“ Having a belief is not wrong. Openly judging or expecting someone to live their life according to your beliefs is.L

Right on. And, with no innuendo or pun intended, that goes both ways.
- Ratsreign

Yup exactly. That’s why I let this slide when it comes to Provorov he hasn’t openly judged anyone, to my knowledge anyways.

Actually I disagree with the bolded. He would, his family would, and his religion would know that it he was wearing it to support something they consider a sin. So yes, it would effect his personal life rather dramatically.

As I mentioned it’s not like he publicly judges people who’s sexuality isn’t accepted by his religion and that’s why he’s not doing anything wrong.

Having a belief is not wrong. Openly judging or expecting someone to live their life according to your beliefs is.

But yeah, (frank) the flyers, that I agree with whole heartedly
- Dozzer

But if it’s religion it’s ok even when the head of his church equates homosexuality to Naziism and says gay pride parades are the reason for the war against Ukraine. Wrapping a decision in religion doesn’t make the decision ok. You still judge the decision on its merits.

Trade Holl.

No one is expecting him to live his life according to anyones beliefs. Its wearing a jersey with altered colours for 20mins. As cc pointed out, he has no issues wearing military ones.
I mean if the issue is about certain colours on a jerseys, just imagine the poor rich souls who had to wear those ugly winnie the pooh bruins jerseys, those canuck red and black jerseys from the 90's, those 90's islanders fisherman jersey or the habs pajama jerseys.
Out of 2000 "gods" one of them should have been against those lol.
Anywho, its been dealt with.
- Fakepartofme

You seem to believe the NHL is the most important thing to players.

It isn’t, their beliefs and family are. Expecting someone to abandon their beliefs is flat out wrong and against the constitution (or the charter of rights and freedoms in Canada).

Unless there’s something in his contract demanding he takes part they have to respect his decision when it comes to living his life within his beliefs.

Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing.

The NHL - purely through accident - did the right thing.

Someone exercised their right to express their beliefs (to be clear - I completely disagree with him).

There were no repercussions from the team or league - and I can't help but think that it would be a very, very interesting legal question if they did (that neither the team or the league would want to go through).

Now we the general public are free to judge Mr. Provorov, and form our own opinions on him.

Isn't that how it is supposed to work?

I've also been running some slightly different scenarios over in my head. What if a Muslim player refused to wear the pride jersey?

What if a Jehovah's Witness refused to support a team promotion of a hospital, because it did blood transfusions? Or a Catholic who refused to support a hospital that performed abortions?

What about a pacifist refusing to support military night?

I realize that the world of professional sports is different from the real world, but my employer can't force me to wear a button or hat supporting a cause.
- Atomic Wedgie

If the world can pretend-smile its way through a WC in Qatar that includes Iran and an olympics in China then this seems pretty manageable.

You seem to believe the NHL is the most important thing to players.

It isn’t, their beliefs and family are. Expecting someone to abandon their beliefs is flat out wrong and against the constitution (or the charter of rights and freedoms in Canada).

Unless there’s something in his contract demanding he takes part they have to respect his decision when it comes to living his life within his beliefs.
- Dozzer

Torts said he would bench anyone who took a knee.

If the world can pretend-smile its way through a WC in Qatar that includes Iran and an olympics in China then this seems pretty manageable.
- The Law

You don’t expect us to talk about last night’s game do you?

Torts said he would bench anyone who took a knee.
- Canada Cup

But he would respect them while benching them.

Trade Holl.
- Strider

We're past this now.
Onto extend, dont extend, hug, slap or make love to dubas....or a combo of all.

Well I didn't think it was possible but Nylander's goal last night somehow made me even more gay than I already was.

But if it’s religion it’s ok even when the head of his church equates homosexuality to Naziism and says gay pride parades are the reason for the war against Ukraine. Wrapping a decision in religion doesn’t make the decision ok. You still judge the decision on its merits.
- Canada Cup

You have to listen to everything I’ve said.

He cannot be judged for his churches behaviour unless he behaves that way himself.

As soon as our governments start forcing people to live certain ways they’re no better than they’re no better than the nazis with the exception of killing people. Still just as controlling, not healthy and should not be supported.

A government can demand you don’t openly speak out (his religion did from their home and not him whatsoever) but they can’t demand you believe what they want you to. The government is supposed to listen to the people, not the other way around.

Either way to get this back to hockey the flyers handled this correctly and I refuse to see demanding someone to do something they don’t want to do without legal support as acceptable

You seem to believe the NHL is the most important thing to players.

It isn’t, their beliefs and family are. Expecting someone to abandon their beliefs is flat out wrong and against the constitution (or the charter of rights and freedoms in Canada).

Unless there’s something in his contract demanding he takes part they have to respect his decision when it comes to living his life within his beliefs.
- Dozzer

agree, people are allowed to make up any beliefs they want and use them whenever they want

We're past this now.
Onto extend, dont extend, hug, slap or make love to dubas....or a combo of all.
- Fakepartofme

Don't forget Rielly, and also first round of the playoffs. Bottomless source of hockey talk.

Torts said he would bench anyone who took a knee.
- Canada Cup

In 2016 and he took that back in 2020


https://russianmachinenev...ring-the-national-anthem/

agree, people are allowed to make up any beliefs they want and use them whenever they want
- senstroll

So long as they are legal anyways.

And not wanting to openly support someone’s sexuality is not illegal.

Well I didn't think it was possible but Nylander's goal last night somehow made me even more gay than I already was.
- Zezel

It was splooshtastic.

Well I didn't think it was possible but Nylander's goal last night somehow made me even more gay than I already was.
- Zezel

which goal cause your happiness?

for me it was the OT goal.

Don't forget Rielly, and also first round of the playoffs. Bottomless source of hockey talk.
- Zezel

One can of worms at a time Zezel.

which goal cause your happiness?

for me it was the OT goal.
- dmnted

The OT goal of course. Top 10 goal of the year candidate.

One can of worms at a time Zezel.
- Fakepartofme

Mmmm, gummy worms.

Dimitri Filipovic
@DimFilipovic
brought this up on the PDOcast today..

Ducks in 560 5v5 minutes with Adam Henrique on the ice this season: up 26-24

Ducks in 1580 5v5 minutes without Adam Henrique on the ice this season: down 102-40 oh my god

this seems almost impossible

Ok so much for everyone being respectful and mindful on the topic so now it's off limits.

Stop the discussion on this and stop taking pot shots at other people or their opinions - EVERYONE.

Move on to talk about hockey or take it to PM's or another place if you want to debate the topic but not here.

I will simply delete posts at this point about it as a starting point, not sure I can be any clearer than that.

We're past this now.
Onto extend, dont extend, hug, slap or make love to dubas....or a combo of all.
- Fakepartofme

Holl for GM - solve two problems

Holl for GM - solve two problems
- Canada Cup

Thinking outside the box, I like it.

Thinking outside the box, I like it.
- Scabeh

so you watched the last episode of Murdoch Mysteries I see.

way to go George Crabtree