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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 5 @ 7:48 PM ET
The kind of guy you don't pass on when you can draft him.

...

Wait.

- Scabeh

The habs made the wright choice in my book.....titled "How to fail at drafting"
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 5 @ 7:48 PM ET
As I said those guys were all two years older when they set those records. Forsberg scored 31 as a 19 year old. All the top scorers were two years older than Bedard. He likely won’t play in his 19 year old season because he will be in the nhl.
- TurdFergeson


Oh yes the massive difference between a 19 year old and 17 year old

Forsberg played fewer games and had a lot more points. End of story.
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Jan 5 @ 7:49 PM ET
No, I’m not kidding he’s 4th. First is Forsberg who had only played 14 games in this tourney and Bedard is already in game 16.

https://www.quanthockey.c...-time-points-leaders.html

As for Crosby an inch makes a significant difference when it comes to reach. Also if you plan to make a reference like that you better hope Bedard has a second liner behind him like Malkin or the opposition will be able to focus their D onto him more precisely.

Also I will go with averages. The majority of the public do not get taller after the age of 16, there’s the odd family (yours) who isn’t fully grown by the time they can drive a car but extremely far from the majority.

- Dozzer

For a bit of context it should be noted that one of those games was a 20 - 1 win vs Japan in which Forsberg scored 10 points.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jan 5 @ 7:50 PM ET
For a bit of context it should be noted that one of those games was a 20 - 1 win vs Japan in which Forsberg scored 10 points.
- BlueBallz

no need for facts like this
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jan 5 @ 7:52 PM ET
Oh yes the massive difference between a 19 year old and 17 year old

Forsberg played fewer games and had a lot more points. End of story.

- Dozzer



He got 10 point in one game vs Japan err something like that
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jan 5 @ 7:54 PM ET
Oh yes the massive difference between a 19 year old and 17 year old

Forsberg played fewer games and had a lot more points. End of story.

- Dozzer

Two years can be huge. It was for me.
And you said “he’s only 4th overall”
Only…
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 5 @ 7:54 PM ET
For a bit of context it should be noted that one of those games was a 20 - 1 win vs Japan in which Forsberg scored 10 points.
- BlueBallz


So? He was the reason is was that score.

I’m Canadian and even I’ll admit Canadian hockey fans are biased as hell. It’s rather amusing. Literally have multiple delusional people guaranteeing a 17 year old will be one of the most NHL dominant players ever. That’s so ridiculous.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 5 @ 7:55 PM ET
He got 10 point in one game vs Japan err something like that
- dmnted


So? If they made the tourney they were an acceptable tourney team. Stop with the lame ass excuses please.

(frank) sakes boys use logic for once and not “gut feelings”
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 5 @ 7:56 PM ET
Two years can be huge. It was for me.
And you said “he’s only 4th overall”
Only…

- Woderwick


Forsberg played LESS than him… apparently you guys can’t grasp that and desperately need excuses.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jan 5 @ 7:56 PM ET
Baby Z

Mintyukov / Hinds / Luneau / Warren / Helleson / Vaaks / Drysdale…

Finally the backend looking good.. again..

- dozerD10

I’ve said it before…
Bedard
Matthews UFA
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21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jan 5 @ 7:59 PM ET
Forsberg played LESS than him… apparently you guys can’t grasp that and desperately need excuses.
- Dozzer

No need to compare the kid to Forsberg.
Peter was one of the best players ever!
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jan 5 @ 8:01 PM ET
Forsberg played LESS than him… apparently you guys can’t grasp that and desperately need excuses.
- Dozzer

Wasn't Forsberg 19 when he accomplished the 31 points?

Edit: looks like this has been discussed already. But yes, it's a massive difference for an elite player.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jan 5 @ 8:04 PM ET
how is that a penalty on Rielly ???
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jan 5 @ 8:05 PM ET
how is that a penalty on Rielly ???
- dmnted

All I can say is, watch the junior game.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jan 5 @ 8:06 PM ET
So? If they made the tourney they were an acceptable tourney team. Stop with the lame ass excuses please.

(frank) sakes boys use logic for once and not “gut feelings”

- Dozzer



not a lame excuse

just pointing it out the he got a 3rd of his points in one game vs a country that not known for hockey
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 5 @ 8:06 PM ET
Drop Jagr and Ovi and even suggesting Bedard right now is a joke
- Canada Cup


Jagr and Ovi I'd say yeah. If you can that close to the pinnacle of all time stats, how are you not generational?

The Bedard thing is dumb. He hasn't played a game.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jan 5 @ 8:06 PM ET
All I can say is, watch the junior game.
- Woderwick

I'm flipping between both games
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jan 5 @ 8:06 PM ET
Murray has to have that…has to…
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 5 @ 8:07 PM ET
Oh yes the massive difference between a 19 year old and 17 year old

Forsberg played fewer games and had a lot more points. End of story.

- Dozzer


There actually is a significant difference between 17 and 19, especially 2 years of athletic training.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 5 @ 8:08 PM ET
Wasn't Forsberg 19 when he accomplished the 31 points?

Edit: looks like this has been discussed already. But yes, it's a massive difference for an elite player.

- mjones242


I refuse to buy your excuse.

17 and 19 are the same ass age. Only Canadian hockey fans can come up with dumb ass poop like this.

If Forsberg was a Canadian and Bedard was Swedish you biased fans would be making excuses for Forsberg… guaranteed.

rah rah rah… this is what we like today so theyre practically the best ever!!!!!!!
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jan 5 @ 8:09 PM ET
Forsberg played LESS than him… apparently you guys can’t grasp that and desperately need excuses.
- Dozzer

Apparently you can’t grasp how few make it to this tournament as a 17 year old.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jan 5 @ 8:09 PM ET
I'm flipping between both games
- dmnted

I switched too, right at that moment.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 5 @ 8:09 PM ET
not a lame excuse

just pointing it out the he got a 3rd of his points in one game vs a country that not known for hockey

- dmnted


They wouldn’t have made the tourney if they weren’t good enough.

Oh and Bedard doesn’t have to play Russia this year… there’s his advantage.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who's the real Randy?, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 5 @ 8:10 PM ET
Forsberg had to play the Russians at least. And I highly doubt he had back to back tournaments on home soil.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jan 5 @ 8:10 PM ET
There actually is a significant difference between 17 and 19, especially 2 years of athletic training.
- Zezel

Dozzer was full grown at 11.
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