ej seems kind of interchangeable with luke schenn

expectations were too high and no development based on their draft positions

i’ll put this on the presidents and gms

a related topic

How many top first rounders have been rushed into the fire and failed by management misjudgment of their skill sets?
- Skalapy

Big difference here Skalapy: EJ was a 1st overall pick with Jordan Staal, Jonathan Toews, Nicholas Backstrom and Phil Kessel all picked after him. Schenn was a 5th overall pick where Stamkos, Doughty and PietrAngelo all went before him.

Agree - early to say with conviction at this point. But also rather easy to say that Brady Tkachuk>Kotkaniemi. Wright looked really good winning a gold medal for Canada.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq0w7UC67ug
- winsix

Always good to get a discussion going by saying one of the worst picks ever but at best you can question whether he’s better than Wright or whoever. It was a really weird draft and it’s going to be a few years before we can really assess these kids.

Always good to get a discussion going by saying one of the worst picks ever but at best you can question whether he’s better than Wright or whoever. It was a really weird draft and it’s going to be a few years before we can really assess these kids.
- Canada Cup

no no, Slafkovsky = Yakupov.

no no, Slafkovsky = Yakupov.
- Pat1993

As long as we’re not talking about that Trump of a game last night. Also, oh oh Buffalo

As long as we’re not talking about that Trump of a game last night.
- Canada Cup

it was very entertaining, no?

and by "Trump of a game", do you mean that the leafs were victims of an unfair situation..?

it was very entertaining, no?

and by "Trump of a game", do you mean that the leafs were victims of an unfair situation..?
- Pat1993

Dumb

Dumb
- Canada Cup

yeah, I guess it depends on which side of the fence you're on but I see where you were going now with this Trump thing lol.

Always good to get a discussion going by saying one of the worst picks ever but at best you can question whether he’s better than Wright or whoever. It was a really weird draft and it’s going to be a few years before we can really assess these kids.
- Canada Cup

I said in the past 30 years, here are the 1st overall picks in the last 30 years previous to the Slafkovsky pick - Now Honestly see if you completely disagree with the 5 worst that I picked. Also with the the understanding that I agree it is early on Slafkovsky, but his stats for year 1 are really poor.

Juraj Slafkovsky
Owen Power
Alexis Lafrenière
Jack Hughes
Rasmus Dahlin
Nico Hischier
Auston Matthews
Connor McDavid
Aaron Ekblad
Nathan MacKinnon
Nail Yakupov
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Taylor Hall
John Tavares
Steven Stamkos
Patrick Kane
Erik Johnson
Sidney Crosby
Alex Ovechkin
Marc-Andre Fleury
Rick Nash
Ilya Kovalchuk
Rick DiPietro
Patrik Stefan
Vincent Lecavalier
Joe Thornton
Chris Phillips
Bryan Berard
Ed Jovanovski
Alexandre Daigle

I said in the past 30 years, here are the 1st overall picks in the last 30 years previous to the Slafkovsky pick - Now Honestly see if you completely disagree with the 5 worst that I picked. Also with the the understanding that I agree it is early on Slafkovsky, but his stats for year 1 are really poor.

Juraj Slafkovsky
Owen Power
Alexis Lafrenière
Jack Hughes
Rasmus Dahlin
Nico Hischier
Auston Matthews
Connor McDavid
Aaron Ekblad
Nathan MacKinnon
Nail Yakupov
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Taylor Hall
John Tavares
Steven Stamkos
Patrick Kane
Erik Johnson
Sidney Crosby
Alex Ovechkin
Marc-Andre Fleury
Rick Nash
Ilya Kovalchuk
Rick DiPietro
Patrik Stefan
Vincent Lecavalier
Joe Thornton
Boston Bruins
Chris Phillips
Bryan Berard
Ed Jovanovski
Alexandre Daigle
- winsix

No bias on this one Pat, Slafkovshy has 10 points and is -13 in 39 games with the Habs. The only highlights I've seen of him to date are him being hit really hard by opponents. Yakupov scored 24 points in 48 games in his rookie season, Daigle scored 51 points in his rookie season. Fairly clear trajectory
- winsix

Draisaitl had 2 goals, 9 points, and was a - 17 through his first 37 NHL games. Not so clear trajectory.

oh for sure, they definitely aren't always fun to watch. but they've had a lot of good games as well, and compared to last year's cluster(frank) there's a lot of positive to look at.
- Pat1993

But I thought St Louis was the saviour and had everything figured out last year. They get thumped more often than not, and as a Leaf's fan that had to endure the 1980's and most of the 2000's before Matthews was drafted I know that getting all happy winning the Habs Leafs rivalry usually means your team is a tire fire

But I thought St Louis was the saviour and had everything figured out last year. They get thumped more often than not, and as a Leaf's fan that had to endure the 1980's and most of the 2000's before Matthews was drafted I know that getting all happy winning the Habs Leafs rivalry usually means your team is a tire fire
- jribout

not sure where this comes from but the new management team has been at the helm for about a year now, getting rid of the dead wood and building a winning team can't really be done in the span of only a few months.

Draisaitl had 2 goals, 9 points, and was a - 17 through his first 37 NHL games. Not so clear trajectory.
- joel878

what a bum, imagine being stuck with that guy on your roster, amirite?

I said in the past 30 years, here are the 1st overall picks in the last 30 years previous to the Slafkovsky pick - Now Honestly see if you completely disagree with the 5 worst that I picked. Also with the the understanding that I agree it is early on Slafkovsky, but his stats for year 1 are really poor.

Juraj Slafkovsky
Owen Power
Alexis Lafrenière
Jack Hughes
Rasmus Dahlin
Nico Hischier
Auston Matthews
Connor McDavid
Aaron Ekblad
Nathan MacKinnon
Nail Yakupov
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Taylor Hall
John Tavares
Steven Stamkos
Patrick Kane
Erik Johnson
Sidney Crosby
Alex Ovechkin
Marc-Andre Fleury
Rick Nash
Ilya Kovalchuk
Rick DiPietro
Patrik Stefan
Vincent Lecavalier
Joe Thornton
Boston Bruins
Chris Phillips
Bryan Berard
Ed Jovanovski
Alexandre Daigle
- winsix

He’s one of the worst picks if he’s much worse than other players in the draft that they didn’t take. There’s no way you can say that right now since no one has really done anything.

Seriously? Are you Janice with a penis? Another ex military looking down on civilians. We didn't force you. Sick of it.

Seriously? Are you Janice with a penis? Another ex military looking down on civilians. We didn't force you. Sick of it.
- Tee-Dot

Sir, this is a Wendy's.

My brother who is a filthy Habs pig gave me a sweet white Leafs jersey! STOKED!

Sir, this is a Wendy's.
- joel878

Do you want fries with that penis?

Sir, this is a Wendy's.
- joel878

Love Wendy's. Still Harvey's is better.

Do you want fries with that penis?
- Canada Cup

I used to dip them in a Frosty. The fries, not penis

not sure where this comes from but the new management team has been at the helm for about a year now, getting rid of the dead wood and building a winning team can't really be done in the span of only a few months.
- Pat1993

Agree with this and Jeff Gorton was an excellent hire IMO, he did a good job with the Rangers. That said, Leafs picked 1st overall once under Shanahan and Leafs made the playoffs during Matthew's rookie season. Habs look to be a few years away from being a playoff team. This is especially true with the improvement of the Sabres, Devils and Wings, teams that would potentially fight the Habs for playoff spots.

Love Wendy's. Still Harvey's is better.
- Tee-Dot

They both died for me when Five Guys came around.

I used to dip them in a Frosty. The fries, not penis
- Tee-Dot

You’re missing out

Agree with this and Jeff Gorton was an excellent hire IMO, he did a good job with the Rangers. That said, Leafs picked 1st overall once under Shanahan and Leafs made the playoffs during Matthew's rookie season. Habs look to be a few years away from being a playoff team. This is especially true with the improvement of the Sabres, Devils and Wings, teams that would potentially fight the Habs for playoff spots.
- winsix

yeah, I have the feeling that the process could go a bit quicker than anticipated if everything goes well but I try to avoid looking too far ahead and rather focus on the current positives. right now it isn't always pretty but I feel they're heading in the right direction.

He’s one of the worst picks if he’s much worse than other players in the draft that they didn’t take. There’s no way you can say that right now since no one has really done anything.
- Canada Cup

Sorry for your confusion. I said one of the worst picks in the last 30 years. Has (frank) all to do with what was picked in 2022 really. Even so, we'll see, maybe he's a candidate to be offer sheeted by the Canes. The comparison is Slafkovsky to the other 30 guys on the list.