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Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 18 @ 8:30 PM ET
Haven't gotten too deep into but they're at $50m for next year right now.

$7 for Cozens
$3.5 for good guy Okie
$3 for new face off guy
$1.5 for new Pysyk
$800k for Johnson

That's a floor team

- Hank Balling


Don't you think Tage, Cozens, Krebs, Jost is a near lock for next year?

They should really just move on from Kyle, and he has no business making 3.5m, but you're probably right.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 18 @ 8:30 PM ET
Holy (frank), they're really planning a 90 minute event tomorrow night? GR said it starts at 6 and puck drop is 7:30.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jan 18 @ 8:31 PM ET
Don't you think Tage, Cozens, Krebs, Jost is a near lock for next year?

They should really just move on from Kyle, and he has no business making 3.5m, but you're probably right.

- Lunaion


Yup, Jost too. Making $2m this year so give him the bump for 1 year to take him to FA

It's very easy to make this a floor team while selling a vision of the future
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 18 @ 8:34 PM ET
Haven't gotten too deep into but they're at $50m for next year right now.

$7 for Cozens
$3.5 for good guy Okie
$3 for new face off guy
$1.5 for new Pysyk
$800k for Johnson

That's a floor team

- Hank Balling

Better spend more than 1.5 on a Pysyk, cause there defense is a joke.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 18 @ 8:37 PM ET
Yup, Jost too. Making $2m this year so give him the bump for 1 year to take him to FA

It's very easy to make this a floor team while selling a vision of the future

- Hank Balling


Floor isn't even a thought with a Cozens extension in place.

Makes me wonder if they will be unnecessarily generous with their 4th line. Still think there's a good chance he retires and we don't have to worry about it.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 18 @ 8:37 PM ET
Yup, Jost too. Making $2m this year so give him the bump for 1 year to take him to FA

It's very easy to make this a floor team while selling a vision of the future

- Hank Balling

https://giphy.com/gifs/60...to-vid-koGvUQELYj4Tv4zc3p
That's not the vision I want!!
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 18 @ 8:43 PM ET
Floor isn't even a thought with a Cozens extension in place.

Makes me wonder if they will be unnecessarily generous with their 4th line. Still think there's a good chance he retires and we don't have to worry about it.

- Lunaion

roughly 19 mil off the books if they do not bring back okposo and girgens

also off the books would be coho, bishop, bjork, vinnie, anderson


if cozens signs for 7 mil, adding roughly 12.7 mi in tage, samuelsson, cozens


still gotta spend some cheddar
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 18 @ 8:51 PM ET
roughly 19 mil off the books if they do not bring back okposo and girgens

also off the books would be coho, bishop, bjork, vinnie, anderson


if cozens signs for 7 mil, adding roughly 12.7 mi in tage, samuelsson, cozens


still gotta spend some cheddar

- homiedclown


50m on 15 players atm. Cozens @7m +7 guys at 1m average = 64m.

Napkin math, but floor looks like a non-issue to me.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jan 18 @ 8:57 PM ET
roughly 19 mil off the books if they do not bring back okposo and girgens

also off the books would be coho, bishop, bjork, vinnie, anderson


if cozens signs for 7 mil, adding roughly 12.7 mi in tage, samuelsson, cozens


still gotta spend some cheddar

- homiedclown


What are you factoring for Dahlin?
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jan 18 @ 8:57 PM ET
Holy (frank), they're really planning a 90 minute event tomorrow night? GR said it starts at 6 and puck drop is 7:30.
- Wetbandit1


Ryan Miller embodies everything it means to be a Sabre in the modern era: losing in the biggest moments and getting run over.

It only hurts because it's true.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 18 @ 8:58 PM ET
What are you factoring for Dahlin?
- Sabretooth9


He won't kick in until the following year.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 18 @ 9:10 PM ET
What are you factoring for Dahlin?
- Sabretooth9

Non factor this year even if he signed a extension
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jan 18 @ 9:11 PM ET
Ryan Miller embodies everything it means to be a Sabre in the modern era: losing in the biggest moments and getting run over.

It only hurts because it's true.

- lacaprup

Dude, his kid felt this burn damn
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jan 18 @ 9:32 PM ET
Dude, his kid felt this burn damn
- BeadyEyedDouche


I stand by every word of it. There is no joy when I think of Miller. None. The great moments of those teams I associate with the offensive players. It's very hard for me to find great memories with Miller. I do not deny his greatness at all. It's just i think of him as such a crotchety old man who rarely seemed joyful. And, after black Monday or w/e day of the week it was this team was never a serious threat to win a cup again.

I'm curious to watch the video tomorrow and see what memories and feeling are stirred. As of right now my Mt. Rushmore of Ryan Miller memories:
Lucic runs him
Sid golden goal
Sid Ice bowl goal
Blows 2 - 1 lead in 3rd period of game 7

Tough.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 18 @ 9:36 PM ET
I stand by every word of it. There is no joy when I think of Miller. None. The great moments of those teams I associate with with the offensive players. It's very hard for me to find great memories with Miller. I do not deny his greatness at all. It's just i think of him as such a crotchety old man who rarely seemed joyful. And, after black Monday or w/e day of the week it was this team was never a serious threat to win a cup again.

I'm curious to watch the video tomorrow and see what memories and feeling are stirred. As of right now my Mt. Rushmore of Ryan Miller memories:
Lucic runs him
Sid golden goal
Sid Ice bowl goal
Blows 3 - 1 lead in 3rd period of game 7

Tough.

- lacaprup

it was a 2-1 lead in game 7
https://www.espn.com/nhl/game/_/gameId/260601007
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jan 18 @ 9:37 PM ET
it was a 2-1 lead in game 7
https://www.espn.com/nhl/game/_/gameId/260601007

- homiedclown


Typo corrected but late. Thank you though
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 18 @ 9:40 PM ET
Dude, his kid felt this burn damn
- BeadyEyedDouche

miller's last playoff game as a sabre

he got yanked in game 7 vs the flyers and refused to sit on the bench and watch the rest of the series


lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jan 18 @ 10:13 PM ET
Don't you think Tage, Cozens, Krebs, Jost is a near lock for next year?

They should really just move on from Kyle, and he has no business making 3.5m, but you're probably right.

- Lunaion

Krebs and Jost are playing good hockey. Especially Krebs who’s been yanked around all year. Jost will find his way to the Larry line and will get an upgrade from Girgs and Okposo. Krebs will be our 3rd line C
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 18 @ 10:26 PM ET
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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jan 18 @ 10:27 PM ET
I stand by every word of it. There is no joy when I think of Miller. None. The great moments of those teams I associate with the offensive players. It's very hard for me to find great memories with Miller. I do not deny his greatness at all. It's just i think of him as such a crotchety old man who rarely seemed joyful. And, after black Monday or w/e day of the week it was this team was never a serious threat to win a cup again.

I'm curious to watch the video tomorrow and see what memories and feeling are stirred. As of right now my Mt. Rushmore of Ryan Miller memories:
Lucic runs him
Sid golden goal
Sid Ice bowl goal
Blows 2 - 1 lead in 3rd period of game 7

Tough.

- lacaprup

Preaching to the choir here, I was a Biron fan.
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jan 18 @ 10:32 PM ET
Dach was a nice add by the Habs. Good news is, even if we don’t make the playoffs, we have some street cred now so players might want to play here
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 18 @ 11:18 PM ET
But his contract is nowhere near a steal like tage is so he sucks!

And adams sucks cause he could not get sammy on a better contract

And Adams sucks cause Ventura does not suck!

And Granato sucks cause he sat the kids then didnt sit the kids then sat the kids then unsat the kids and now they dont know where to sit!!!

- ZiggyBuff


Ziggyroma?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 18 @ 11:22 PM ET
They're not sending their TV crew to Chicago for a road game. I'm not holding my breath that they're going to add meaningful salary.

Would love to be wrong about that.

The new COO is a money guy, not a hockey guy.

Just reading the tea leaves

- Hank Balling


I heard thru the grapevine, that the new COO is going to help with stadium repairs/ replacement.

*Not physically picking up a hammer
FireRuff
Joined: 02.06.2013

Jan 19 @ 12:16 AM ET
Keep losing boys, you need a good chance at picking up Bedard since your coaching staff is doing a pretty shiddy job of teaching anyone to play defense.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 19 @ 3:06 AM ET
I dont see them waiving and replacing Comrie. I don't see them adding a top-6 forward (might not need one anyway), and if Johnson signs, they can easily fill out the d group with a Pysyk type.

Extend Cozens, Jost, Okposo.

Sign/trade for a faceoff bottom 6 guy and a depth D, plus Johnson. Cap compliant.

This isnt what I want them to do but I think it's what they will do.

- Hank Balling


They might not need a top 6 forward?

I'm worn out by that line of thinking.

To be a top quality team, a strong top 9 is needed, not just a strong top 6.

Having another quality forward, if not two, would go a long ways.

Imagine Cozens with two higher quality wingers, and a third line with Peterka and Quinn.

The team would finally have secondary and even tertiary scoring.

I agree that they won't do much at forward though as they'll point to the 2024-2025 season and just say Savoie and Kulich.
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