Has there ever been a player bought out before their contract began? I mean besides our "fantasy board" buying out S. Jones before his $9.5 began.
- rpeters01

If Strome reverts back to his soft and inconsistent play this season, he may be the first. But like I said all the best for him, I hated that he lacked the heart to go with some skills he had, I’m just happy he’s someone else’s problem.

That's not what i said, they got him for nothing, but you're right 50 point NHL players are worth nothing and grow on trees for the NHL
- BetweenTheDots

Hawks got Domi for nothing. I can’t see a team committing $25 million to him over 5 years, and IMO is a superior forward to Strome, with a superior resume.

Not sure if these guys are actually in the know.

https://www.google.com/ur...Vaw1oOuo6V7Szzi0uWLNPpr30

Not sure if these guys are actually in the know.

https://www.google.com/ur...Vaw1oOuo6V7Szzi0uWLNPpr30
- SaskHawkFan

Who is that guy? Any credibility? Sounds like the same heard from a guy about Toew's mystery illness 2 years ago.

Not sure if these guys are actually in the know.

https://www.google.com/ur...Vaw1oOuo6V7Szzi0uWLNPpr30
- SaskHawkFan

I don't think anyone can be certain on the futures of #88 and #19, yet.

That being said, my guess is the McCabe and Murphy and bigger trade targets than Toews and Kane.

I don’t think KD is going to retain on Mc Cabe no matter what the return. He doesn’t have to move him,
- LAHawk

I could think of a scenario KD would retain on McCabe. If he knew Toews and/or Kane were staying and he could get at least a 2nd round pick.

Not sure if these guys are actually in the know.

https://www.google.com/ur...Vaw1oOuo6V7Szzi0uWLNPpr30
- SaskHawkFan

He hosts a local hockey show on either the score or espn1000 with Pat Boyle. Outside of that, I am unaware of any team connections he has. Likely hearsay so lets see if any reputable source (TSN, etc) report something similar.

I don't think anyone can be certain on the futures of #88 and #19, yet.

That being said, my guess is the McCabe and Murphy and bigger trade targets than Toews and Kane.
- DarthKane

Disagree. Not if the Hawks retain 50% of the salary, which they will.

Kane is still a premier top 6 player who can put a team over the top.

Toews is a perfect addition to a team looking for center depth and a position that is 100% needed for long cup runs.

Think McCabe would come in 3rd in this group of 4

Then Murphy

Also are forgetting guys like 89 and Domi who were signed specifically to be flipped at the deadline in hopes that increased ice time would puff up their stats and make them more attractive.

Should be a very busy deadline for KD....and when I talk about 19/88 I am assuming both waive. I get that IS the biggest variable to them. if they want to go there will 100% be a market for both.

Disagree. Not if the Hawks retain 50% of the salary, which they will.

Kane is still a premier top 6 player who can put a team over the top.

Toews is a perfect addition to a team looking for center depth and a position that is 100% needed for long cup runs.

Think McCabe would come in 3rd in this group of 4

Then Murphy

Also are forgetting guys like 89 and Domi who were signed specifically to be flipped at the deadline in hopes that increased ice time would puff up their stats and make them more attractive.

Should be a very busy deadline for KD....and when I talk about 19/88 I am assuming both waive. I get that IS the biggest variable to them. if they want to go there will 100% be a market for both.
- SteveRain

Domi i think will garner alot of interest. he's having a really good season on a bad team.

Domi i think will garner alot of interest. he's having a really good season on a bad team.
- SaskHawkFan

Agreed...perfect guy to slot in ideally on line 3, but can float up in case of an injury.

Who is that guy? Any credibility? Sounds like the same heard from a guy about Toew's mystery illness 2 years ago.
- Popsghostly

not sure it popped into my news feed.

Agreed...perfect guy to slot in ideally on line 3, but can float up in case of an injury.
- SteveRain

i can imagine Winnipeg will have interest. Edmonton, Colorado, Dallas. The bit of Grit he brings and his faceoff ability just might get us a few nice pieces.

Disagree. Not if the Hawks retain 50% of the salary, which they will.

Kane is still a premier top 6 player who can put a team over the top.

Toews is a perfect addition to a team looking for center depth and a position that is 100% needed for long cup runs.

Think McCabe would come in 3rd in this group of 4

Then Murphy

Also are forgetting guys like 89 and Domi who were signed specifically to be flipped at the deadline in hopes that increased ice time would puff up their stats and make them more attractive.

Should be a very busy deadline for KD....and when I talk about 19/88 I am assuming both waive. I get that IS the biggest variable to them. if they want to go there will 100% be a market for both.
- SteveRain

Kane has some injury rumors. So that may lessen his attractiveness/value.
Toews is good 2nd/3rd center insurance and has value.
Domi, McCabe, Lafferty, Raddysh have some value. But could be part of transition core if the offers suck.
Murphy IDK.
AA not so much. For $3 mil I think teams can do better.
Johnson(s), Mitchell nope.

Kane has some injury rumors. So that may lessen his attractiveness/value.
Toews is good 2nd/3rd center insurance and has value.
Domi, McCabe, Lafferty, Raddysh have some value. But could be part of transition core if the offers suck.
Murphy IDK.
AA not so much. For $3 mil I think teams can do better.
Johnson(s), Mitchell nope.
- -Doh-

I heard Chelios on the score earlier this week and he said when he waived his NTC, he was dealt in 3 days.

That was then, and this was now...but these things don't seem to be as complicated as we think they are from the outside looking in.

i can imagine Winnipeg will have interest. Edmonton, Colorado, Dallas. The bit of Grit he brings and his faceoff ability just might get us a few nice pieces.
- SaskHawkFan

Would love to see him and Toews go there, but Jets would need to free up some money.

Kane has some injury rumors. So that may lessen his attractiveness/value.
Toews is good 2nd/3rd center insurance and has value.
Domi, McCabe, Lafferty, Raddysh have some value. But could be part of transition core if the offers suck.
Murphy IDK.
AA not so much. For $3 mil I think teams can do better.
Johnson(s), Mitchell nope.
- -Doh-

I guess for me.....are any guys on this team right now going to still be here when the Hawks do start to enter a contender status again? Maybe Jones because of his deal? Anyone else?

I like Raddysh and can see the timidness not to deal him. However, where do most of these guys legit slot in when this team is good? Most of the guys getting top 6 minutes are 100% likely more role players so where does one put their expectation level at for a return?

Given what a crap shoot drafts are, I would prefer KD get a mixed bag of prospects and picks. THe more picks, the more chances he has to hit....

I am going yo suggest a different idea on the Kane and Toews outcome. Perhaps someone has mentioned this but I missed the commentary

Say Kane and Toews are not traded at the trade deadline. At least two current teamattes are dealt, one being either McCabe or Murphy..Eventually enough kids earn an NHL job then the other dman is traded

The significance of moving two ayers fir two draft choices is that those picks could be packaged in separate trades. One with Kane and the other with Toews.

Davidson would want a first round '23 in Kane trade and a first round in '24 for Toews.

Now it may be too much value given up for first round selections. ThereforeI am merely presenting an idea with the particular renumeration not given - just included in trades are the pieces I mentioned

Davidson wants to try to obtain as many quality draft choices as possible because he needs to draft players who.wpuld develop into first line players or top players at their position.

I hesitate to suggest asking for another team's top prospect and we don't profit to receive their "B" level prospects.

Teams loosing a '23 # 1 and even a #1 '24 will not want to also loose a top prospect. And Davidson would have to be darn sure another team's better prospects is a sure fire NHL projection as a very good talent. Nah, I don't envision prosoects already drafted as part of a trade.

Retaining salary coukd be part of a trade.

Davidson would do well to wind up with two top 12 draft choices, although obtaining a second selection at #12 is expecting too much in reality. Nonetheless, it coukd happen.

I wish somehow only we could move into the number one overall (if we don't win the lottery) but using Kane and Toews for a first later than the #12 overall is more likely.

I don’t think KD is going to retain on Mc Cabe no matter what the return. He doesn’t have to move him,
- LAHawk

I think if he is offered a 2023 1st he might reconsider but agree with you .

I guess for me.....are any guys on this team right now going to still be here when the Hawks do start to enter a contender status again? Maybe Jones because of his deal? Anyone else?

I like Raddysh and can see the timidness not to deal him. However, where do most of these guys legit slot in when this team is good? Most of the guys getting top 6 minutes are 100% likely more role players so where does one put their expectation level at for a return?

Given what a crap shoot drafts are, I would prefer KD get a mixed bag of prospects and picks. THe more picks, the more chances he has to hit....
- SteveRain

Kurashev

Would love to see him and Toews go there, but Jets would need to free up some money.
- SteveRain

According to capgeek they will have just under 10 million at the deadline. If the hawks retain on both they could fit them.

He hosts a local hockey show on either the score or espn1000 with Pat Boyle. Outside of that, I am unaware of any team connections he has. Likely hearsay so lets see if any reputable source (TSN, etc) report something similar.
- SteveRain

Blogger at Barstool Sports

Hawks got Domi for nothing. I can’t see a team committing $25 million to him over 5 years, and IMO is a superior forward to Strome, with a superior resume.
- LAHawk

Well IMO if he can't get anything for Domi then maybe he's in over his head. Since he couldn't get anything for Strome or Kubalik

and let's be honest you couldn't see anybody committing $25 mil to Strome last year

Well IMO if he can't get anything for Domi then maybe he's in over his head. Since he couldn't get anything for Strome or Kubalik

and let's be honest you couldn't see anybody committing $25 mil to Strome last year
- BetweenTheDots

I still don’t see it. Yup Kubalik, after his hot start had worked himself to 4th line minutes with Blackhawk legend P. Suter.

Watching Minnesota-Duluth, what a beautiful skater Kaiser is. My guess is KD signs him to his ELC after UMD season is over and goes to Rockford.

Watching Minnesota-Duluth, what a beautiful skater Kaiser is. My guess is KD signs him to his ELC after UMD season is over and goes to Rockfo
- LAHawk

Speed is the game now. Our stable of D prospects is exciting!