Haxstol disagrees.
- hello it's me 2050

I do think Monty wins it but Hakstol should get some votes if Seattle keeps it up.

IMO Torts deserves the Jack Adams this year and its not even close. Monty inherited a great team in Boston and Brind'more has been with a great team for a while now. But what Torts is doing with this roster plus the injuries plus the culture around the team starting this year, its really incredible the Flyers are even winning as much as they are. I don't think you need to do much coaching for the Bruins or Hurricanes to win, but coaching has been the biggest part of this year's Flyers team so far.
- jd250

Weren't some picking the B's to miss the playoffs. No one expected them to be the powerhouse they are.

Tortorella is not going to have a chance in that. How does moving a team up a few slots and still in the bottom 3rd of the league, win the Jack Adams? LOL Really incredible is hyperbole. Montgomery has that locked up right now and his coaching changes have been paramount to Boston's success. He really did something with the Bruins.
- MJL

I agree that with the way these types of awards of given out, Monty will probably win. However if we were really basing it on the staff that is providing their team the best coaching possible given the circumstances around the team, Torts is the clear winner.

I agree that with the way these types of awards of given out, Monty will probably win. However if we were really basing it on the staff that is providing their team the best coaching possibly given the circumstances around the team, Torts is the clear winner.
- jd250

No he's not. He's not even in the conversation.

Curious to all in favor of tanking. The LA Kings have won two cups in the passed decade. How many first overall picks did they have that led to those two cups?
- SuperSchennBros

Drew doughty #2 overall, Norris trophy, first ballot hall of famer. Do you think that guy helped?

Weren't some picking the B's to miss the playoffs. No one expected them to be the powerhouse they are.
- rayc16

Its interesting, the demise of Boston and Pittsburgh has been predicted for the past few seasons now, but it has not happened. Boston got a bog boost from the deadline deals they made last year plus getting back Krejci to anchor that 2nd line.

Drew doughty #2 overall, Norris trophy, first ballot hall of famer. Do you think that guy helped?
- ClaudeFather

they also had I believe a decent amount of productive 1st rd picks on those teams as well.

Its interesting, the demise of Boston and Pittsburgh has been predicted for the past few seasons now, but it has not happened. Boston got a bog boost from the deadline deals they made last year plus getting back Krejci to anchor that 2nd line.
- jd250

Wait until Boston gets Hayes. The rest of the league might as well just quit.

Its interesting, the demise of Boston and Pittsburgh has been predicted for the past few seasons now, but it has not happened. Boston got a bog boost from the deadline deals they made last year plus getting back Krejci to anchor that 2nd line.
- jd250

pens may miss they playoffs, then hopefully win the lottery and get Bedard.

Drew doughty #2 overall, Norris trophy, first ballot hall of famer. Do you think that guy helped?
- ClaudeFather

High draft picks aren't the cure, but they certainly help.

Out of the last 14 cup champs, 10 had a #1 overall pick, 3 had a #2 (4 if you count Malkin), 1 had a #4.

High draft picks aren't the cure, but they certainly help.

Out of the last 14 cup champs, 10 had a #1 overall pick, 3 had a #2 (4 if you count Malkin), 1 had a #4.
- MBFlyerfan

Outside of Kings, Two outliers are ST Louis who caught fire in a bottle and Boston the hands down best organization in the league

they also had I believe a decent amount of productive 1st rd picks on those teams as well.
- hello it's me 2050

Hextall still getting jobs to this day from it

Outside of Kings, Two outliers are ST Louis who caught fire in a bottle and Boston the hands down best organization in the league
- ClaudeFather

They did, but even St. Louis had a top 4 pick in Pietrangelo. And Boston had Tyler Seguin (#2 pick) who granted, really had nothing to do with that win.

The point is, you aren't going to get better if you can't draft high end talent in today's NHL.

Outside of Kings, Two outliers are ST Louis who caught fire in a bottle and Boston the hands down best organization in the league
- ClaudeFather

Boston had a couple other intangibles that are hard to replicate.

One of the best goalies, best defensive forward in Patrice, but also the giant Chara.

They also really didn't have too many bad trades the last 20 years. Even trading some high first round picks/young prsopects worked in their favor. Now they seem to be doing well locking everyone up for good prices.

Boston had a couple other intangibles that are hard to replicate.

One of the best goalies, best defensive forward in Patrice, but also the giant Chara.

They also really didn't have too many bad trades the last 20 years. Even trading some high first round picks/young prsopects worked in their favor. Now they seem to be doing well locking everyone up for good prices.
- Peter Richards

They just had the epic blunder of drafting 3 in a row and missing a bunch of great players, somewhat recently can’t remember year

They did, but even St. Louis had a top 4 pick in Pietrangelo. And Boston had Tyler Seguin (#2 pick) who granted, really had nothing to do with that win.

The point is, you aren't going to get better if you can't draft high end talent in today's NHL.
- MBFlyerfan

Agreed

They did, but even St. Louis had a top 4 pick in Pietrangelo. And Boston had Tyler Seguin (#2 pick) who granted, really had nothing to do with that win.

The point is, you aren't going to get better if you can't draft high end talent in today's NHL.
- MBFlyerfan

Understand what you are saying. but even drafting high has no guarantee's. See arizona, edmonton (yes they have mcjesus and leon but still haven't won.) Buffalo is starting to get better (a little) and columbus are the ones that come to mind that are always picking high it seems.

Did work out for tampa, pitts, chi town, wash, but these teams had other luck on their side as well. Lottery wins, late round gems or lopsided trades.

They just had the epic blunder of drafting 3 in a row and missing a bunch of great players, somewhat recently can’t remember year
- ClaudeFather

yes. they missed the playoffs and quickly retooled. jesus, just imagine if they hit on two of those three that one year.

i think zboril is the only one in the nhl from that group. not sure.

just checked, debrusk and senyshyn the others.


rigth after barzal, conner. That was a deep draft. look at all the other NHl players they could've had.

yes. they missed the playoffs and quickly retooled. jesus, just imagine if they hit on two of those three that one year.

i think zboril is the only one in the nhl from that group. not sure.
- Peter Richards

It was such a bad miss haha, yea I can’t imagine if they hit on a couple

Understand what you are saying. but even drafting high has no guarantee's. See arizona, edmonton (yes they have mcjesus and leon but still haven't won.) Buffalo is starting to get better (a little) and columbus are the ones that come to mind that are always picking high it seems.

Did work out for tampa, pitts, chi town, wash, but these teams had other luck on their side as well. Lottery wins, late round gems or lopsided trades.
- Peter Richards

They have failed because, like the flyers, have piss poor management. Cracks me up well those teams failed no guarantee. Take my chances doing that way then whatever the flyers choose.

They 100% were successful in securing those top end picks. Taking the same path the flyers have will get you exactly what we have seen for x amount of years.

Understand what you are saying. but even drafting high has no guarantee's. See arizona, edmonton (yes they have mcjesus and leon but still haven't won.) Buffalo is starting to get better (a little) and columbus are the ones that come to mind that are always picking high it seems.

Did work out for tampa, pitts, chi town, wash, but these teams had other luck on their side as well. Lottery wins, late round gems or lopsided trades.
- Peter Richards

Which is almost LITERALLY what I said a few posts back. But as I said, it certainly helps.

Understand what you are saying. but even drafting high has no guarantee's. See arizona, edmonton (yes they have mcjesus and leon but still haven't won.) Buffalo is starting to get better (a little) and columbus are the ones that come to mind that are always picking high it seems.

Did work out for tampa, pitts, chi town, wash, but these teams had other luck on their side as well. Lottery wins, late round gems or lopsided trades.
- Peter Richards

Also helps when the top pick is a strong top pick, Crosby, Kane, Crosby, Ovi, Kane, McD, Ovi etc. You look at the Rangers getting lucky with the lottery twice and the Devils, the difference is the Devils got Hughes, while the jury it still out on the Rangers two picks.

IMO Torts deserves the Jack Adams this year and its not even close. Monty inherited a great team in Boston and Brind'more has been with a great team for a while now. But what Torts is doing with this roster plus the injuries plus the culture around the team starting this year, its really incredible the Flyers are even winning as much as they are. I don't think you need to do much coaching for the Bruins or Hurricanes to win, but coaching has been the biggest part of this year's Flyers team so far.
- jd250

No he doesn’t. Maybe a nomination but he doesn’t deserve to win.

Also helps when the top pick is a strong top pick, Crosby, Kane, Crosby, Ovi, Kane, McD, Ovi etc. You look at the Rangers getting lucky with the lottery twice and the Devils, the difference is the Devils got Hughes, while the jury it still out on the Rangers two picks.
- wcorvette

how is patrick not on this list...oh that's right

High draft picks aren't the cure, but they certainly help.

Out of the last 14 cup champs, 10 had a #1 overall pick, 3 had a #2 (4 if you count Malkin), 1 had a #4.
- MBFlyerfan

Absolutely. The Flyers don’t need to tank to become relevant again. They need to hit on their picks, which is my point.