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underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jan 27 @ 1:37 PM ET
I don’t really think Domi adds anything but I know you love him. I’m ready to go after somebody like Meier or Konecny. If we’re going to add a physical Dman it should be someone who can play top 4 minutes. I don’t have a name and I don’t really have a view on Motte but certainly don’t oppose a 4th line upgrade.
- Canada Cup


I like the guys you listed too, just really expensive and not sure the Leafs can afford them IMO.

My love for Domi is not without merit. His type of play combined with that fact that he's available and cheap/cost effective adds to my throbbing boner. Plus you can't ignore his stats, they're pretty nice this year playing on a bad team and he could upgrade the 2PP as he's doing well on Chicago's 1PP. Playing better than Jarnkrok...and that's no dis on Krok, love what he brings just need more for 2LW.

If the Leafs could add a player who doesn't back down, hits hard on the forecheck, good speed, tough in front of the net and fits on the 2nd LW...and is also a C that can take a face off in a pinch...all on the cheap. SIGN.ME.UP.

But also, I have a little extra love for the narrative it creates. The story of him coming home to his dad's team to help the team win one...come on, that's awesome. I think he would have a little extra jam just because of that alone.

IDK just seems like a win/win all the way around. Re-sign him for cheap too probably.
rSole
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I usually disagree with Dozzer, ON
Joined: 12.16.2013

Jan 27 @ 1:39 PM ET
Great comeback win from the Leafs last night. It was awesome to see. What a beauty goal by MM in OT. Sammy definitely has taking the net from Murray with his solid and consistent play.

Having said that, there is still no question the Leafs need a better balance of skill and grit(size, toughness) whatever you want to call it. The lack of pushback is concerning and embarrassing at times. We have seen over the years that they have lacked both mental and physical toughness(and the two typically go hand in hand). Big tough AND skilled is hard to find. Which is why it is frustrating that Dubas has invested little scouting/drafting/trades on this element. You can't wait until a big strong prospect takes off offensively, because at that point no team would be willing to trade them. The opportunities have been there for Dubas to get bigger and tougher however.

1. Travis Konecny was on the board to be picked, he instead trades down for Dermott and Bracco.

2. Guhle and Schneider were on the board(at the time when D was a need), he instead picks Amirov.

3. Trades Kadri for Kerfoot.

4. Trades Marchmant for Malgin.

Time and time again he has made this choice. It appears he is too narrow minded in his approach and feels the team can just skill its way to a championship.

Of course you need high skill to win! Leafs have that in boatloads. But they are not balanced correctly. As an example, Kerfoot has no role on this team. He is fast and has some skill but is soft and weak. His spot on the 3rd or 4th line is useless and could be filled by a player like ...uhm Nick Paul?(just an example of how teams like Tampa gets it and was available if Dubas wanted him)

Fingers crossed Knies becomes that player we are all hoping for(props for Dubas on this pic). Top 6 potential with size and finesse. He has got snarl in his game and hits hard. But he might take a few years still to become that impact player.

Not sure why some on here can't handle a little criticism in the Leafs roster composition. It is flawed(based on recent playoff failures). Columbus? Montreal? Leafs were the more skilled team in both of those series and disappointedly(embarrassingly) lost. And although the Tampa series was very close, they still lost. Was a Nick Paul in the bottom 6 the difference? Cheaper and more effective than Kerfoot, that is for sure.

I want the Leafs to win a cup and it should be clear to see what areas of improvement are needed to win in the playoffs. I'm not sure at this point in time what Dubas can do to make those necessary changes by the deadline. This should have been addressed as part of the overall strategy from the get go. Now, Dubas will likely have to take a huge risk and overpay(like he did with Foligno) to get what this team truly needs when the real season begins. (gritty top 6 forward with some size ideally, big tough D to clear the front of the net)

Time will tell.

GLG
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 27 @ 1:41 PM ET
Ditto!!
- Bullot


its not like the Leafs havent tried to add that element

Dubas has added Muzzin, Simmonds, Clifford, Foligno, Bogosian, Lyubushkin, Benn..does ZAR count?

anyways, its just that it hasnt worked yet, so the narrative keeps rolling....its not the right player and mix until it is


fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jan 27 @ 1:41 PM ET
I like the guys you listed too, just really expensive and not sure the Leafs can afford them IMO.

My love for Domi is not without merit. His type of play combined with that fact that he's available and cheap/cost effective adds to my throbbing boner. Plus you can't ignore his stats, they're pretty nice this year playing on a bad team and he could upgrade the 2PP as he's doing well on Chicago's 1PP. Playing better than Jarnkrok...and that's no dis on Krok, love what he brings just need more for 2LW.

If the Leafs could add a player who doesn't back down, hits hard on the forecheck, good speed, tough in front of the net and fits on the 2nd LW...and is also a C that can take a face off in a pinch...all on the cheap. SIGN.ME.UP.

But also, I have a little extra love for the narrative it creates. The story of him coming home to his dad's team to help the team win one...come on, that's awesome. I think he would have a little extra jam just because of that alone.

IDK just seems like a win/win all the way around. Re-sign him for cheap too probably.

- underhill14


I wonder if there is a Domi-McCabe combo deal in the works. Seravelli mentioned McCabe this week.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Jan 27 @ 1:44 PM ET
I wonder if there is a Domi-McCabe combo deal in the works. Seravelli mentioned McCabe this week.
- fifty__missions



Funny I was wondering the same thing, a bit of a one stop shopping experience for Dubas and that would be a trade with lots of pieces / players so that's always fun!
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 27 @ 1:46 PM ET
Great comeback win from the Leafs last night. It was awesome to see. What a beauty goal by MM in OT. Sammy definitely has taking the net from Murray with his solid and consistent play.

Having said that, there is still no question the Leafs need a better balance of skill and grit(size, toughness) whatever you want to call it. The lack of pushback is concerning and embarrassing at times. We have seen over the years that they have lacked both mental and physical toughness(and the two typically go hand in hand). Big tough AND skilled is hard to find. Which is why it is frustrating that Dubas has invested little scouting/drafting/trades on this element. You can't wait until a big strong prospect takes off offensively, because at that point no team would be willing to trade them. The opportunities have been there for Dubas to get bigger and tougher however.

1. Travis Konecny was on the board to be picked, he instead trades down for Dermott and Bracco.



- rSole


I feel like this stuff need to die, it was 2015... the leafs sucked and had no good rookies yet or prospects.

Trading down is not the problem....who they ended up picking is

take Aho and Kaprizov instead with those 2 picks...see drafting is easy

adding..also Hintz or Vince Dunn or Cirelli ..or or or
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 27 @ 1:46 PM ET
I like the guys you listed too, just really expensive and not sure the Leafs can afford them IMO.

My love for Domi is not without merit. His type of play combined with that fact that he's available and cheap/cost effective adds to my throbbing boner. Plus you can't ignore his stats, they're pretty nice this year playing on a bad team and he could upgrade the 2PP as he's doing well on Chicago's 1PP. Playing better than Jarnkrok...and that's no dis on Krok, love what he brings just need more for 2LW.

If the Leafs could add a player who doesn't back down, hits hard on the forecheck, good speed, tough in front of the net and fits on the 2nd LW...and is also a C that can take a face off in a pinch...all on the cheap. SIGN.ME.UP.

But also, I have a little extra love for the narrative it creates. The story of him coming home to his dad's team to help the team win one...come on, that's awesome. I think he would have a little extra jam just because of that alone.

IDK just seems like a win/win all the way around. Re-sign him for cheap too probably.

- underhill14


I’ve been the most cautious boring guy here every off-season - don’t go after the unicorns, etc. Right now, though I’m saying go all in on the best player you get can get your hands on and worry about the consequences in the summer. I want to show Matthews that management is ready to get him the pieces he needs to bring a Cup here.

The only piece I’m reluctant to move is Knies as I think he’s going to provide a cheap skilled power forward for years.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 27 @ 1:50 PM ET
its not like the Leafs havent tried to add that element

Dubas has added Muzzin, Simmonds, Clifford, Foligno, Bogosian, Lyubushkin, Benn..does ZAR count?

anyways, its just that it hasnt worked yet, so the narrative keeps rolling....its not the right player and mix until it is

- senstroll


You want some skill with that toughness you say? That list gets a lot shorter. The only one who actually provided it while here was Muzzin.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 27 @ 1:56 PM ET
You want some skill with that toughness you say? That list gets a lot shorter. The only one who actually provided it while here was Muzzin.
- Canada Cup


yes, I saw that they should trade for Shanahan
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jan 27 @ 1:59 PM ET
its not like the Leafs havent tried to add that element

Dubas has added Muzzin, Simmonds, Clifford, Foligno, Bogosian, Lyubushkin, Benn..does ZAR count?

anyways, its just that it hasnt worked yet, so the narrative keeps rolling....its not the right player and mix until it is

- senstroll

Muzz was great here. Just end of career issues.

The next 2 aren't really players any more, bad moves.

Foligno was injured most of his time here. Loss of a 1st sucks.

Bogo and Bush were great here but didn't or couldn't stay.

Benn has been decent and has thrown a few good hits and ZAR the same. Add Timmins in there too, he's been good and throws a hit or two.

So Dubas is doing alright finding scraps...aside from Muzzin.

The problem is he's always trying to fill in the important "gaps" with scraps every year when those "gaps" need better than scraps.

Hard to always find that hidden gem because you don't have enough $ to get the obvious gem. You end up with the occasional Malgin for Marchment

Hopefully a few tougher gems are on his list the TDL.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jan 27 @ 2:01 PM ET
I’ve been the most cautious boring guy here every off-season - don’t go after the unicorns, etc. Right now, though I’m saying go all in on the best player you get can get your hands on and worry about the consequences in the summer. I want to show Matthews that management is ready to get him the pieces he needs to bring a Cup here.

The only piece I’m reluctant to move is Knies as I think he’s going to provide a cheap skilled power forward for years.

- Canada Cup

Cheers to this post CC. I'm with you all the way on this regardless of the player's name.

Let's get a Cup female doges!!!!
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 27 @ 2:03 PM ET
The Euromilfs on the dating ads I get on here are making me want to dust it off, not gonna lie.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jan 27 @ 2:04 PM ET
I’ve been the most cautious boring guy here every off-season - don’t go after the unicorns, etc. Right now, though I’m saying go all in on the best player you get can get your hands on and worry about the consequences in the summer. I want to show Matthews that management is ready to get him the pieces he needs to bring a Cup here.

The only piece I’m reluctant to move is Knies as I think he’s going to provide a cheap skilled power forward for years.

- Canada Cup

Horvat or Meier?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 27 @ 2:08 PM ET
I’ve been the most cautious boring guy here every off-season - don’t go after the unicorns, etc. Right now, though I’m saying go all in on the best player you get can get your hands on and worry about the consequences in the summer. I want to show Matthews that management is ready to get him the pieces he needs to bring a Cup here.

The only piece I’m reluctant to move is Knies as I think he’s going to provide a cheap skilled power forward for years.

- Canada Cup

Not to mention TB likely cant do much this TDL
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Jan 27 @ 2:11 PM ET
The Euromilfs on the dating ads I get on here are making me want to dust it off, not gonna lie.
- Zezel

shake hands with the unemployed👍

lmfaooooooooo 🤣
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 27 @ 2:14 PM ET
Not to mention TB likely cant do much this TDL
- Santo_44

Yeah, I mean the only way they could add to that roster would be to blatantly disregard the rules surrounding the salary cap.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 27 @ 2:15 PM ET
I've had a few over the years.

The pain after a root canal is absolutely nothing compared to the pain before that required me to have a root canal.

I remember talking with the dentist before the procedure. He said he was going to write me an Oxycontin prescription. I told him I really didn't want that - a combination of I know they are highly addictive, and I had small kids in the house.

He said, "OK, I'll only write you a little prescription - trust me, you're gonna want these."

HE WROTE ME A FRANKING PRESCRIPTION FOR 20 FRANKING PILLS.

And to top it all off, I was fine - the pain was manageable. Never filled out the prescription.

- Atomic Wedgie


I still have 9 of the 10 morphine they gave me after by hematoma eating poop on my bike.

Being on the IV morphine was so goooooooooooooooooooooooooooood. I can see why opiates are so popular, they're outstanding.
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Jan 27 @ 2:15 PM ET
Thats a Dubas trade

I think he might trade Kerfoot this year

- Santo_44

Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jan 27 @ 2:17 PM ET


1. Travis Konecny was on the board to be picked, he instead trades down for Dermott and Bracco.

- rSole


This was in 2015 while Lou was the GM. Mark Hunter and Dubas were assistants. Does this feel like a Dubas move? Yes, it does, but he wasn't making the calls here. It could just have easily been a Hunter decision - I don't know. Neither Bracco nor Dermott played for the Soo or London.


2. Guhle and Schneider were on the board(at the time when D was a need), he instead picks Amirov.


So a kid gets diagnosed with a brain tumour and this the net result you have? Guhle is young and has promise, but there's nothing in his game - yet - other than size that says he's a top pairing guy. Schneider is actually not that different. On Montreal there are a number of players who have positive xG% metrics - Guhle, despite lower competition, isn't among them - he's second worst to only Edmundson; Schneider is on a good team but is still posting net negative expected results.

When you forego your defensive responsibilities to make a hit, it's how you lose. I'm not saying we couldn't use that sandpaper - because of course we could - but there isn't an end-all-be-all to these picks.


3. Trades Kadri for Kerfoot.


Kadri had to go. We all liked him. I also don't like Kerfoot much, but Kadri had to go.



4. Trades Marchmant for Malgin.


Yup. This was a terrible decision in hindsight. So was hockey in the desert; what are you gonna do?

The pattern that's presented in the last 3 of the above is skilled players who can carry the puck out of and trouble into the O-zone and make a smart pass. It's pretty
useful. Malgin, for all he sucks, does it well. But then he sucks again. Marchment is on a 15 goal, 36 point pace for $4.5m - so it's not like we gave up an elite scorer either.


Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 27 @ 2:18 PM ET
shake hands with the unemployed👍

lmfaooooooooo 🤣

- Skalapy


lol

I've been getting work but I'll still take some me time when I'm alone with HB's targeted ads.

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 27 @ 2:20 PM ET
Yeah, I mean the only way they could add to that roster would be to blatantly disregard the rules surrounding the salary cap.
- Atomic Wedgie

Well they have one 2nd round pick out of their 4 top picks in the next 2 years

They are last in the prospect rankings

They really do not have anything to get the top guys

They will get Barbashev
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 27 @ 2:21 PM ET
I still have 9 of the 10 morphine they gave me after by hematoma eating poop on my bike.

Being on the IV morphine was so goooooooooooooooooooooooooooood. I can see why opiates are so popular, they're outstanding.

- Zezel


i had dilaudid after my wisdom teeth

they were highly necessary the first day, if not just because the body knows to release a ton of adrenaline when it becomes aware of a huge trauma (which was unpleasant), afterwards probably not so much

they were OK, the lows were higher and I can see why people use opiates for escapism but the highs were lower
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Jan 27 @ 2:21 PM ET
Man it's crazy that AGAIN the playoff teams in the atlantic were pretty much set by Jan 1. I see no reason for the leafs to push players like Matthews through injuries with these types of cushions.

Not only that, but the team can perform fairly well without him. I'd be happy with .500 hockey through the stretch.

- Aaron_85

Suspect this was part of the same injury he missed two games for.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 27 @ 2:22 PM ET
Horvat or Meier?
- fifty__missions

I say Meier just because I started pushing him before anyone else and if we win the Cup I can take full credit. Also as an RFA, there’s a chance to trade him if he isn’t extended to get something back. Also, also he weighs 220 and beat some dude up the other day.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 27 @ 2:24 PM ET
shake hands with the unemployed👍

lmfaooooooooo 🤣

- Skalapy


globalism is stealing all the jobs of the milfs in canada and just handing them to the euromilfs
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