yes his qualifying offer is 10 million, but another team can trade for him this summer and sign him long term. We can also move things around this summer to fit that in and trade him at next years deadline. Chicago is likely trading two players this month making 10 million and neither are as good now as Meir is.

yes our bottom 6 is not good but the best way to improve it is buy adding to our top 6 and dropping a guy like Wheeler down to the bottom 6, not by adding other teams bottom 6 guys to ours. We can still add a Toews or center but Meir is the top guy available now, if you can get him, you get him.
- Ross77

Amen!

yes his qualifying offer is 10 million, but another team can trade for him this summer and sign him long term. We can also move things around this summer to fit that in and trade him at next years deadline. Chicago is likely trading two players this month making 10 million and neither are as good now as Meir is.

yes our bottom 6 is not good but the best way to improve it is buy adding to our top 6 and dropping a guy like Wheeler down to the bottom 6, not by adding other teams bottom 6 guys to ours. We can still add a Toews or center but Meir is the top guy available now, if you can get him, you get him.
- Ross77

I'm glad pretty much the whole BB has now agreed on Timo Meier as the best fit for the Jets at the trade deadline !!

Jets have the cap space, the assets, the prospects, and draft picks, to get this deal across the finish line.

Chevvvvvvvvy .........GET IT DONE !!!

I'm glad pretty much the whole BB has now agreed on Timo Meier as the best fit for the Jets at the trade deadline !!

Jets have the cap space, the assets, the prospects, and draft picks, to get this deal across the finish line.

Chevvvvvvvvy .........GET IT DONE !!!
- jetsnation

To SJ: Neal Pionk, Ville Heinola, Logan Stanley, Rutter McGroarity, 2023 first round pick

To WPG: Erik Karlsson & Timo Meier

Jets line-up looks like:

Meier-Scheifele-Ehlers
Connor-PLD-Perfetti
Menalainen-Lowry-Wheeler
Barron-Stenlund-Axel-Faillby

Morrissey-Demelo
Dillon-Karlsson
Samberg-Schmidt


Lets do this!!!

To SJ: Neal Pionk, Ville Heinola, Logan Stanley, Rutter McGroarity, 2023 first round pick

To WPG: Erik Karlsson & Timo Meier

Jets line-up looks like:

Meier-Scheifele-Ehlers
Connor-PLD-Perfetti
Menalainen-Lowry-Wheeler
Barron-Stenlund-Axel-Faillby

Morrissey-Demelo
Dillon-Karlsson
Samberg-Schmidt


Lets do this!!!
- TheUltimateJet

Do you really think Karlsson is waiving his full no move to come to Winnipeg?

I just don't see it happening, doubt the Jets could fit his cap hit anyway.

yes his qualifying offer is 10 million, but another team can trade for him this summer and sign him long term. We can also move things around this summer to fit that in and trade him at next years deadline. Chicago is likely trading two players this month making 10 million and neither are as good now as Meir is.

yes our bottom 6 is not good but the best way to improve it is buy adding to our top 6 and dropping a guy like Wheeler down to the bottom 6, not by adding other teams bottom 6 guys to ours. We can still add a Toews or center but Meir is the top guy available now, if you can get him, you get him.
- Ross77

Guess so, doesn't address the defense but definitely would make the top 6 elite and the bottom six a bit better.

Do you really think Karlsson is waiving his full no move to come to Winnipeg?

I just don't see it happening, doubt the Jets could fit his cap hit anyway.
- JetFuel

100% I see Karlsson waiving his NMC to come to Winnipeg. Tyler Myers, Paul Stastny and Nate Schmidt are recent examples of this occurring. Pionk takes away half his cap hit and if rumours are true about San Jose holding onto 18% of his contract for the next 3 seasons (including this one), he will be very affordable. He has come out said that he wants to win and does not necessarily care where.

100% I see Karlsson waiving his NMC to come to Winnipeg. Tyler Myers, Paul Stastny and Nate Schmidt are recent examples of this occurring. Pionk takes away half his cap hit and if rumours are true about San Jose holding onto 18% of his contract for the next 3 seasons (including this one), he will be very affordable. He has come out said that he wants to win and does not necessarily care where.
- TheUltimateJet

Been outside today ?

Been outside today ?
- bennythehat

Don't go out today, wait until Monday!!

100% I see Karlsson waiving his NMC to come to Winnipeg. Tyler Myers, Paul Stastny and Nate Schmidt are recent examples of this occurring. Pionk takes away half his cap hit and if rumours are true about San Jose holding onto 18% of his contract for the next 3 seasons (including this one), he will be very affordable. He has come out said that he wants to win and does not necessarily care where.
- TheUltimateJet

Myers didn't have trade protection when Buffalo traded him to Winnipeg, he had no trade protection for the entirety of that contract, he has some now in Vancouver though.

Stastny was buddies with Wheeler and Wheeler talked to him about waiving, apparently Chevy really pursued Stastny when he was a free agent but he chose St.Louis, he had some history with some people in the Jets organization.

Schmidt is from Minnesota, was in a bad situation in Van and Stastny convinced him to waive after he'd declined a trade to Winnipeg just a few days before.

Does Karlsson have any ties to the Jets management or players like those guys did, pretty sure he doesn't, if he does that would help in convincing him to waive.

Karlsson is signed for four more seasons after this one till 2027 when EK65 will be 37, he has a full NMC for the entire length of his contract.

Also I'm not convinced your trade suggestion would get Karlsson and Meier, also not sure if SJ would want Pionk either, guess Pionks deal is two years shorter then EK65's though so other they'd be out of EK65's deal sooner at least. Pretty sure I read somewhere SJ wanted two 1sts for an 18% retained Karlsson, guess if Heinola is still considered to have the value of a 1st round pick that might be enough for the Sharks, their GM doesn't seem like the brightest so maybe he could be taken to the cleaners.. lol

Myers didn't have trade protection when Buffalo traded him to Winnipeg, he had no trade protection for the entirety of that contract, he has some now in Vancouver though.

Stastny was buddies with Wheeler and Wheeler talked to him about waiving, apparently Chevy really pursued Stastny when he was a free agent but he chose St.Louis, he had some history with some people in the Jets organization.

Schmidt is from Minnesota, was in a bad situation in Van and Stastny convinced him to waive after he'd declined a trade to Winnipeg just a few days before.

Does Karlsson have any ties to the Jets management or players like those guys did, pretty sure he doesn't, if he does that would help in convincing him to waive.

Karlsson is signed for four more seasons after this one till 2027 when EK65 will be 37, he has a full NMC for the entire length of his contract.

Also I'm not convinced your trade suggestion would get Karlsson and Meier, also not sure if SJ would want Pionk either, guess Pionks deal is two years shorter then EK65's though so other they'd be out of EK65's deal sooner at least. Pretty sure I read somewhere SJ wanted two 1sts for an 18% retained Karlsson, guess if Heinola is still considered to have the value of a 1st round pick that might be enough for the Sharks, their GM doesn't seem like the brightest so maybe he could be taken to the cleaners.. lol
- JetFuel

Myers did have trade protection. The Jets originally went after Stastny and that is true when he was a UFA. He decided on going home to St. Louis. He left home to come play for a contender. Schmidt originally declined to come to Winnipeg. Do you think he regrets it now? Who cares what Karlsson has got left on his contract. Jets win the cup this year and no one will bat an eye to what his contract is. Worst comes to worst we trade him again this offseason.

Myers did have trade protection. The Jets originally went after Stastny and that is true when he was a UFA. He decided on going home to St. Louis. He left home to come play for a contender. Schmidt originally declined to come to Winnipeg. Do you think he regrets it now? Who cares what Karlsson has got left on his contract. Jets win the cup this year and no one will bat an eye to what his contract is. Worst comes to worst we trade him again this offseason.
- TheUltimateJet

So Myers trade protection hadn't kicked in when Buffalo traded him so they didn't even need to ask him to waive cause he didn't yet have trade protection.

The point was Schmidt and Stastny had ties to the organization, as far as I know EK65 has none.

Was reported that the Sharks would retain 18% on Karlsson and wanted two 1st round picks for him, combine that with the at least 1st plus A-prospect like Lucius that Meier would cost it'd be the equivalent of four 1st round picks going out the door, doesn't seem like a Chevy type move.

Then there's the issue of Karlsson waiving his full no move clause to leave California for Manitoba.

Sorry but this seems like a completely unrealistic scenario.

So Myers trade protection hadn't kicked in when Buffalo traded him so they didn't even need to ask him to waive cause he didn't yet have trade protection.

The point was Schmidt and Stastny had ties to the organization, as far as I know EK65 has none.

Was reported that the Sharks would retain 18% on Karlsson and wanted two 1st round picks for him, combine that with the at least 1st plus A-prospect like Lucius that Meier would cost it'd be the equivalent of four 1st round picks going out the door, doesn't seem like a Chevy type move.

Then there's the issue of Karlsson waiving his full no move clause to leave California for Manitoba.

Sorry but this seems like a completely unrealistic scenario.
- JetFuel

Just take a look at Bo Horvat, a Southern Ontario boy, signing an 8-year deal today with NYI's and had not even played a game with them yet. Obviously must have been some discussion allowed before the trade happened, but nonetheless, you will never see that type of thing ever happening in Winnipeg ( unless the kid was a born a raised Pegger ) . That's reality !

I'll add one other observation with the NHL trade deadline approx four weeks away. I would definitely not worry about giving up a 1st round draft pick or a decent prospect or two to absolutely go for it this year . My reasoning is quite simple. This time next year if the Jets are a wild card or borderline playoff team then we will likely have many if not all of the following assets for sale....and the probable return ( that some can debate)...

PLD ( Likely UFA) Two firsts , and a good prospect
Schiefele. (UFA). First , good prospect , player
Helle. (UFA). First, good prospect, player
Wheeler. (UFA) 2nd, prospect, some 2023 cap retention
Dillon. (UFA). 2nd , prospect
DeMelo (UFA ). 2nd , prospect

So possibly, four first-round picks, three 2nd round picks, three good prospects, three more prospects, several players, and more than $35 M in cap space.

Furthermore, if Chevy landed Timo Meir ( RFA) and a decent Dman who was also and RFA 's then he will likely get back most or all of what he gave up if he trades them next year. That part most likely a wash.

Its downright scary how quickly this team can get rebuilt , not to mention guys like Lucious & Lambert in the pipeline. The toughest part will be finding someone to replace Helle.

Chevy .....go nuts and give the fans a CUP !!!

After 6 games played

LUCIUS 5-10-15
LAMBERT 4-3-7

After 6 games played

LUCIUS 5-10-15
LAMBERT 4-3-7
- bennythehat

Would rather keep Lucius but if they do make a big trade he's probably gone.

For example if the Jets were to trade for Meier well the Sharks already passed on Lambert once, would they want him now? Maybe but you'd think they'd rather have Lucius or maybe McGroarty would be of interest.

Would rather keep Lucius but if they do make a big trade he's probably gone.

For example if the Jets were to trade for Meier well the Sharks already passed on Lambert once, would they want him now? Maybe but you'd think they'd rather have Lucius or maybe McGroarty would be of interest.
- JetFuel

Heinola , Chisholm, Stanley, draft picks, maybe a guy like Appleton with some term. There is no need to trade Lucius .

Heinola , Chisholm, Stanley, draft picks, maybe a guy like Appleton with some term. There is no need to trade Lucius .
- jetsnation

Those players don't carry a lot of value.

Those players don't carry a lot of value.
- JetFuel

Erik Karlsson 51 NHL games: 16 goals + 50 assists = 66 NHL points
Timo Meier 51 NHL games: 28 goals + 20 assists = 48 NHL points

These two players are what the Jets should go for.


Heck Even if they go for Domi. The most he would cost is a future 2nd round pick.

Max Domi 48 NHL games: 14 goals + 21 assists = 35 NHL points

Heinola , Chisholm, Stanley, draft picks, maybe a guy like Appleton with some term. There is no need to trade Lucius .
- jetsnation

Now shoulder surgery for Lucius, out for season

Now shoulder surgery for Lucius, out for season
- grahamzky

He appears extremely injury prone with major injuries over the past 3-4 years. Must be very deflating for Chad. Time to visit Gary Roberts

Erik Karlsson 51 NHL games: 16 goals + 50 assists = 66 NHL points
Timo Meier 51 NHL games: 28 goals + 20 assists = 48 NHL points

These two players are what the Jets should go for.


Heck Even if they go for Domi. The most he would cost is a future 2nd round pick.

Max Domi 48 NHL games: 14 goals + 21 assists = 35 NHL points
- TheUltimateJet

I've wanted them to trade for Domi for years, thought they should've tried to sign him as a free agent this past summer. Heck why didn't they trade for him at the last trade deadline, Columbus basically gave him away, could've got a head start on trying to sign him, would've been a better investment then Appleton or Sanford. Could've traded for Dylan Strome too since Chicago didn't qualify him and didn't deal him at the last TDL, apparently the Jets tried to sign him this summer, if they'd acquired him from Chicago they would've had his RFA rights.

Meier could be acquired but will be pricey, Karlsson just seems completely unrealistic to me.

Another guy Chevy should inquire on is Nick Schmaltz from Arizona, doesn't have trade protection yet and is signed for 3 more seasons after this one so not a rental.

Now shoulder surgery for Lucius, out for season
- grahamzky

Omg 😲, well there goes that trade chip.. lol

Seriously though that sucks, hopefully he recovers this summer and can put all these injuries behind him, he's missed a lot of hockey, won't be a Jet for a couple years now I'm guessing, he really needed this season in the WHL, this is really 💩💩 news.

Omg 😲, well there goes that trade chip.. lol

Seriously though that sucks, hopefully he recovers this summer and can put all these injuries behind him, he's missed a lot of hockey, won't be a Jet for a couple years now I'm guessing, he really needed this season in the WHL, this is really 💩💩 news.
- JetFuel

He’s still tradeable. We are most likely going to be trading futures in order to get players this year. If a team out there really believes in Lucius, they will give to get.

We also got this trade chip in Vesalainen.

In 25 SM-liiga games he’s got 10 goals and 8 assists for 18 SM-liiga points.

He’s still tradeable. We are most likely going to be trading futures in order to get players this year. If a team out there really believes in Lucius, they will give to get.
- TheUltimateJet

Yeah maybe, we'll see.