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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Will Cap Constraints Necessitate Money-In/Money-Out?, Leafs vs. Islanders
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dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jan 25 @ 7:18 PM ET
Keep your heads up boys… that douchenozzle trouba be looking to Crosby something tonight ….
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Jan 25 @ 7:19 PM ET
Again?!?!?! Come on!!! How can we not fix this bench issue after all these years??!!
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Jan 25 @ 7:19 PM ET
Keep your heads up boys… that douchenozzle trouba be looking to Crosby something tonight ….
- dozerD10


Yeah good call there
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jan 25 @ 7:22 PM ET
DarnCroak and Mitchy look similar out there.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jan 25 @ 7:23 PM ET
Gio is a Leaf.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jan 25 @ 7:24 PM ET
Gio is a Leaf.
- Woderwick

time to shave again soon
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jan 25 @ 7:29 PM ET
time to shave again soon
- 21peter

😆
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jan 25 @ 7:31 PM ET
Sweet hit from behind.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jan 25 @ 7:33 PM ET
No boarding on Miller there ???
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jan 25 @ 7:38 PM ET
Samsonov is athletic.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jan 25 @ 7:38 PM ET
Sweet hit from behind.
- gravyface

Seemed callable.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 25 @ 7:40 PM ET
Samsonov is athletic.
- fifty__missions


yeah not like that slob shesterkin
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jan 25 @ 7:42 PM ET
Nice cross check too
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Jan 25 @ 7:42 PM ET
Nice cross check to the numbers on Bunting there. Jeeez
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Jan 25 @ 7:44 PM ET
Solid play and puck protection by McMann there.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jan 25 @ 7:44 PM ET
Nice cross check to the numbers on Bunting there. Jeeez
- Roadrunner75

they all know the refs hates him...
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jan 25 @ 7:45 PM ET
they all know the refs hates him...
- 21peter

Surprised Matthews doesn’t crosscheck him.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jan 25 @ 7:46 PM ET
yeah not like that slob shesterkin
- TheMussel

Lol. I was more thinking that Sammy is a stark contrast to Murray, who is more of a blocker type goalie.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jan 25 @ 7:47 PM ET
Surprised Matthews doesn’t crosscheck him.
- Woderwick

he rather just stand by watching
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jan 25 @ 7:47 PM ET
Can I ask your opinion further into this?

Here's my take on the LTIR situation:

Cap is $82.5m
We have $7.2m currently in LTIR that does not apply against the roster costs.

Now let's take our base 12F and 7D and 2G, without Simmonds, Knies, Anderson, Benn - and you have a roster cost of $78.7m (including the $212k in bonus money).

Now you add in the most expensive guys to bring your roster size to 23 - Simmonds and Knies (assume he gets a $925k ELC), and that brings your roster cost up to $80.7m.

Available LTIR space is the LTIR space you have - (cap ceiling - actual cap used), or $7.2m - ($82.5m - $80.7m), or basically $5.4m in LTIR space available.

Is that your understanding? Because it seems that there's more money available if Muzzin is out (which all indications are that he will be) that just the ability to drop under the cap ceiling . . .

I guess I'm wondering if I'm missing something in that consideration.

- Monkeypunk


This is definitely a 6-pack and some snacks kinda convo ...

Using CF as the starting point. Leafs bellied right up to the Cap before using LTIR and are about 7.2M into LTIR. So they can spend ~ 89.7M - but that includes the guys on LTIR. But the LTIR guys take up their 7.2 so really its about the rest of the roster being able to go to 82.5M.

Right now they are carrying 14F, 8D (includes Brodie), 2G, plus the 212k bonus, plus 80k for some weird penalty for Dahlstrom. That's about 81.4 so they've got 1.1M. But that's with 24 guys on the Cap. When Brodies off I.R. someone's gone - that'll get them another 800k in space ..so about 1.9M with a full 23 man roster.

If they're adding a F at the deadline someone will be out. If it's a bottom end guy that's another 800k in room (2.7M) ...if it's Kerfoot that's another 3.5M in room (5.4M).
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 25 @ 7:50 PM ET
No what you have heard is talking heads looking for relevency, something to speculate and talk about, looking for clicks. No actual facts either way.
- Roadrunner75

No i saw him baking cupcakes
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 25 @ 7:54 PM ET
Crap, forgot to get beer. All that im left with is either dont drink beer or drink Cowbell nitro draught stout.



My gawd this cowbell.is gross
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ,all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 25 @ 7:54 PM ET
This is definitely a 6-pack and some snacks kinda convo ...

Using CF as the starting point. Leafs bellied right up to the Cap before using LTIR and are about 7.2M into LTIR. So they can spend ~ 89.7M - but that includes the guys on LTIR. But the LTIR guys take up their 7.2 so really its about the rest of the roster being able to go to 82.5M.

Right now they are carrying 14F, 8D (includes Brodie), 2G, plus the 212k bonus, plus 80k for some weird penalty for Dahlstrom. That's about 81.4 so they've got 1.1M. But that's with 24 guys on the Cap. When Brodies off I.R. someone's gone - that'll get them another 800k in space ..so about 1.9M with a full 23 man roster.

If they're adding a F at the deadline someone will be out. If it's a bottom end guy that's another 800k in room (2.7M) ...if it's Kerfoot that's another 3.5M in room (5.4M).

- The Law


Depending on developments in the crypto markets.

This all tracks with an article I read and couldn’t find again.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ,all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 25 @ 7:56 PM ET
I love Pontus.
- fifty__missions

I do too but he should have weleased Woger
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jan 25 @ 7:57 PM ET
Crap, forgot to get beer. All that im left with is either dont drink beer or drink Cowbell nitro draught stout.



My gawd this cowbell.is gross

- Fakepartofme

Ha! No beer in the fridge for me either…like WTF!
I went the Apricot Brandy route.
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