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Peter Richards
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 30 @ 1:38 PM ET
Drew doughty #2 overall, Norris trophy, first ballot hall of famer. Do you think that guy helped?
- ClaudeFather


They had a lot of just first round picks in general on that team as well.

Kopitar, Carter, Richie, Doughty, Brown, J Will, Gaborik, Gagne, Voynov

Pearson

and good role players as well.
Dkos
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jan 30 @ 1:42 PM ET
Outside of Kings, Two outliers are ST Louis who caught fire in a bottle and Boston the hands down best organization in the league
- ClaudeFather


caught fire in a bottle?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 30 @ 1:50 PM ET
caught fire in a bottle?
- Dkos

Lightning lol same thing
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 30 @ 2:03 PM ET
It’s all in the passed right?
- ClaudeFather

whoa
Dkos
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jan 30 @ 2:10 PM ET
Lightning lol same thing
- ClaudeFather


Sorry...made me chuckle a little. I know we're not supposed to comment on grammar and spelling and stuff. I understood what you were trying to say. I always liked Norm Crosby (if you're old enough to remember him).The Sopranos were good for malapropism (malaprops?) too... "revenge is like serving cold cuts"
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jan 30 @ 2:12 PM ET
I'm no longer deleting the personal jabs, bans are next. Have your fun in PMs.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 30 @ 2:21 PM ET
Sorry...made me chuckle a little. I know we're not supposed to comment on grammar and spelling and stuff. I understood what you were trying to say. I always liked Norm Crosby (if you're old enough to remember him).The Sopranos were good for malapropism (malaprops?) too... "revenge is like serving cold cuts"
- Dkos

In for sopranos haha not so much for Norm
Dkos
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 30 @ 2:28 PM ET
In for sopranos haha not so much for Norm
- ClaudeFather


I was prostate with grief when that show ended
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jan 30 @ 2:32 PM ET
They had a lot of just first round picks in general on that team as well.

Kopitar, Carter, Richie, Doughty, Brown, J Will, Gaborik, Gagne, Voynov

Pearson

and good role players as well.

- Peter Richards


seems to be the only way the Flyers will pull it off, their lineup is full of 1st round picks, they need to hit multiple homeruns in the next 2 drafts and have the current group hit their prime better than they are today
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 30 @ 2:33 PM ET
Yawn
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 30 @ 2:35 PM ET
Absolutely. The Flyers don’t need to tank to become relevant again. They need to hit on their picks, which is my point.
- SuperSchennBros



And my point is that while yes, they have to hit on their picks, history shows us that there are many more hits in the top 5 than there are at the middle and bottom of the lottery.
Peter Richards
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 30 @ 2:36 PM ET
seems to be the only way the Flyers will pull it off, their lineup is full of 1st round picks, they need to hit multiple homeruns in the next 2 drafts and have the current group hit their prime better than they are today
- wcorvette


Yeah, and similar to LA or most, make some savvy trades at the right time.

I understand some saying they want to build the next Tampa or Pitt, but i will settle for catching napalm in a bottle like St. Louis.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 30 @ 2:37 PM ET
seems to be the only way the Flyers will pull it off, their lineup is full of 1st round picks, they need to hit multiple homeruns in the next 2 drafts and have the current group hit their prime better than they are today
- wcorvette

not just 1st rd picks, quality 1st rd picks need to contribute.
Dkos
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 30 @ 3:04 PM ET
Yeah, and similar to LA or most, make some savvy trades at the right time.

I understand some saying they want to build the next Tampa or Pitt, but i will settle for catching napalm in a bottle like St. Louis.

- Peter Richards


Nice!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 30 @ 3:33 PM ET
And my point is that while yes, they have to hit on their picks, history shows us that there are many more hits in the top 5 than there are at the middle and bottom of the lottery.
- MBFlyerfan

Absolutely, your odds of landing a top end prospect that will actually work out increase greatly the closer you are to the to of the draft. The other thing to consider is players like Bedard step right into the NHL and finish their development at the highest level versus having to wait 2, 3 or even 4 years before we see the player in the NHL.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 30 @ 3:39 PM ET
Absolutely, your odds of landing a top end prospect that will actually work out increase greatly the closer you are to the to of the draft. The other thing to consider is players like Bedard step right into the NHL and finish their development at the highest level versus having to wait 2, 3 or even 4 years before we see the player in the NHL.
- jd250

Torts wouldn't like Bedard though....
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jan 30 @ 3:43 PM ET
They had a lot of just first round picks in general on that team as well.

Kopitar, Carter, Richie, Doughty, Brown, J Will, Gaborik, Gagne, Voynov

Pearson

and good role players as well.

- Peter Richards


Bellows
TK
Provy
Sanheim
RR
Coots
Bee
Angelo
Hayes
Laughton
Tippett
JVR
York
Ellis

Majority of the Flyers are former 1st round picks
Peter Richards
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jan 30 @ 3:44 PM ET
Bellows
TK
Provy
Sanheim
RR
Coots
Bee
Angelo
Hayes
Laughton
Tippett
JVR
York
Ellis

Majority of the Flyers are former 1st round picks

- corduroy


right, but only a few of them are high performing. most of ours are role players.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 30 @ 3:44 PM ET
Torts wouldn't like Bedard though....
- hello it's me 2050


Lappy would turn him into a 200 ft grinder who plays Flyer hockey for sure
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Jan 30 @ 3:47 PM ET
Lappy would turn him into a 200 ft grinder who plays Flyer hockey for sure
- corduroy

cement head cant even turn Isaac into an everyday AHL player.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 30 @ 3:50 PM ET
Lappy would turn him into a 200 ft grinder who plays Flyer hockey for sure
- corduroy


How is Bedard with blocking shots?
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
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Jan 30 @ 3:54 PM ET
Bellows
TK
Provy
Sanheim
RR
Coots
Bee
Angelo
Hayes
Laughton
Tippett
JVR
York
Ellis

Majority of the Flyers are former 1st round picks

- corduroy


Frost
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 30 @ 3:56 PM ET
right, but only a few of them are high performing. most of ours are role players.
- Peter Richards


I think we are seeing TK's peak, Laughton's peak, Coots past peak. The ones under 25 still have a chance to peak
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jan 30 @ 3:59 PM ET
Frost
- wcorvette


Forgot him - but it is easy to forget AHL only talen
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Jan 30 @ 4:45 PM ET
Uhh if someone doesn't catch the ball and the team hurries up then its cheating as they didn't get the 1st down legally.

But we can agree to disagree.

- Aaron_85

Not cheating.

The refs called the completion, therefore they did get the first down legally. There's nothing in the game that says a team has to do the refs job for them.

Also, the team is only hurrying because there's this thing called a "play clock" where if they don't get the succeeding play executed before it expires, they are assessed a "delay of game" penalty. It's up to the referees to stop the play clock and call an official time-out. The same referees who called the completion, BTW.

A situation for stopping the play clock is for a team's challenge of the previous play. It's not the Eagles fault that the 9ers staff was too slow or oblivious in catching anything amiss in the time between the last play (that was ruled a completion by the refs) and the next play, and the Eagles weren't obligated to risk a delay of game penalty just to afford them more sufficient time.
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