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rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Feb 3 @ 11:56 AM ET
If the Capitals were a stock I’d be shorting it after this announcement. Soft as putty guy getting five for five is wild.
- ObeseOprah

That's a lot of $ for a guy worth a 4th round pick.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Feb 3 @ 12:00 PM ET
If the Capitals were a stock I’d be shorting it after this announcement. Soft as putty guy getting five for five is wild.
- ObeseOprah


They have 9 players signed and $63m committed, and only 1 defenseman. How is that going to work going forward?

The team is ancient. Strome is their youngest forward at 25.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Feb 3 @ 12:00 PM ET
When did Stan become their GM?
- rpeters01


Couldn't have been Stan. Early indications no NTC or NMC included.

But good for him signing for the big bucks.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Feb 3 @ 12:10 PM ET
They have 9 players signed and $63m committed, and only 1 defenseman. How is that going to work going forward?

The team is ancient. Strome is their youngest forward at 25.

- LAHawk


And Carlson coming off LTIR is their only signed defenseman for next year, although they have control over two younger D who will be RFA's.

They probably have to unload Mantha and Tom Wilson (7 team no trade list next year). There's 11 million. If Hawks fortunate enough to land Bedard, Wilson would be a good addition here.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Feb 3 @ 12:13 PM ET
Wow! So the Hawks let him walk and he signs a 5X$5M contract. Crazy! But good for him.
- Angotti

I’m curious now that he’s not having to prove himself will he play to the same level that allowed him to get that contract? As you say, good for him, I’m just happy he got it playing for another team.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 3 @ 12:14 PM ET
If the Capitals were a stock I’d be shorting it after this announcement. Soft as putty guy getting five for five is wild.
- ObeseOprah


And it cost them zero draft capital to sign him to a one year deal as a try out. Good for the kid, his best years are still in front of him
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Feb 3 @ 12:24 PM ET
And it cost them zero draft capital to sign him to a one year deal as a try out. Good for the kid, his best years are still in front of him
- BetweenTheDots


So 50 pointish forwards who cannot play defense are now worth $5 mil? Think ADB is going to take less than $10 mil.?

How much would Kane be willing to sign for for s chance to win a cup if he is traded without an extension?
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Feb 3 @ 12:26 PM ET
I’m curious now that he’s not having to prove himself will he play to the same level that allowed him to get that contract? As you say, good for him, I’m just happy he got it playing for another team.
- paulr



100%...my thought on this. Just wait until year 2 or year 3 when he's fat and happy and complacent and that fan base is losing their minds.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 3 @ 12:30 PM ET
And Carlson coming off LTIR is their only signed defenseman for next year, although they have control over two younger D who will be RFA's.

They probably have to unload Mantha and Tom Wilson (7 team no trade list next year). There's 11 million. If Hawks fortunate enough to land Bedard, Wilson would be a good addition here.

- boilermaker100

He is making $5,166 mil the rest of this year and next. Then UFA. If the Caps move him it will probably be to a contender that will overpay. One thing about Wilson.... With his style of play he has missed about 30% of the games since the beginning of the 2018/19 season. His body might wear out earlier than most.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Feb 3 @ 12:33 PM ET
And Carlson coming off LTIR is their only signed defenseman for next year, although they have control over two younger D who will be RFA's.

They probably have to unload Mantha and Tom Wilson (7 team no trade list next year). There's 11 million. If Hawks fortunate enough to land Bedard, Wilson would be a good addition here.

- boilermaker100

I'm waiting for the Caps to announce a new deal for Erik Gustafsson at the same numbers as Strome got. Then you know they have lost their minds.

I'd look for Lars Eller to move on replaced by Strome and who knows how long Nik Backstrom can play with his new hips. That team is heading for where the Hawks live right now.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Feb 3 @ 12:35 PM ET
So 50 pointish forwards who cannot play defense are now worth $5 mil? Think ADB is going to take less than $10 mil.?

How much would Kane be willing to sign for for s chance to win a cup if he is traded without an extension?

- LAHawk



No idea there...so many variables...he could do a team a solid and sign for less but would NHLPA want him to discount and not help maintain higher salaries for guys like him Ovechkin, Malkin, Crosby as they age out...so next waive like McKinnon, Maker, and McDavid can get a benchmark?

Too many wheels here in motion.

i think IF Kane were to extend or sign on somewhere that's it. I can't see him bouncing around with his young family. Where on the flip side I could 100% see Toews chasing cups until he's done.

Still think there's a decent chance Kane ends up back here this summer after being traded to help guide the next wave of kids, and chase team records.....and could easily see Davidson getting him a legit player to be paired with to help sell tickets, and hit the cap floor.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Feb 3 @ 12:37 PM ET
I'm waiting for the Caps to announce a new deal for Erik Gustafsson at the same numbers as Strome got. Then you know they have lost their minds.

I'd look for Lars Eller to move on replaced by Strome and who knows how long Nik Backstrom can play with his new hips. That team is heading for where the Hawks live right now.

- RickJ



Whenever the great eight hits his record they are going to be detonate that team.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Feb 3 @ 12:39 PM ET
He is making $5,166 mil the rest of this year and next. Then UFA. If the Caps move him it will probably be to a contender that will overpay. One thing about Wilson.... With his style of play he has missed about 30% of the games since the beginning of the 2018/19 season. His body might wear out earlier than most.
- -Doh-


Good points. Lots here on this board concerned about the team making the cap floor next year. Taking on a big contract for a serviceable player is one way. I wouldn't pay much for him in a trade, possibly future considerations if Washington gets really desparate. He'll be out of the conference if traded to a Western team. Let's say Hawks somehow land him. If healthy then they can flip him next TDL to a contender.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 3 @ 12:41 PM ET
Holy merde, Dylan Strome extended by the Caps 5 x $5M

https://twitter.com/Kevin...tatus/1621539774795317248

- MartiniMan

Probably about right for a decent 25 year old slow 2nd line center.
0.7 pts per game
A minus 7 on a good team.
14 of his 36 points are with Ovechkin on the PP.
He will be 31 at the end of the contract.
A little gamble by Strome and a little gamble by the Caps.
My prediction is that he is traded before the end of this contract.

boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Feb 3 @ 12:47 PM ET
Whenever the great eight hits his record they are going to be detonate that team.
- SteveRain


...with Strome getting the primary assists on OV's record tying and breaking goals.

So are the Caps going all in this year before entering cap hell?

It's been mentioned they are light on signed defenseman next year. Would they need a certain veteran LD (2M retained) for the stretch run and the next two years?

Do they need a RW to play alongside a former linemate center and OVI?


LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Feb 3 @ 12:52 PM ET
...with Strome getting the primary assists on OV's record tying and breaking goals.

So are the Caps going all in this year before entering cap hell?

It's been mentioned they are light on signed defenseman next year. Would they need a certain veteran LD (2M retained) for the stretch run and the next two years?

Do they need a RW to play alongside a former linemate center and OVI?

- boilermaker100


I don’t think KD is going to retain on Mc Cabe no matter what the return. He doesn’t have to move him,
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 3 @ 12:53 PM ET
Holy merde, Dylan Strome extended by the Caps 5 x $5M

https://twitter.com/Kevin...tatus/1621539774795317248

- MartiniMan



Make a note of the date and watch for the decline in Strome's performance.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 3 @ 12:56 PM ET
I don’t think KD is going to retain on Mc Cabe no matter what the return. He doesn’t have to move him,
- LAHawk


I think KD is going to shock the hockey world at the TDL and become a buyer. KD is finally turning heel and going full SB!

via GIPHY

wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Feb 3 @ 1:04 PM ET
Holy merde, Dylan Strome extended by the Caps 5 x $5M

https://twitter.com/Kevin...tatus/1621539774795317248

- MartiniMan




I was coming here specifically to post that...

I guess he isn't that slow.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Feb 3 @ 1:09 PM ET
I’m curious now that he’s not having to prove himself will he play to the same level that allowed him to get that contract? As you say, good for him, I’m just happy he got it playing for another team.
- paulr

He's got 11 goals, 36 points in 52 games if you call that proving himself. 14pts on the powerplay he's getting big opportunities.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Feb 3 @ 1:26 PM ET
I don’t think KD is going to retain on Mc Cabe no matter what the return. He doesn’t have to move him,
- LAHawk


If Kane and Toews don't waive, KD realizes he won't be getting certain assets, high picks and/or prospects, back for them at the TDL. He still has to rebuild the farm system. He then may trade McCabe to help acquire said assets. I doubt if he gets a 1st as some pundits predict even with retention. If KD is satisfied with an offer, McCabe will be gone. Moving McCabe will also open up a LD spot next year for the myriad of defensemen listed here yesterday.
333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.04.2015

Feb 3 @ 1:34 PM ET
If the Capitals were a stock I’d be shorting it after this announcement. Soft as putty guy getting five for five is wild.
- ObeseOprah


Between that and the aging roster, definitely a short here.

Everyone saw the same movie last year, as evidenced by the Hawks not being bowled over by any offers at that deadline. Are there really no centers available this summer, for them to make this deal?
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Feb 3 @ 1:48 PM ET
He's got 11 goals, 36 points in 52 games if you call that proving himself. 14pts on the powerplay he's getting big opportunities.
- rpeters01

Good point, I guess Washington’s requirements of a player to prove himself are low? Be interesting to see if he can play well enough to keep the fan base happy and to avoid a buyout.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 3 @ 2:15 PM ET
So 50 pointish forwards who cannot play defense are now worth $5 mil? Think ADB is going to take less than $10 mil.?

How much would Kane be willing to sign for for s chance to win a cup if he is traded without an extension?

- LAHawk


That's not what i said, they got him for nothing, but you're right 50 point NHL players are worth nothing and grow on trees for the NHL
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Feb 3 @ 2:18 PM ET
Good point, I guess Washington’s requirements of a player to prove himself are low? Be interesting to see if he can play well enough to keep the fan base happy and to avoid a buyout.
- paulr

Has there ever been a player bought out before their contract began? I mean besides our "fantasy board" buying out S. Jones before his $9.5 began.
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