Krebs last 11 games - 4 points 45% xg%

Pegulaville called him “fantastic”

Mitts last 11 games - 46% xg% and 10 points

“He’s killing us”

It’s becoming a joke
- sbroads24

We’ve played 37 games, and if you consider the whole pie all three of Peterka, Jost, Krebs have been better at even strength.

You’re right probably not. Which is why they should attempt to add another really good forward and D.

They have 2 consistently good lines that play their role (Thompson and Krebs line)

They have 2 other ones that are streaky
- sbroads24

Feels like you want that F to break up the Mitts line.

Feels like you want that F to break up the Mitts line.
- Lunaion

Sure. I’m fine breaking up that line or even moving out one of them for an impact player.

I’m not disputing that they couldn’t upgrade. I’m disputing this notion that they are some black hole. They simply haven’t been in weeks.

Mittelstadt can be very frustrating at times, and Olofsson can be completely invisible for games at a time. But I’m sorry, you aren’t ever getting 3 great primary assists in one game out of Rasmus Asplund or Vinny. And you certainly aren’t getting 30 goals from either.

Good stuff👍👍

Come on thirtysixensons, many posters criticize both olofsson and mitts.

When those guys play well, those posters look like fools.

They just cry and complain. Then deflect.

Calling a guy on pace for 30 goals a mistake start by the coach. Utter ignorance
- Boss34

They deserve the criticism. Fantastic that Olofsson is on pace to score 30 goals. He did most of that work so far in the first month of the season. But let's discount the other 2 months he disappeared. Ignorance is praising a guy who scores every 5gms or so and does nothing in-between. Glad Olofsson helped last night and Mitts seems to have turned a corner which is great. But ignorance is forgetting about the 2 months of crap.

Top offense in the league, let's take ~45 goals/ ~90pts between the two out of the lineup
- joevthree

OK Now go and count what Olofsson has over the last couple months. Fantastic they are starting to help. But let's just forget about 2 months of basically nothing from Olofsson and a few sniffs from Mitts. Hey they help, so who cares if they barely help for months at a time and then show up for a game or 2 and then disappear for another 10.

8 game losing streak without samuelsson and other key defenseman.

Let that sink in for a minute
- Boss34

OK and in half those games we scored 2 goals once and 1 goal 3 times. The defense was hurting, but it definitely wasn't just them.

This is how I will know KA is serious about this year. A goalie with arrive that doesn't need a ton of offence to win.
Ullmark in Boston looks good.
Oh why KA

Nice win last night, finding ways!! 42pts and games in hand on everyone.

They deserve the criticism. Fantastic that Olofsson is on pace to score 30 goals. He did most of that work so far in the first month of the season. But let's discount the other 2 months he disappeared. Ignorance is praising a guy who scores every 5gms or so and does nothing in-between. Glad Olofsson helped last night and Mitts seems to have turned a corner which is great. But ignorance is forgetting about the 2 months of crap.
- Buff36

Didn’t Mitts have a pretty solid end to last season? Or was it the season before? I’ve been one of his biggest detractors. There is no doubt the talent is there. He is only 24. Could Mitts finally be putting it together? Or can he be more of what we’ve seen the last few weeks vs. the black hole stretch? Let’s see if Donnie can keep whispering.

As for Olo, I think he is what he is. Donnie trying to build his confidence. If Mitts is what he’s been the last few and you couple them with a little d responsible grit on the other wing. You can probably have a pretty solid line.

I think the d needs the help right now. Dahlin and Power just can’t eat the minutes they are over 82 games. Find a 2rd. Slot the 3rd pair accordingly.

As for goalie. Man I’m not sure. I don’t know if it’s the team in front. Growing pains. Both. I still figure out how to keep 3. Upl needs to play. Let’s see what we got in him.

Does anyone have any fancy stats on the team d. Vs Upl numbers. Is the team still allowing mad high danger chances? Does Donnie need to tweak things a little or is it the players he has to work with.

If I could ask for one decent move. I’d start with the D. I might put a call in to Anaheim as well just to ask Gibson, “how do you like me now”….

Didn’t Mitts have a pretty solid end to last season? Or was it the season before? I’ve been one of his biggest detractors. There is no doubt the talent is there. He is only 24. Could Mitts finally be putting it together? Or can he be more of what we’ve seen the last few weeks vs. the black hole stretch? Let’s see if Donnie can keep whispering.

As for Olo, I think he is what he is. Donnie trying to build his confidence. If Mitts is what he’s been the last few and you couple them with a little d responsible grit on the other wing. You can probably have a pretty solid line.

I think the d needs the help right now. Dahlin and Power just can’t eat the minutes they are over 82 games. Find a 2rd. Slot the 3rd pair accordingly.

As for goalie. Man I’m not sure. I don’t know if it’s the team in front. Growing pains. Both. I still figure out how to keep 3. Upl needs to play. Let’s see what we got in him.

Does anyone have any fancy stats on the team d. Vs Upl numbers. Is the team still allowing mad high danger chances? Does Donnie need to tweak things a little or is it the players he has to work with.

If I could ask for one decent move. I’d start with the D. I might put a call in to Anaheim as well just to ask Gibson, “how do you like me now”….
- Gr8daygo

Gibson this season: 26 games played 3.81 .901

Didn’t Mitts have a pretty solid end to last season? Or was it the season before? I’ve been one of his biggest detractors. There is no doubt the talent is there. He is only 24. Could Mitts finally be putting it together? Or can he be more of what we’ve seen the last few weeks vs. the black hole stretch? Let’s see if Donnie can keep whispering.

As for Olo, I think he is what he is. Donnie trying to build his confidence. If Mitts is what he’s been the last few and you couple them with a little d responsible grit on the other wing. You can probably have a pretty solid line.

I think the d needs the help right now. Dahlin and Power just can’t eat the minutes they are over 82 games. Find a 2rd. Slot the 3rd pair accordingly.

As for goalie. Man I’m not sure. I don’t know if it’s the team in front. Growing pains. Both. I still figure out how to keep 3. Upl needs to play. Let’s see what we got in him.

Does anyone have any fancy stats on the team d. Vs Upl numbers. Is the team still allowing mad high danger chances? Does Donnie need to tweak things a little or is it the players he has to work with.

If I could ask for one decent move. I’d start with the D. I might put a call in to Anaheim as well just to ask Gibson, “how do you like me now”….
- Gr8daygo

Yes Mitts did and I really do like what he's done since being with Tage and Tuch, seems to have woken him up. I hope him and Olofsson are turning the page cause it makes us a better team. And I agree with the D, but as I believe 39 alluded to they think Joker is that 4th. I would really like a Murphy style brought in to help eat some minutes next to Power and think Clague Joker could make good 3rd pair playing 15min a night. Think are goaltending while not the greatest yet is solid enough to win games if they improve the D. And especially if we continue scoring the way we do.

Dahlin on Wearing the Black and Red Goathead: " We Love it, Makes us feel EVIL" Love that quote

3rd pair LD. How many min do you expect out of him?

Fitz or Bryson or Boosh as the 7th.

We seem to be asking a lot to get a 2rd upgrade. Do you think we’d get a 2rd. And an upgrade to Clague?
- Gr8daygo

Hypothetically: If the Sabres add in chycrun or a “good” top 4 d.

Joker as the 3rd d pairing is ideal. That is a good example of a 3rd pairing d I want.

Bryson is a defensive zone nightmare. He loses one on one battles in front of the net all the time.

His beautiful plus minus.

38/75 points on the powerplay.


- Hank Balling

And only 25% of Olofsson’s points on the PP

Not a good look for those who claim he’s a “PP specialist”

A suggestion about who to send down if the Sabres decide to keep 3 goalies that no one has mentioned. I am wondering what you think about sending Krebs down since he is waivers exempt. I think it might be a good idea because:

Obviously, to begin with, it relieves the need to put someone on waivers who they don't want to potentially lose and still keep UPL up in Buffalo. Regarding Krebs, though he seems to be learning a lot with Okposo and Girgs and his game is improving, I think he could use some time down in Rochester to play top line minutes where he can work on his top line scoring acumen. He was phenomenal last year in Rochester. In the playoffs he had 11 assists in 10 games. Krebs will never work on those playmaking skills as much on that line. I think you can explain to him that it is not a demotion, but they need to do something that virtually no team does, keep three goalies, without losing a player that is part of the current Sabres family if they don't have to. Plus it seems only temporary. I can't believe that they will go with three goaltenders for the duration of the season.

There are other benefits. First, Rochester could use the extra scoring to push towards the playoffs. I do not believe that any of the players in Rochester have the playmaking skills that Krebs does. While he is down there the players who play with him will learn some things that they might not otherwise. I also think that whatever bad feeling Krebs might have for going down that they will be overcome when he sees how much better he got from last year.

More importantly, the Sabres can move Asplund up to see what value he has for team going forward. He could slot right in where Krebs is now employed. Plus playing Asplund will hopefully enhance his trade value in case Buffalo does try to get that 2RD. He did get votes for the Selke last year, did he not? Being a healthy scratch is devaluing him I would think.

Overall, I think that is a good alternative to putting a non-waiver exempt player out there for the taking, unless someone gets hurt in the interim. What do you think? [img][/img]

Sabres fans are funny:

The Sabres have literally the most goals for and best offense in the nhl

And people are still crying about mitts and olofsson. It’s hilarious.

I freaking hate olofsson and I would not trade him right now.

Keep the number 1 offense together.


If you trade olofsson or mitts or both. You completely kill the offensive depth. The Sabres roll 4 lines. Who are you replacing them with??

Kulich, Rosen aren’t NHL ready. They are having nice seasons in roch but they aren’t having JJ and Quinn type production. (Not saying Kulich and Rosen are bad)

Krebs. Don’t make him carry the load yet of centering his own line with rookies.

The lack of common sense is hilarious.

A suggestion about who to send down if the Sabres decide to keep 3 goalies on the team at the same time that no one has seemed to think about. I am wondering what you might think about sending Krebs down since he is waivers exempt. Why do I think it might be a good idea :

Obviously, to begin with, it relieves the need to put someone on waivers who they don't want to potentially lose and still keep UPL up in Buffalo. Regarding Krebs though he seems to be learning a lot with Okposo and Girgs and his game is improving, I think he could use some time down in Rochester to play top line minutes where he can work on his top line scoring acumen, and in particular his ability to make assists. He was phenomenal last year in Rochester. Especially in the playoffs where he had 11 assists in 10 games. Krebs will never work on those skills nearly as much on that line. I think you can explain to him that it is not a demotion, but they need to do something that virtually no team does, keep three goalies, without losing a player that is part of the current Sabres family if they don't have to. Plus it is obviously temporary since I cannot believe that they will go with three goaltenders for the duration of the season. At that point, they may have already lost one of Fitz, Bryson or Clague once Jokiharju comes back.

There are other benefits. First, Rochester could use the extra scoring to push towards the playoffs. They are in a tight race right now and I do not believe that any of the players in Rochester have the playmaking skills that Krebs does. While he is down there the players who play with him will learn some things that they might not otherwise get a chance to if he were not down there with him. Maybe his teammates can carry some of that forward in the playoff run once he goes back up. I also think that whatever bad feeling Krebs might have for going down that they will be overcome when he sees how much better he got from last year while he is down there.

More importantly, the Sabres can move Asplund up to see what value he has for team going forward. He could slot right into the line in which Krebs is now employed. Plus playing Asplund will hopefully enhance his trade value in case Buffalo does try to get that 2RD that I think they need. He did get votes for the Selke last year, did he not? He already has value but being a healthy scratch is devaluing him I would think.

Overall, I think that is a good alternative to putting a non-waiver exempt player out there for the taking, unless someone gets hurt in the interim. What do you think?
- sabrebuzz[img][/img]

Interesting, don't know if that's a good look for a player that has been playing well.

Sure. I’m fine breaking up that line or even moving out one of them for an impact player.

I’m not disputing that they couldn’t upgrade. I’m disputing this notion that they are some black hole. They simply haven’t been in weeks.

Mittelstadt can be very frustrating at times, and Olofsson can be completely invisible for games at a time. But I’m sorry, you aren’t ever getting 3 great primary assists in one game out of Rasmus Asplund or Vinny. And you certainly aren’t getting 30 goals from either.
- sbroads24

It’s weird when we agree
🤣🤣🤣

A suggestion about who to send down if the Sabres decide to keep 3 goalies that no one has mentioned. I am wondering what you think about sending Krebs down since he is waivers exempt. I think it might be a good idea because:

Obviously, to begin with, it relieves the need to put someone on waivers who they don't want to potentially lose and still keep UPL up in Buffalo. Regarding Krebs, though he seems to be learning a lot with Okposo and Girgs and his game is improving, I think he could use some time down in Rochester to play top line minutes where he can work on his top line scoring acumen. He was phenomenal last year in Rochester. In the playoffs he had 11 assists in 10 games. Krebs will never work on those playmaking skills as much on that line. I think you can explain to him that it is not a demotion, but they need to do something that virtually no team does, keep three goalies, without losing a player that is part of the current Sabres family if they don't have to. Plus it seems only temporary. I can't believe that they will go with three goaltenders for the duration of the season.

There are other benefits. First, Rochester could use the extra scoring to push towards the playoffs. I do not believe that any of the players in Rochester have the playmaking skills that Krebs does. While he is down there the players who play with him will learn some things that they might not otherwise. I also think that whatever bad feeling Krebs might have for going down that they will be overcome when he sees how much better he got from last year.

More importantly, the Sabres can move Asplund up to see what value he has for team going forward. He could slot right in where Krebs is now employed. Plus playing Asplund will hopefully enhance his trade value in case Buffalo does try to get that 2RD. He did get votes for the Selke last year, did he not? Being a healthy scratch is devaluing him I would think.

Overall, I think that is a good alternative to putting a non-waiver exempt player out there for the taking, unless someone gets hurt in the interim. What do you think?
- sabrebuzz[img][/img]

Problem with your idea is that they tried Asplund at Center on that line (w Girgs & Okposo) at the start of the season- & it wasn’t working
They even tried with Girgs at Center & Asplund on the wing

That line didn’t get going till Krebs was moved down to Center it


So, not that I’m opposed to giving it another shot,
but idk that the Sabres would actually consider it?

Good stuff👍👍
- Buff36

https://theahl.com/stats/game-center/1024395


check out the penalties at the end of the rochester game

A suggestion about who to send down if the Sabres decide to keep 3 goalies that no one has mentioned. I am wondering what you think about sending Krebs down since he is waivers exempt. I think it might be a good idea because:

Obviously, to begin with, it relieves the need to put someone on waivers who they don't want to potentially lose and still keep UPL up in Buffalo. Regarding Krebs, though he seems to be learning a lot with Okposo and Girgs and his game is improving, I think he could use some time down in Rochester to play top line minutes where he can work on his top line scoring acumen. He was phenomenal last year in Rochester. In the playoffs he had 11 assists in 10 games. Krebs will never work on those playmaking skills as much on that line. I think you can explain to him that it is not a demotion, but they need to do something that virtually no team does, keep three goalies, without losing a player that is part of the current Sabres family if they don't have to. Plus it seems only temporary. I can't believe that they will go with three goaltenders for the duration of the season.

There are other benefits. First, Rochester could use the extra scoring to push towards the playoffs. I do not believe that any of the players in Rochester have the playmaking skills that Krebs does. While he is down there the players who play with him will learn some things that they might not otherwise. I also think that whatever bad feeling Krebs might have for going down that they will be overcome when he sees how much better he got from last year.

More importantly, the Sabres can move Asplund up to see what value he has for team going forward. He could slot right in where Krebs is now employed. Plus playing Asplund will hopefully enhance his trade value in case Buffalo does try to get that 2RD. He did get votes for the Selke last year, did he not? Being a healthy scratch is devaluing him I would think.

Overall, I think that is a good alternative to putting a non-waiver exempt player out there for the taking, unless someone gets hurt in the interim. What do you think?
- sabrebuzz[img][/img]

No, keep Krebs here. He finally had gotten his game up to NHL speed and you want to send him down.

You basically lose all progress he made.

Playing in a slower less skilled league won’t help him. Same goes with Quinn and JJ.

Bad take

Sabres fans are funny:

The Sabres have literally the most goals for and best offense in the nhl

And people are still crying about mitts and olofsson. It’s hilarious.

I freaking hate olofsson and I would not trade him right now.

Keep the number 1 offense together.


If you trade olofsson or mitts or both. You completely kill the offensive depth. The Sabres roll 4 lines. Who are you replacing them with??

Kulich, Rosen aren’t NHL ready. They are having nice seasons in roch but they aren’t having JJ and Quinn type production. (Not saying Kulich and Rosen are bad)

Krebs. Don’t make him carry the load yet of centering his own line with rookies.

The lack of common sense is hilarious.
- Sabretooth9

It’s embarrassing. Always need someone to b*tch about.

At some point in the season it was….

Thompson is a good 2C
Tuch needs to stop carrying the puck
Sit olofson bring up elmer
Mitts is a black hole
Power is lost
Krebs will turn out to be nothing
Samuelson kinda sucks
Cozens can be a decent 3C
Quinn needs to be sent down
Okposo is to slow
Could of had zegres instead of cozens
Skinners needs to start scoring
Girgs has 3 eyes
We need another lybuskyn
Bear bear bear!!!
UPL sucks
UPL is amazing
UPL sucks

Sabres fans are funny:

The Sabres have literally the most goals for and best offense in the nhl

And people are still crying about mitts and olofsson. It’s hilarious.

I freaking hate olofsson and I would not trade him right now.

Keep the number 1 offense together.


If you trade olofsson or mitts or both. You completely kill the offensive depth. The Sabres roll 4 lines. Who are you replacing them with??

Kulich, Rosen aren’t NHL ready. They are having nice seasons in roch but they aren’t having JJ and Quinn type production. (Not saying Kulich and Rosen are bad)

Krebs. Don’t make him carry the load yet of centering his own line with rookies.

The lack of common sense is hilarious.
- Sabretooth9

There’s ppl here (especially) who have been clamoring to bring up kids from Rochester
And some who are saying they’d trade Mitts & Olofsson for anything we could get

Trading either Mitts of Olofsson would be “ok” imo
But it’s gotta be for VALUE
Even if that means we have to add to them in order to upgrade

Shipping either out for (something like) a 3rd round pick would just be idiotic

Interesting, don't know if that's a good look for a player that has been playing well.
- Buff36

That may be true but I still think that Krebs can be shown that this is not a demotion for anything he has done. Sending him to Rochester not only to help the Sabres to avoid losing a player to waivers while keeping three goalies but also to allow him to work on his top level skills so that he can be more skilled overall player. Plus he will help Rochester in its playoff run. Hopefully, that will help Krebs see this temporary move, if it were made, as a good one for everyone invovled, including him.