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Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 2 @ 9:13 PM ET
Dahlin in the hardest shot competition. I wonder if that was supposed to be SSTT’s spot. You know, like a plaque for the alternates is down in the ladies room type of thing.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Feb 2 @ 9:20 PM ET
Dahlin in the hardest shot competition. I wonder if that was supposed to be SSTT’s spot. You know, like a plaque for the alternates is down in the ladies room type of thing.
- Hatboro_Swords

I was really looking forward to SSTT breaking the record for hardest shot this year :/
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 2 @ 9:46 PM ET
someone posted girgens has a high IQ

he is not even sesame street smart

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 2 @ 9:51 PM ET
quinn
1 goal in last 9 games

peterks
1 assist in last 9 games

SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Feb 2 @ 9:52 PM ET
someone posted girgens has a high IQ

he is not even sesame street smart

- homiedclown

I'll need to know what RichardRoma thinks about this.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 2 @ 9:53 PM ET
someone posted girgens has a high IQ

he is not even sesame street smart

- homiedclown

Yes I said he has good Hockey IQ, I mean he knows what to do on the ice, and where to be. He just can't finish the job, he doesn't have the Hockey skills to go with it.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 2 @ 9:53 PM ET
I'll need to know what RichardRoma thinks about this.
- SABRES 89

oh my
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 2 @ 9:56 PM ET
Yes I said he has good Hockey IQ, I mean he knows what to do on the ice, and where to be. He just can't finish the job, he doesn't have the Hockey skills to go with it.
- Buff36

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 2 @ 10:03 PM ET

- homiedclown

Soon hopefully
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 2 @ 11:24 PM ET
Yes I said he has good Hockey IQ, I mean he knows what to do on the ice, and where to be. He just can't finish the job, he doesn't have the Hockey skills to go with it.
- Buff36


Who we talking about here? Sounds like an excellent add to the current Sabres team.

Maybe donnie could work with him after practice a bit?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 2 @ 11:27 PM ET
NHL marketing department blows.

I have a feeling we have seen the last of the Apple. I hear he got a new computer and doesn’t remember his password anymore and doesn’t know what email address is tied to his account.

RIP 🍎

- IndianaSabresFan


The schtick was old and lame. Like constantly posting about a 4th line plugger. Good riddance, hopefully he takes the banana too. 👊
sabrebuzz
Joined: 12.28.2008

Feb 3 @ 1:49 AM ET
Excellent Idea. However, I also the validity of the criticisms regarding time zones and aligning teams that should naturally play against each other into different conferences. So this is pure speculation at this point, this is how I would change your proposal after listening to the criticisms.

I agree with having six games played between division rivals. Really like this. However instead of four games with intra-conference teams each year, I would propose three games between each non-division team. Each team plays two games at home one year and two games away the following year. One of the things I like about this is that this is a natural tie breaker. Whoever gets the most points out of the matchup gets the step up in the standings. It works perfectly if the current 2-1 point system is continued. I think it is possible in a 3-2-1 format that there can be a tie but then you can drop down to the next tie breaker. By the way, this works best in a playoff system that allows the top eight teams into the playoffs regardless of which division they are in, though I would still make the top team in each division either the first or second seed in each conference. Helps to validate the division system and give each division equal value even if in one year here or there the top team in one divsion has fewer points that the fourth place team in the other, as an example.

This also provides 8 more games to play each of the teams in the opposing conference once each year. A team would play all the teams in one of the non-conference divisions at home, one season and then play all the teams in the other non-conference divisions at home the next. This way their fans are assured of seeing all the stars within the league in their rink at least once every other year. Why wouldn't a fan of one team want to wait four years to see McDavid and Draisaitl come in to play their team. Keeps interest in all the teams in the league. Plus, it is again a natural negative tie breaker when it comes to the draft lottery. One game, you win it, you win the tie breaker (or actually lose it in light of the fact that it is for the draft lottery). One way to not incentivize this to help teams tank is to try to play all the games in the beginning part of the schedule, say by the trade deadline. Plus, to reduce travel costs you can schedule four teams form one non-conference division in once trip and four in the next. It will require only two west/east coast trips each year.

Why do I say west/east coast trips because the major difference between my proposal and your is that we keep the divisions and conferences as they stand unless realignment is done for some other reason, such as expansion or if a team moves to a new city. I think this would sell with the NHL much better than your new realignment. Your scheduling suggestions however still work great even keeping the same divisions. Increase division rivalries and get people to go to games with teams that are nearby (and maybe go see a game at the opposing teams stadium). Better playoff format. Still maintains interest in the other division and with the entire league. And I think we still have 82 games.

6 x 7 = 42
3 x 8 = 24
1 x 16 = 16, all together 82
sabrebuzz
Joined: 12.28.2008

Feb 3 @ 3:13 AM ET
Excellent Idea. However, I also the validity of the criticisms regarding time zones and aligning teams that should naturally play against each other into different conferences. So since this is pure speculation at this point, this is how I would change your proposal after listening to the criticisms.

I agree with having six games played between division rivals. Really like this. However instead of four games with intra-conference teams each year, I would propose three games between each non-division team. Each team plays two games at home one year and two games away the following year against each team in the conference's other division. One of the things I like about this is that this is a natural tie breaker. Whoever gets the most points out of the matchup gets the step up in the standings. It works perfectly if the current 2-1 point system is continued. I think it is possible in a 3-2-1 format that there can be a tie but then you can drop down to the next tie breaker. By the way, this works best in a playoff system that allows the top eight teams into the playoffs regardless of which division they are in, though I would still make the top team in each division either the first or second seed in each conference. Helps to validate the division system and give each division equal value even if in one year here or there the top team in one divsion has fewer points that the fourth place team in the other, as an example.

This also provides 8 more games to play each of the teams in the opposing conference once each year. A team would play all the teams in one of the non-conference divisions at home, one season and then play all the teams in the other non-conference division at home the next. This way each team's fans are assured of seeing all the stars within the league in their rink at least once every other year; and at least see each team every year. Why would a fan of one team want to wait four years to see McDavid and Draisaitl come in to play their team. Keeps interest in all the teams in the league. Plus, it is again a natural negative tie breaker when it comes to the draft lottery. One game, you win it, you win the tie breaker (or actually lose it in light of the fact that it is for the draft lottery). One way to not incentivize this to help teams tank is to try to play all the nn-confernce games in the beginning part of the schedule, say by the trade deadline. Plus, to reduce travel costs you can schedule with four teams from one non-conference division in one trip and four in another. It will require only two west/east coast trips each year.

Why do I say west/east coast trips instead of north/south? Well, because the major difference between my proposal and yours is that we keep the divisions and conferences as they stand unless realignment is done for some other reason, such as expansion or if a team moves to a new city. I think this would sell with the NHL much better than your new realignment. Your scheduling suggestions however still work great even keeping the same divisions. Increase division rivalries and get people to go to games in the home rink against teams that are nearby (and maybe go see a game at the opposing teams stadium). Better, more legit, playoff format. Still maintains interest in the other division and with the entire league. And I think we still have 82 games. So, it sells with the player's union better too.

6 x 7 = 42
3 x 8 = 24
1 x 16 = 16, yup, all together 82

- sabrebuzz

ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 3 @ 8:01 AM ET
Lot of speculation with no real answers. Anecdotally, it sure seems like a lot of people here stream games rather than pay for cable.

I think a lot of people in the 20-40 range would pay to watch their home team if they could do so without paying for cable.

$12/m for a Sabre pass vs $60/m for cable that you don't watch

- Hank Balling


Answer: people have cut cable.

NHL has not found a way to be able to get local team broadcasts to people in market.

I have ESPN+, I can’t watch the Sabres on that unless I use a vpn. I shouldn’t have to do that.

Hockey is a probably the top sport where a lot of people tune in to only see their team and may catch another random game or two throughout the week if it’s on.
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Feb 3 @ 8:14 AM ET
I'll need to know what RichardRoma thinks about this.
- SABRES 89


He’s loading up his thoughts before sharing them


Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 3 @ 8:30 AM ET
Does Vegas come calling on Olofsson, with Stone about to go on LTIR they have some space and a need for a scoring winger.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 3 @ 8:34 AM ET
Answer: people have cut cable.

NHL has not found a way to be able to get local team broadcasts to people in market.

I have ESPN+, I can’t watch the Sabres on that unless I use a vpn. I shouldn’t have to do that.

Hockey is a probably the top sport where a lot of people tune in to only see their team and may catch another random game or two throughout the week if it’s on.

- ImThatGuy

the lesser value products like youtube tv does not carry bally sports

nor do they offer the nhl season ticket

times are tough and many families are trying to save a few bucks
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 3 @ 8:41 AM ET
https://www.msn.com/en-us...2cbb2413db58e83a5c60ea589
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 3 @ 8:41 AM ET
Does Vegas come calling on Olofsson, with Stone about to go on LTIR they have some space and a need for a scoring winger.
- Buff36

What are the Sabres needs these days?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 3 @ 8:42 AM ET
What are the Sabres needs these days?
- Cptmjl

Depth defensive forwards, another top 6 forward, solid top 4 RD
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 3 @ 8:46 AM ET
Depth defensive forwards, another top 6 forward, solid top 4 RD
- ImThatGuy

We have plenty of depth fwds, lack there of top 6, Mayfield? I say this knowing there’s very little chance of us trading due to our positions in the standings but it’s an interesting thought. We need some more scoring. I didn’t like the Horvat trade thought we should’ve let this season go and do a retool but we’re in it now. May as well keep going with it.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 3 @ 8:59 AM ET
someone posted girgens has a high IQ

he is not even sesame street smart

- homiedclown


"Someone"??! Lol we now not aloud to say names too along with using pronouns.
There is only one poster who says it, but even he doesn't believe it.
c2rds
Joined: 06.30.2006

Feb 3 @ 9:03 AM ET
Troy Terry is my dream pick for a deadline deal
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 3 @ 9:05 AM ET
Does Vegas come calling on Olofsson, with Stone about to go on LTIR they have some space and a need for a scoring winger.
- Buff36


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lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Feb 3 @ 9:07 AM ET
Does Vegas come calling on Olofsson, with Stone about to go on LTIR they have some space and a need for a scoring winger.
- Buff36


Gotta imagine Vegas has some hurt feelings from the Tuch trade at this point.
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