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tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 23 @ 3:10 PM ET
I do not think it’s the end of the world it just seems like a case of sunk cost fallacy by management. Especially now that he’s being healthy scratched. Seems silly to keep him around unless they’re working on throwing him into a deal to get rid of the contract. We got rid of reaves for the same reason…

I didn’t start this conversation

- picklerick

Neither did I.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 23 @ 3:10 PM ET
If I’m a lesser team that can benefit from retaining I do it, same with Chicago. In Vancouvers case they have a better roster than chicago so yea it’s less likely.
- Slimtj100


Its a completely different situation to retain 50% for the remainder of the current season versus retaining this year plus the following 2 years.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 23 @ 3:10 PM ET
The key word there.
- tomburton99


and the other night too
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jan 23 @ 3:10 PM ET
can you imagine they only gave him 20 games before they pulled the plug, and then he caught on somewhere else and got his game going?

I think they needed to give him the chance they gave him and the plug pull is coming soon

- jimbro83


We’re not disagreeing even though you seem to think we are
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 23 @ 3:11 PM ET
We’re not disagreeing even though you seem to think we are
- picklerick


you are the one who complained about his "usage" and then turned that into his cap hit
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 23 @ 3:11 PM ET
and the other night too

- jimbro83

And the other 38 he's played?
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jan 23 @ 3:11 PM ET
I do not think it’s the end of the world it just seems like a case of sunk cost fallacy by management. Especially now that he’s being healthy scratched. Seems silly to keep him around unless they’re working on throwing him into a deal to get rid of the contract. We got rid of reaves for the same reason…
- picklerick

They’ve probably been waiting for him to pop. It hasn’t happen. He does provide a need we have but he just isn’t doing it. Scoring isn’t it either. I never for a second thought that trade was about him being a scorer/pt producer. He was brought in to be heavy component and teams need that in the playoffs. So if he goes we would still need that unfortunately
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jan 23 @ 3:12 PM ET
you are the one who complained about his "usage" and then turned that into his cap hit
- jimbro83


I misspoke (typed). You know what I mean. I’ve said it before

But if you wanna keep arguing against a straw man I won’t stop you
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 23 @ 3:13 PM ET
And the other 38 he's played?
- tomburton99


pretty sure I just explained my opinion that they needed to give him a fair shot this year, it's insane not to think that
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 23 @ 3:14 PM ET
pretty sure I just explained my opinion that they needed to give him a fair shot this year, it's insane not to think that
- jimbro83

Ok then no problem then. Continue to carry his 1.5 million dollar cap hit.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 23 @ 3:15 PM ET
I misspoke (typed). You know what I mean. I’ve said it before

But if you wanna keep arguing against a straw man I won’t stop you

- picklerick


see Ive seen Tom complain about the Buchnevich trade 20 times a day plus, mostly on twitter, since the trade happened and I know he can't have a reasonable conversation about this

who cares if Blais was put 10 minutes of total powerplay time earlier this season? holy crap
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jan 23 @ 3:16 PM ET
They’ve probably been waiting for him to pop. It hasn’t happen. He does provide a need we have but he just isn’t doing it. Scoring isn’t it either. I never for a second thought that trade was about him being a scorer/pt producer. He was brought in to be heavy component and teams need that in the playoffs. So if he goes we would still need that unfortunately
- Slimtj100


Sure, likely. They did seem pretty pumped to put him on Mika’s wing to start the season but whatever, that’s not important really.

I didn’t like the trade at the time like many other people (wanted more for buch, understanding he was a cap casualty)

He’s sucked all year, which is somewhat understandable given the circumstances.

It should be reasonably obvious now that he has no place in the lineup and is making too much to be a spot player.

That should clear it up hopefully
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jan 23 @ 3:16 PM ET
see Ive seen Tom complain about the Buchnevich trade 20 times a day plus, mostly on twitter, since the trade happened and I know he can't have a reasonable conversation about this

who cares if Blais was put 10 minutes of total powerplay time earlier this season? holy crap

- jimbro83


Ok, just so we’re clear. Tom and I are different people
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 23 @ 3:17 PM ET
Ok, just so we’re clear. Tom and I are different people
- picklerick


you think that's tough, how about because TJ and I are brothers people thought I wanted Chytil traded
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jan 23 @ 3:18 PM ET
you think that's tough, how about because TJ and I are brothers people thought I wanted Chytil traded
- jimbro83



SO WHATS YOURE EXCUSE FOR ARGUING POINTS SOMEONE ELSE IS MAKING WITH ME?! You of all people, as you just made clear, should understand
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 23 @ 3:20 PM ET
see Ive seen Tom complain about the Buchnevich trade 20 times a day plus, mostly on twitter, since the trade happened and I know he can't have a reasonable conversation about this

who cares if Blais was put 10 minutes of total powerplay time earlier this season? holy crap

- jimbro83

You can follow and block people on twitter at your free will.

In this forum I rarely mention it. Brough it up Friday. It was brought Saturday, not by me.

Why do you think I can control your life?
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jan 23 @ 3:20 PM ET
see Ive seen Tom complain about the Buchnevich trade 20 times a day plus, mostly on twitter, since the trade happened and I know he can't have a reasonable conversation about this

who cares if Blais was put 10 minutes of total powerplay time earlier this season? holy crap

- jimbro83

Drury really messed up on the Buch trade. Put way to much value in Blais, even if he remained healthy.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 23 @ 3:21 PM ET
see Ive seen Tom complain about the Buchnevich trade 20 times a day plus, mostly on twitter, since the trade happened and I know he can't have a reasonable conversation about this

who cares if Blais was put 10 minutes of total powerplay time earlier this season? holy crap

- jimbro83

Let me type this out slowly.


Why... Is... He... On... The... Power... Play... At.. All?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 23 @ 3:21 PM ET
you think that's tough, how about because TJ and I are brothers people thought I wanted Chytil traded
- jimbro83

Drury really messed up on the Buch trade. Put way to much value in Blais, even if he remained healthy.
- nyrangers9479


Just so we're clear, not me.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 23 @ 3:21 PM ET
Let me type this out slowly.


Why... Is... He... On... The... Power... Play... At.. All?

- tomburton99


well went it happened awhile ago it was to give him a shot, in front of the net to try and create some havoc
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 23 @ 3:23 PM ET
well went it happened awhile ago it was to give him a shot, in front of the net to try and create some havoc
- jimbro83

You think his 1 career NHL power play goal, carries that much weight?
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jan 23 @ 3:23 PM ET
well went it happened awhile ago it was to give him a shot, in front of the net to try and create some havoc
- jimbro83


I don’t give a poop what they do or have done with PP2 if it doesn’t involve changing PP1
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 23 @ 3:23 PM ET
You think his 1 career NHL power play goal, carries that much weight?
- tomburton99


holy (frank)
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jan 23 @ 3:24 PM ET
Sure, likely. They did seem pretty pumped to put him on Mika’s wing to start the season but whatever, that’s not important really.

I didn’t like the trade at the time like many other people (wanted more for buch, understanding he was a cap casualty)

He’s sucked all year, which is somewhat understandable given the circumstances.

It should be reasonably obvious now that he has no place in the lineup and is making too much to be a spot player.

That should clear it up hopefully

- picklerick

I said all along to just give him a chance and be fair to the guy. But I think it’s time to move on now after half the season. I try my best to be fair to guys and not judge solely on a pie chart🤷🏻‍♂️
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 23 @ 3:24 PM ET
I don’t give a poop what they do with PP2 if it doesn’t involve changing PP1
- picklerick


well thats the point isn't it, powerplay 2 is a non thing on this team but Tom (NOT YOU) is losing his mind over 10 minutes of it earlier in the season


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