
- BetweenTheDots


Still upset about not getting 6th rounders for Strome and Kubalik?

It is quite simply poor negotiating to “take what you can”. For the reasons laid out in the article, Lafferty will (and does) have a lot of interest throughout the league. If you can’t pull more than a 3rd or 4th for him, KD simply isn’t doing his job. And frankly, to me, that would foretell the Hawks being back in exactly the same crap position they are now as he would likely fold when a player demanded for more money than they were worth in contract talks.

Take what you can get is what you do when you have no leverage, or no demand in an asset.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 6 @ 7:02 AM ET
Still upset about not getting 6th rounders for Strome and Kubalik?

It is quite simply poor negotiating to “take what you can”. For the reasons laid out in the article, Lafferty will (and does) have a lot of interest throughout the league. If you can’t pull more than a 3rd or 4th for him, KD simply isn’t doing his job. And frankly, to me, that would foretell the Hawks being back in exactly the same crap position they are now as he would likely fold when a player demanded for more money than they were worth in contract talks.

Take what you can get is what you do when you have no leverage, or no demand in an asset.

- Chunk


I hope he's able to get more than a 3rd, but you know sometimes it's just not in the cards. So i guess the board consesus is we keep him? I guess that's one way to rebuild

So you think that if he settled for a 3rd round pick he would fold in contract negotiatons? Now that's a stretch
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 6 @ 7:05 AM ET
Only 11% of 4th round draft choices and 7% of 5 th rounders play 100 games or more in the nhl. So iff the Hawks are twice as good drafters than the rest of the league, the person they draft have a less than 1 in 4 chance of having any sort of meaningful contribution in the NHL. As a GM, I hope KD sticks with I won’t trade anyone unless I get what I believe to be fair value. You still need to fill out a roster next year, and I think Lafferty is more valuable to he Hawks than a 4th or 5th round picks.

We can get those picks trading AA possibly Richardinson, maybe J Johnson, for 4th 5 th round picks.

- LAHawk


So you'd be okay with a 3rd round pick?
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