maybe move mine up to 8 years as well. Lou just always seems to get them signed for less than what the market is.
- Peter Richards

he isn't going to take a discount money wise imo. Time will tell.

Not sure on the draft capital….but more or less a slow developing prospect like a Tippet or Bellows….not a “A” prospect ….but a failed “A” or a B type….then maybe a 2 or a 3rd rnd pick. I just hope JVR continues to play well and stays healthy. That just my opinion.
- landros 2

Big difference as far as failed prospects go between Tippett and Bellows, bellows played himself into being waived and Tippett really couldn’t find consistency or consistent playing time on a good offense team. Highly doubt you get a Tippett slow roller type guy but you never know

Big difference as far as failed prospects go between Tippett and Bellows, bellows played himself into being waived and Tippett really couldn’t find consistency or consistent playing time on a good offense team. Highly doubt you get a Tippett slow roller type guy but you never know
- ClaudeFather

The big difference between Tippett-- all the tools but lacked consistency -- and Bellows -- great hands but below average feet-- is that one dealt with more of a confidence/mental hurdle and the other a significant hole in his ability to master the pace of the NHL game.

The Bruins were linked to Horvat, however the Bruins do not need him this year, but will need him next year and beyond. The Islanders gave up a lot for Horvat as a rental, but I don't see Horvat extending with the Islanders with a team like the Bruins interested in him. In the end, the Bruins will need big help at center next year.
- jd250

This makes zero sense based on your previous opinions. How do you reconcile this with your opinion that the Flyers can retain salary and Boston to take Hayes at the deadline? They don't need Horvat this year but they need Hayes?

I am with you 100%. Be so silly to bring hi back. Just do not think it is that outlandish is all.

Would JVR and 3rd/solid prospect get you a 1st in the 25-32 range? Even in a future draft?
- hello it's me 2050

you would have to have a team they really needed him. I am not sure how much more a late first is worth than a mid 3rd. I think if they could get a 1st and move a prospect that would make sense for the Flyers. The Flyers could go bigger, like you said par up JVR, maybe even a Zamula. If there is a team that needs JVR and D depth for a run. I do think the Flyers system has recovered a good bit, where they can deal and reshape the group a little

if you say so. Bottom line is unless you can prove otherwise this was the best deal they could get at the time.
- hello it's me 2050

Yes. I just think any other team could have matched it quite easily. Vancouver even retained 1.3 million in salary

The big difference between Tippett-- all the tools but lacked consistency -- and Bellows -- great hands but below average feet-- is that one dealt with more of a confidence/mental hurdle and the other a significant hole in his ability to master the pace of the NHL game.
- bmeltzer

yeah, as soon as I saw Bellows play his foot speed stood out, Tip has the tools, a 5 tool player if you will, looking forward to seeing Tip at 25. I will say Bellows looked much better vs Jets, he skated well, do you know if he has been really focused on that, while sitting?

The big difference between Tippett-- all the tools but lacked consistency -- and Bellows -- great hands but below average feet-- is that one dealt with more of a confidence/mental hurdle and the other a significant hole in his ability to master the pace of the NHL game.
- bmeltzer

Right, one guy was still a legit prospect, the other more so proved he couldn’t hang

The big difference between Tippett-- all the tools but lacked consistency -- and Bellows -- great hands but below average feet-- is that one dealt with more of a confidence/mental hurdle and the other a significant hole in his ability to master the pace of the NHL game.
- bmeltzer

makes sense with the waiver claim. otherwise why would they risk it.

Right, one guy was still a legit prospect, the other more so proved he couldn’t hang
- ClaudeFather

The Flyers should still be playing Bellows. Why claim a player and then not look at him?

Lou is one of the best imo with this. I agree that horvat will be with the isles. guessing 7 x 6.5 mil.
- Peter Richards

Imo you won’t get him for less than $ 8 Mil. Think Hertl’s contract.

The Flyers should still be playing Bellows. Why claim a player and then not look at him?
- MJL

Maybe similar to Tampa trading for Myers, signing him, then waiving him to go to the ahl. Bellows has played and practiced with the flyers. now that he is with the team, maybe the concerns of why NYI waived him are easier to understand.

edit--he is also a USA player from Minnie, Chuck loves these guys. Maybe he remembers looking at him at the 2016 draft

The Flyers should still be playing Bellows. Why claim a player and then not look at him?
- MJL

Can’t disagree there. That’s another topic though. They aren’t scratching ND, Brown seems to be a staple, as was Mac before injury. Maybe post deadline if a couple people are moved out he gets an extended look

The Flyers should still be playing Bellows. Why claim a player and then not look at him?
- MJL

… because, Flyers.

Can’t disagree there. That’s another topic though. They aren’t scratching ND, Brown seems to be a staple, as was Mac before injury. Maybe post deadline if a couple people are moved out he gets an extended look
- ClaudeFather

The Flyers love to play players who when they're on the ice, the other team scores 65-70% of the goals. Bellows might not be any better but he had the skill to make him a first rounder. Play him and see what he's got.

… because, Flyers.
- mikeyo27

because...Torts

The Flyers love to play players who when they're on the ice, the other team scores 65-70% of the goals. Bellows might not be any better but he had the skill to make him a first rounder. Play him and see what he's got.
- MJL

What is interesting is when you look up his various scouting reports before he was drafted, they all say he is a strong skater.

What is interesting is when you look up his various scouting reports before he was drafted, they all say he is a strong skater.
- MBFlyerfan

he was a strong goal scorer before, but his AHL numbers don't exactly jump out either.

The Flyers should still be playing Bellows. Why claim a player and then not look at him?
- MJL

I hope while he was sitting, like 11 games? They had him working on his skating. During the season you really can't work on things, you struggle to keep weight etc. I am not saying that was their thought, but if there could be a silver lining that could be a small one

What is interesting is when you look up his various scouting reports before he was drafted, they all say he is a strong skater.
- MBFlyerfan

But no one ever accused him of being a fast skater. By strong they are alluding to stride and recovery.

But no one ever accused him of being a fast skater. By strong they are alluding to stride and recovery.
- Minnyhock

Moot point now, but rememeber that year he was one of the players on my radar for us to draft due to his scoring. traded back and took rubstov. fast forward, german never panned out and now we have bellows.

The big difference between Tippett-- all the tools but lacked consistency -- and Bellows -- great hands but below average feet-- is that one dealt with more of a confidence/mental hurdle and the other a significant hole in his ability to master the pace of the NHL game.
- bmeltzer

Tanner still hurt Bill?