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mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jan 30 @ 9:31 AM ET
I understand this. I certainly do. I am by no means saying there is a solution and I'm not saying they would or have to change anything. Maybe it currently doesn't make sense. I am suggesting I wouldn't be against the league reviewing current video review procedures. I also wouldn't get all up in arms if nothing changes because sometimes it doesn't make sense.

I will say one thing, someone brought up tennis being almost completely done by video review so why can't other leagues adopt similar things for certain calls? Why can't we electronically mark where the ball was? Or in hockey, have sensors along the blue lines with other sensors in skates/puck to determine offsides or even goals for the puck over the line or not. Sometimes they are close.

Again, maybe it's not good enough technology yet to do such things but I wouldn't be opposed to similar suggestions or changes.

- Aaron_85


Tennis does not have any gray calls. Everything is black or white. The NHL/NFL/MLB/NBA have refs that make judgement calls. I am all for getting the black and white calls correct. Example: MLB with balls and strikes. Anything that can help the refs make the right call without stopping the game I am all for it. I am not for endlessly reviewing play after play.

The refs in all of those leagues do a good job until your team gets a call against them. If looked at objectively, I think most refs are pretty good at there job.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 30 @ 9:34 AM ET
Or perhaps the best defense in the league became exhausted cause their meager offense couldn't sustain any drives with a 4th stringer manning the ship. The Eagles were basically handed 14 points that swung all the momentum their way. The blown call on 4th down and then the 4th stringer being unable to handle a simple snap cause he doesn't even belong in the NFL let alone a championship game. Again, lots of breaks for the Birds, but that's what it takes I guess.
- Phillywhiteout


The Eagles were not handed anything. They earned everything in that game.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 30 @ 9:35 AM ET
With the 14th pick in this year's draft, the Philadelphia Flyers select Riley Heidt, forward, Price George Cougars. 180lbs, versatile forward, might be ready for a bottom 6 role with the Flyers in about 4 years.
- jd250



This is very deep draft. Reminiscent of 2015…or even 2003. If you have a moment review those 2. There are solid players/prospects into the 2nd round of this upcoming draft. If the lottery balls fall the way they should the Flyers will pick somewhere fro 7-12….they need to hit. To me, if you are not getting a top 4 in this draft then it’s much more important to see the continued growth from 6 or 7 current young guys then worry about a draft pick that won’t be here for 3 years. Time for everyone to see it….Flyers are not that bad….they aren’t great or even good but they just aren’t bad enough for a Bedard this year.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 30 @ 9:37 AM ET
Come on dude, take off the green glasses. Go look at a replay of that incomplete pass/fumble. That guy wasn't taking that ball back to the house. There were two Niners right there and he would have been tackled immediately anyway. And please don't tell me that the 4th liner QB playing didn't have a major influence on the outcome of the game. The Niners basically played this game without an NFL QB which rendered their talented offensive roster useless. QB's and goalies in hockey. Two most important positions in sports. No way around it. I mean, just look at the Birds. They lost their two games without their starting QB and they were only down to their second string QB.
- Phillywhiteout


Why was the 4th string QB in the game?
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 30 @ 9:39 AM ET
Tippet looks like he may be solid complimentary type player. Which is fine.
- hello it's me 2050


I think he looks like a 30 goal 60 pt winger who uses his size pretty good. His vision is above average….he makes two or three passes each game that make you take notice….he’s been one of the better outcomes this year to their many question marks.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jan 30 @ 9:40 AM ET
This is very deep draft. Reminiscent of 2015…or even 2003. If you have a moment review those 2. There are solid players/prospects into the 2nd round of this upcoming draft. If the lottery balls fall the way they should the Flyers will pick somewhere fro 7-12….they need to hit. To me, if you are not getting a top 4 in this draft then it’s much more important to see the continued growth from 6 or 7 current young guys then worry about a draft pick that won’t be here for 3 years. Time for everyone to see it….Flyers are not that bad….they aren’t great or even good but they just aren’t bad enough for a Bedard this year.
- landros 2
I think the Flyers will finish 8th from the bottom after looking at the standings yesterday and they should get a half decent player depending on those damn ping pong balls.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jan 30 @ 9:42 AM ET
The Eagles were not handed anything. They earned everything in that game.
- MJL
I didn't say that the Eagles were handed anything. I just said that lots of things went their way. I just wanted to see a good game and once the QB went down that game was ova.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jan 30 @ 9:42 AM ET
Why was the 4th string QB in the game?
- MJL
Cause the Niner's coaching staff didn't do their homework on protection schemes.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 30 @ 9:43 AM ET
Wow, one offensive lineman playing with an injury. The Niners were down to their FOURTH string QB. Cincy was playing without their two best offensive lineman. KC's QB was basically playing on one leg yesterday and was basically down to 2 WR's by the end of the game. The Eagles have been by far the healthiest team this year. Becomes a battle of attrition and they are winning that battle along with getting some serious breaks.
- Phillywhiteout


They also had a 3rd string QB who was 8-0. That’s a pretty “charnmed” existence.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jan 30 @ 9:48 AM ET
No it's not. The Eagles did not break any rules.
- MJL


Sure I misspoke. Cheating isn't the right word for it.
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jan 30 @ 9:48 AM ET
Why was the 4th string QB in the game?
- MJL


no, no, once Purdy was hurt they should have re-scheduled the game
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 30 @ 9:48 AM ET
Or perhaps the best defense in the league became exhausted cause their meager offense couldn't sustain any drives with a 4th stringer manning the ship. The Eagles were basically handed 14 points that swung all the momentum their way. The blown call on 4th down and then the 4th stringer being unable to handle a simple snap cause he doesn't even belong in the NFL let alone a championship game. Again, lots of breaks for the Birds, but that's what it takes I guess.
- Phillywhiteout


Even after the blown call on 4th down….they had the game tied. (Probably because a couple of call the other way)….they just imploded. The 49ers did have some miss fortune and you don’t win versus good teams when that happens. But that’s football.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jan 30 @ 9:50 AM ET
Tennis does not have any gray calls. Everything is black or white. The NHL/NFL/MLB/NBA have refs that make judgement calls. I am all for getting the black and white calls correct. Example: MLB with balls and strikes. Anything that can help the refs make the right call without stopping the game I am all for it. I am not for endlessly reviewing play after play.

The refs in all of those leagues do a good job until your team gets a call against them. If looked at objectively, I think most refs are pretty good at there job.

- mickel25


Oh I agree on the black and white stuff. You can't easily call interference in the NHL with technology.

As I've said. Maybe its not possible right now but I am not opposed to leagues trying things out and seeing how it goes. They usually do so in the minors first.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 30 @ 9:50 AM ET
100%.

I know Dawkins is up there for a lot of people and obviously Kelce as far as all-time favorite Eagles go, but Johnson might be mine. Guy is quietly putting together a HOF resume and has played through a ton of adversity in his career. His value to this team is shown in the Eagles record with him and without him in the lineup.

- TobyFlenderson


Best tackle in football…(right or left)….hasn’t allowed a sack since 2020. That’s incredible. That guy is one tough dude.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jan 30 @ 9:52 AM ET
Oh I agree on the black and white stuff. You can't easily call interference in the NHL with technology.

As I've said. Maybe its not possible right now but I am not opposed to leagues trying things out and seeing how it goes. They usually do so in the minors first.

- Aaron_85


Interference is not called enough in the NHL.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 30 @ 9:53 AM ET
Sure I misspoke. Cheating isn't the right word for it.
- Aaron_85


Probably the “filter”…
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 30 @ 9:54 AM ET
I didn't say that the Eagles were handed anything. I just said that lots of things went their way. I just wanted to see a good game and once the QB went down that game was ova.
- Phillywhiteout


Most of the things that went their way was due to what they did.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 30 @ 9:55 AM ET
Cause the Niner's coaching staff didn't do their homework on protection schemes.
- Phillywhiteout


The Niners coaching staff was just plain stupid with their protection schemes.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jan 30 @ 9:56 AM ET
Best tackle in football…(right or left)….hasn’t allowed a sack since 2020. That’s incredible. That guy is one tough dude.
- landros 2


Chip Kelly pick
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 30 @ 10:00 AM ET
I think he looks like a 30 goal 60 pt winger who uses his size pretty good. His vision is above average….he makes two or three passes each game that make you take notice….he’s been one of the better outcomes this year to their many question marks.
- landros 2

Don't see it. Team is still stuck in neutral at best. Don't see the light at the end of this long tunnel as of yet.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 30 @ 10:03 AM ET
This is very deep draft. Reminiscent of 2015…or even 2003. If you have a moment review those 2. There are solid players/prospects into the 2nd round of this upcoming draft. If the lottery balls fall the way they should the Flyers will pick somewhere fro 7-12….they need to hit. To me, if you are not getting a top 4 in this draft then it’s much more important to see the continued growth from 6 or 7 current young guys then worry about a draft pick that won’t be here for 3 years. Time for everyone to see it….Flyers are not that bad….they aren’t great or even good but they just aren’t bad enough for a Bedard this year.
- landros 2

The flyers are middling team and franchise. Stuck in neutral. They are far away from being contenders. The Teams in their division are not going any where for the most part. Rangers Hurricanes and NJ they are far behind. Columbus has better future imo. Maybe on 3 years they surpass the caps and pens.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 30 @ 10:14 AM ET
This is very deep draft. Reminiscent of 2015…or even 2003. If you have a moment review those 2. There are solid players/prospects into the 2nd round of this upcoming draft. If the lottery balls fall the way they should the Flyers will pick somewhere fro 7-12….they need to hit. To me, if you are not getting a top 4 in this draft then it’s much more important to see the continued growth from 6 or 7 current young guys then worry about a draft pick that won’t be here for 3 years. Time for everyone to see it….Flyers are not that bad….they aren’t great or even good but they just aren’t bad enough for a Bedard this year.
- landros 2

This post was just a joke on my part. I really do get both sides of the argument. One side is tank all you can for a superstar player at the top of the draft and build around that player. The problem is one player does not make a team, and if you bring that player into a losing culture with no talent around them all you have is a superstar player playing on a crappy team. On the other side, the Flyers have good players that are learning how to win games, but no game-breaking talent, and we know that teams need both game breaking talent and a solid team around those players if they want to win a cup. The problem is the best way to get game breaking players is to draft high. Yes, there a good players all over the draft board, but the odds of getting them are small the lower you pick in the draft. As much as I pick on Hextall for his moves, I can say the same thing about a lot of GMs past and present. As for me, I really don't know what the Flyers will do. I have no confidence they have a plan and will stick to it, but instead will continue to wing it as they have. That means in my mind there is as good a chance the Flyers buy than sell this trade deadline and how awful would that be? I sincerely hope Fletcher sells all he can at the deadline, brings up more kids and lets the season play out as it does. But does anyone really know with this guy?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 30 @ 10:15 AM ET
The flyers are middling team and franchise. Stuck in neutral. They are far away from being contenders. The Teams in their division are not going any where for the most part. Rangers Hurricanes and NJ they are far behind. Columbus has better future imo. Maybe on 3 years they surpass the caps and pens.
- hello it's me 2050

The Hurricanes are impressive and next to the Bruins I think are the best team in the league. I watched the Canes hand Boston their 3rd defeat in a row yesterday, a convincing win for sure.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 30 @ 10:17 AM ET
This post was just a joke on my part. I really do get both sides of the argument. One side is tank all you can for a superstar player at the top of the draft and build around that player. The problem is one player does not make a team, and if you bring that player into a losing culture with no talent around them all you have is a superstar player playing on a crappy team. On the other side, the Flyers have good players that are learning how to win games, but no game-breaking talent, and we know that teams need both game breaking talent and a solid team around those players if they want to win a cup. The problem is the best way to get game breaking players is to draft high. Yes, there a good players all over the draft board, but the odds of getting them are small the lower you pick in the draft. As much as I pick on Hextall for his moves, I can say the same thing about a lot of GMs past and present. As for me, I really don't know what the Flyers will do. I have no confidence they have a plan and will stick to it, but instead will continue to wing it as they have. That means in my mind there is as good a chance the Flyers buy than sell this trade deadline and how awful would that be? I sincerely hope Fletcher sells all he can at the deadline, brings up more kids and lets the season play out as it does. But does anyone really know with this guy?
- jd250



There is always the possibility of a hockey trade at the deadline but the Flyers will not be buyers. It would take a miracle run for them to make the playoffs.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jan 30 @ 10:20 AM ET
There is always the possibility of a hockey trade at the deadline but the Flyers will not be buyers. It would take a miracle run for them to make the playoffs.
- MJL


I think you underestimate Chuckles.
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