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Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 27 @ 2:06 PM ET
The door at this TDL, and forever.
- IonSabres


If they really want to shop, they would have to. Good thing they've built his value back up.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 27 @ 2:06 PM ET
It's lined up already with
Levy,
Johnson
Kulich,
Rousek
Rosen,
Savoie,
Ostlund,
Nadeau
2023 1st, and 3 2nds
And several more.

Plenty to roster a fast, exciting Bottom 6, Goalies and Bottom Pairings on ELC's and Bridge deals for 6 years.
All that compliments heavier investments in the top 6 and 1st & 2nd pairings

- IonSabres

Good Post, if the Sabres are gonna do it, nows the time.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 27 @ 2:07 PM ET
The door at this TDL, and forever.
- IonSabres

Agree, stay hot
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 27 @ 2:09 PM ET
It's lined up already with
Levy,
Johnson
Kulich,
Rousek
Rosen,
Savoie,
Ostlund,
Nadeau
2023 1st, and 3 2nds
And several more.

Plenty to roster a fast, exciting Bottom 6, Goalies and Bottom Pairings on ELC's and Bridge deals for 6 years.
All that compliments heavier investments in the top 6 and 1st & 2nd pairings

- IonSabres


That's all true - they have the option of having as many ELCs playing as they want to. But that's not the question. The question is (and this is purely theoretical so don't pretend like I am arguing it), will they be forced to play more of them than they would want to because they became top-heavy. This is what kills so many of the good teams.

I bit the bullet and put some numbers together

Dahlin - 11
Thompson - 7
Skinner - 9
Cozens - 7
Power - 7
Olloffson - 7
Tuch - 5 (will probably double in 2026)
Meier - 9

That's 62 mill for 8 players. So that leaves 25ish mill for the other 15.

So the obvious move is to toss aside Ollofson. And yes, there is a TON of cap space here in the next 2 years. They should absolutely use that. My only point is that it becomes trickier after that.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 27 @ 2:09 PM ET
If they really want to shop, they would have to. Good thing they've built his value back up.
- Slump Buster


Not really.
Your fears are really unfounded.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 27 @ 2:10 PM ET
Not really.
Your fears are really unfounded.

- IonSabres


See my last post and tell me how they aren't unfounded if we sign him to significant term and money.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 27 @ 2:11 PM ET
That's all true - they have the option of having as many ELCs playing as they want to. But that's not the question. The question is (and this is purely theoretical so don't pretend like I am arguing it), will they be forced to play more of them than they would want to because they became top-heavy. This is what kills so many of the good teams.

I bit the bullet and put some numbers together

Dahlin - 11
Thompson - 7
Skinner - 9
Cozens - 7
Power - 7
Olloffson - 7
Tuch - 5 (will probably double in 2026)
Meier - 9

That's 62 mill for 8 players. So that leaves 25ish mill for the other 15.

So the obvious move is to toss aside Ollofson. And yes, there is a TON of cap space here in the next 2 years. They should absolutely use that. My only point is that it becomes trickier after that.

- Slump Buster

Wow!! Olofsson at 7
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 27 @ 2:13 PM ET
Wow!! Olofsson at 7
- Buff36


He has to get at least 6, doesn't he? The guy is pushing 40 goals this year and has a track record of scoring at least 30. He may not drive play but he has been a 200' player this year.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jan 27 @ 2:14 PM ET
... and you left out the little part of them not being able to get past the first round because they have no space to address their glaring deficiencies.
- Slump Buster


Look who they run into in those first round exits.... not like they're losing to worse teams... Those team either make the finals or win it all.

Washington
Montreal
Tampa
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 27 @ 2:16 PM ET
He has to get at least 6, doesn't he? The guy is pushing 40 goals this year and has a track record of scoring at least 30. He may not drive play but he has been a 200' player this year.
- Slump Buster


When exactly did that happen? His career high is 20.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 27 @ 2:17 PM ET
He has to get at least 6, doesn't he? The guy is pushing 40 goals this year and has a track record of scoring at least 30. He may not drive play but he has been a 200' player this year.
- Slump Buster

When ? you could give that money to the better hockey player Timo who is younger and not worry about your Cap
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 27 @ 2:18 PM ET
you can also call it agent advice as claude was his kid's agent


but continue it's more entertaining than your girgens hourly post

- homiedclown


You should get a lemieux Jersey.

I'm sure claude slipped his agent hat on and pulled off his #1 dad hat to have a discussion with his kid.

Nothing has changed in buffalo in 9 years, the part you completely whiffed on ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jan 27 @ 2:18 PM ET
He has to get at least 6, doesn't he? The guy is pushing 40 goals this year and has a track record of scoring at least 30. He may not drive play but he has been a 200' player this year.
- Slump Buster


What fvcking games do you watch
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 27 @ 2:20 PM ET
Screw getting really good anytime soon - letโ€™s obsess over how much $$ Jack Quinn may or may not get in 2025

The Sabres are good now, they should act like it

- sbroads24


Yea but Savoie, Kulich and Ostlund will also need contract soon.

An argument I actually read on Twitter. I think they also had Lybushkin getting a hefty raise as well.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 27 @ 2:20 PM ET
You should get a lemieux Jersey.

I'm sure claude slipped his agent hat on and pulled off his #1 dad hat to have a discussion with his kid.

Nothing has changed in buffalo in 9 years, the part you completely whiffed on ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€

- Boss34

you and your buddy richard really need a new hobby

maybe you guys can try to get girgens that extension
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 27 @ 2:21 PM ET
When ? you could give that money to the better hockey player Timo who is younger and not worry about your Cap
- Buff36


Timo +3 million > pylonssons
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 27 @ 2:21 PM ET
What fvcking games do you watch

- DirtyDan

he is to olofsson as boss is to girgens

I don't judge, it's 2023

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 27 @ 2:22 PM ET
you and your buddy richard really need a new hobby

maybe you guys can try to get girgens that extension

- homiedclown


You should get a roma Jersey
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 27 @ 2:23 PM ET
You should get a roma Jersey
- Boss34

I will when girgens gets his first playoff goal

and I will get that bosa jersey you told me to get as well
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jan 27 @ 2:23 PM ET
he is to olofsson as boss is to girgens

I don't judge, it's 2023

- homiedclown


Girgens the contributor and Olofsson the 200ft player.. 2 things I never thought I'd never hear

Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 27 @ 2:27 PM ET
When exactly did that happen? His career high is 20.
- Wetbandit1


I meant to say that he scores at almost a 30 goal a season pace, based on hockey-reference.com (they have him at an average of 27 per 82).
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 27 @ 2:28 PM ET
What fvcking games do you watch

- DirtyDan


Obviously not the same games you are watching. He has been getting a ton of credit for this in the last few weeks.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 27 @ 2:28 PM ET
That's all true - they have the option of having as many ELCs playing as they want to. But that's not the question. The question is (and this is purely theoretical so don't pretend like I am arguing it), will they be forced to play more of them than they would want to because they became top-heavy. This is what kills so many of the good teams.

I bit the bullet and put some numbers together

Dahlin - 11
Thompson - 7
Skinner - 9
Cozens - 7
Power - 7
Olloffson - 7
Tuch - 5 (will probably double in 2026)
Meier - 9

That's 62 mill for 8 players. So that leaves 25ish mill for the other 15.

So the obvious move is to toss aside Ollofson. And yes, there is a TON of cap space here in the next 2 years. They should absolutely use that. My only point is that it becomes trickier after that.

- Slump Buster

Which is plenty

Unless you want to overspend on your bottom 3 forwards and bottom pair D

Pay the good players. Donโ€™t pay the bad ones
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 27 @ 2:31 PM ET
When ? you could give that money to the better hockey player Timo who is younger and not worry about your Cap
- Buff36


so now I am arguing for Olofson over Meier?

Again, at what point am I arguing any of these things? I also want to go out and get a guy. This is like the Debrincat conversation all over again. Because I was in favor of getting a quality player on a shorter term I was not interested in winning and I hate the team and I put blue cheese on my wings. I also want to improve the team - I am just hesitant (yet not against) this move.


ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 27 @ 2:34 PM ET
Which is plenty

Unless you want to overspend on your bottom 3 forwards and bottom pair D

Pay the good players. Donโ€™t pay the bad ones

- sbroads24

I also donโ€™t see Dahlin getting 11.

I can see a deal very similar to Makar.
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