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Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 27 @ 4:57 PM ET
All I've said is Skinner is not on a bad contract, and continue to get pushback for it from people who want to sign a lesser scorer to more money.
- lacaprup


You still haven't answered the question. If you could sign Skinner as a UFA to 4 x 9 tomorrow with a full NMC (in other words, what is left on his current contract), do you do it?
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jan 27 @ 4:58 PM ET
All I've said is Skinner is not on a bad contract, and continue to get pushback for it from people who want to sign a lesser scorer to more money.
- lacaprup


I mean the chances of us acquiring Meier are next to none so I won’t waste too much ink on this, but there is a lot of evidence that argues the contrary.

Along with him being a better scorer, he defends much better than Skinner, and his 106 hits this year would be first on the Sabres by nearly 40 hits.

If Alex Tuch and Jeff Skinner had a baby, it would be Timo Meier
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jan 27 @ 4:58 PM ET
Here is where you go off the tracks. At some point they might wish that they could move on from him because of the giant number, his age, and his value at that point in time.
- Slump Buster


And then you find a farm team (like us for example) and ship the contract out, and that is only if Skinner stops scoring all the sudden. However, he has gotten better his last two seasons not worse, so I don't think we have to worry about that right now.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jan 27 @ 4:59 PM ET
You still haven't answered the question. If you could sign Skinner as a UFA to 4 x 9 tomorrow with a full NMC (in other words, what is left on his current contract), do you do it?
- Slump Buster


I did answer you with a specific set of variables I would need to know before I can write out a contract for a scorer I may or may not need.

It's an unanswerable question.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 27 @ 5:01 PM ET
And then you find a farm team (like us for example) and ship the contract out, and that is only if Skinner stops scoring all the sudden. However, he has gotten better his last two seasons not worse, so I don't think we have to worry about that right now.
- lacaprup


And that's what started the whole discussion. Many pages back I said that I'd feel better about shopping if we could move Skinner out if we needed to at some point in the future. He has a NMC so that is not likely.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 27 @ 5:03 PM ET
I did answer you with a specific set of variables I would need to know before I can write out a contract for a scorer I may or may not need.

It's an unanswerable question.

- lacaprup


Picture this team without skinner and everything else the same. I don't know how much clearer it needs to be. Do you give him 4 x 9 with a full NMC?
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jan 27 @ 5:04 PM ET
Skinner, Jeff 2022-23
45 games played 50 points so far.

Meier, Timo 2022-23
49 games player 48 points so far.

- lacaprup


Different players and would love both on the Sabres. Meier is a ton more physical, something we need.

This team may be a playoff team already, but definitely is with Meier and a Physical 3-4 RHD traded for.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jan 27 @ 5:10 PM ET
Picture this team without skinner and everything else the same. I don't know how much clearer it needs to be. Do you give him 4 x 9 with a full NMC?
- Slump Buster


Ok, so now I am well under the cap floor because of not having Skinner's contract.

Yes, in a NY minute and I'm still barely at the cap floor. Homerun deal.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 27 @ 5:11 PM ET
"continues" is a reach - he was at the top of the "worst contracts" lists for a reason. Yes, he is having a career year. I am tickled pink that he turned it around. He has 4 x 9 left after this year with a NMC. If he was a UFA today would I give him that deal (4 x 9)? Not a chance. For 9 mill you can't have the warts that Skinner has. I'd go out and get an even better player (like Meier).
- Slump Buster


If skinner was about to become a ufa this board would be up in arms.

Just sign skinner...

4 years x 8 million for sure. + buffatax
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 27 @ 5:16 PM ET
Ok, so now I am well under the cap floor because of not having Skinner's contract.

Yes, in a NY minute and I'm still barely at the cap floor. Homerun deal.

- lacaprup


In a league where half the league is trying to shed salary, you'd do a significant over-pay for a guy with limitations rather than shopping? Where else is he going to go?

Again, if it goes south that contract is not movable.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 27 @ 5:17 PM ET
If skinner was about to become a ufa this board would be up in arms.

Just sign skinner...

4 years x 8 million for sure. + buffatax

- Boss34


It is the NMC that is the killer.
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jan 27 @ 5:19 PM ET
per espn


MIAMI -- Dolphins quarterback Tua Tagovailoa remains in the concussion protocol and will not participate in next week's Pro Bowl Games, a source told ESPN on Friday.

- homiedclown



He's done with Miami
There going after Rodgers
And the AFC east is going to be wide open battle
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 27 @ 5:20 PM ET
He's done with Miami
There going after Rodgers
And the AFC east is going to be wide open battle

- Anderdog


Do they have anything left to trade for him? That Chubb trade didn't work out for them on many levels.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 27 @ 5:22 PM ET
Can anyone on the Skinner is on a bad contract bandwagon point to a single instance where it has hurt the Sabres or Jeff Skinner? Since the Sabres and Jeff Skinner are the only two parties to this "bad contract" at some point one of them must have been hurt by this awful deal.
- lacaprup


Sabres were a cap team in early in his deal, even took overage penalties. Not fair to think that had an influence on their moves?
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jan 27 @ 5:25 PM ET
Do they have anything left to trade for him? That Chubb trade didn't work out for them on many levels.
- Slump Buster


https://profootballtalk.n...dgers-land-with-the-jets/

One of many articles out there
Cost ain't that much
Space is thou
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 27 @ 5:33 PM ET
The Josh Allen rumors are true btw
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jan 27 @ 5:34 PM ET
The Josh Allen rumors are true btw
- sbroads24

He's fat?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 27 @ 5:35 PM ET
He's fat?
- jochfr

He knocked up a rando
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jan 27 @ 5:37 PM ET
The Josh Allen rumors are true btw
- sbroads24

https://larrybrownsports....mlin-rumors-theory/610681

Lol
Hope ur not talking about this
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 27 @ 5:42 PM ET
https://larrybrownsports.com/football/josh-allen-wild-damar-hamlin-rumors-theory/610681

Lol
Hope ur not talking about this

- Anderdog

No.

Allen cheated on his girlfriend and got someone pregnant.

I heard about this over a month ago from someone who’s friends with an O lineman for the Bills

It’s now coming out on Twitter
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jan 27 @ 5:55 PM ET
Different players and would love both on the Sabres. Meier is a ton more physical, something we need.

This team may be a playoff team already, but definitely is with Meier and a Physical 3-4 RHD traded for.

- turbo044


Based on YouTube videos I watched at work. He is like another tuch basically.

He would be the definition of a power forward

He just doesn’t have Tuchs speed
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 27 @ 6:00 PM ET
It is the NMC that is the killer.
- Slump Buster


Not anymore IMO.

You wouldnt give skinner 4 years nmc 32 million now?

1 million overpayment per
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jan 27 @ 6:00 PM ET
He knocked up a rando
- sbroads24

We've all been there before...
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 27 @ 6:02 PM ET
We've all been there before...
- jochfr

Oh my
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 27 @ 6:04 PM ET
Good stuff going on here.
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