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mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jan 6 @ 10:15 AM ET
Kampf is needed to win faceoffs in OT.. Plus, Leafs need Centres more than defensemen
- PatC80

If Keefe is willing to play 5 forwards on PP and “The Mitchician” as a RHD, no reason he wouldn’t try 44 as a LW

#reinventingthewheel2023
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 6 @ 10:16 AM ET
Uncomfortable truth - since Morgan Rielly has returned, the Leafs defensive game has fallen apart.
- fifty__missions

Ya he was never very good at defense
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jan 6 @ 10:25 AM ET
Windows gotta get licked.
- .HOHO.

Funny he’s barely here this season until today after a loss..I say give him the boot for a month just for something to do.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 6 @ 10:26 AM ET
That’s my (frank)ing argument!!!

Hence why I say Bedard isn’t a guaranteed star in the NHL

- Dozzer


He isn't.

The kid looked awesome out there but the hype is ridiculous. His shot is not better than a number of other NHLers and he is going to have to overcome his size.

I don't see how you label someone "generational" before they have played an NHL game.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jan 6 @ 10:32 AM ET
He isn't.

The kid looked awesome out there but the hype is ridiculous. His shot is not better than a number of other NHLers and he is going to have to overcome his size.

I don't see how you label someone "generational" before they have played an NHL game.

- Aetherial


I don’t think anyone disagrees with that. But the kid is smashing records set by all of the best of the best players. I doubt he plays in the nhl at 5’ 10”. He will likely grow a bit more. Who knows. I’d say it’s still a good bet that he’s a star. Generational? Won’t know for a while yet.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jan 6 @ 10:38 AM ET
Kampf is needed to win faceoffs in OT.. Plus, Leafs need Centres more than defensemen
- PatC80



they TSN panel talk about getting another C and moving Tavares to the wing
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 6 @ 10:55 AM ET
Save percentages last 4 games were something like .810, .929, 804 and 844. The team generally played badly.

Oh, they won one of those games.

- Canada Cup


Team loses a few games, simple blame must be assigned.

Maybe it's because they're too fashion-foward coming to rink.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 6 @ 10:58 AM ET
He isn't.

The kid looked awesome out there but the hype is ridiculous. His shot is not better than a number of other NHLers and he is going to have to overcome his size.

I don't see how you label someone "generational" before they have played an NHL game.

- Aetherial


pretty sure that was done with Mcdavid and Crosby. you could tell they were special and in a tier of their own. Bedard so far does look a couple notches above everyone...at 17. also good to look at things in context of the draft class. Is it a good crop overall? thats what is being said, up there with 2015.

he stands above them all at this point


Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 6 @ 11:12 AM ET
He isn't.

The kid looked awesome out there but the hype is ridiculous. His shot is not better than a number of other NHLers and he is going to have to overcome his size.

I don't see how you label someone "generational" before they have played an NHL game.

- Aetherial

Scouts assess the skills and to a certain extent the drive of these kids. They do it all the time and do it for a living. Some have said he has generational offensive talent. Others have pegged him at a Patrick Kane level - very, very high end skills that turned into an amazing NHL career.

You can assess what he is with some accuracy but obviously you can only speculate as to what he becomes. Guaranteeing the next Gretzky is as silly as denying how good the kid really is.

I think it would be fun if ended up in Anaheim.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Name the Traitors!, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 6 @ 11:15 AM ET
whatever happened to Sean Day?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 6 @ 11:17 AM ET
Scouts assess the skills and to a certain extent the drive of these kids. They do it all the time and do it for a living. Some have said he has generational offensive talent. Others have pegged him at a Patrick Kane level - very, very high end skills that turned into an amazing NHL career.

You can assess what he is with some accuracy but obviously you can only speculate as to what he becomes. Guaranteeing the next Gretzky is as silly as denying how good the kid really is.

I think it would be fun if ended up in Anaheim.

- Canada Cup


since it wont be the leafs, I hope he goes west.

SJ, Arizona, Anahiem pref. but fine with Columbus
just not Chi or Vancouver please

also how hilarious would it be if Edm missed and won the lottery
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Jan 6 @ 11:18 AM ET
He isn't.

The kid looked awesome out there but the hype is ridiculous. His shot is not better than a number of other NHLers and he is going to have to overcome his size.

I don't see how you label someone "generational" before they have played an NHL game.

- Aetherial


I agree with the above. He looked great in the tournament.....but so did guys like Jordan Eberle, Max Domi, Barret Hayton, and Brayden Schenn. Now, these guys are good NHLers, and I'm not trying to necessarily compare Bedard to them.

I don't agree with all of the hype. He may end up a star but people are talking him up like he's the next McDavid, which I don't see.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 6 @ 11:23 AM ET
since it wont be the leafs, I hope he goes west.

SJ, Arizona, Anahiem pref. but fine with Columbus
just not Chi or Vancouver please

also how hilarious would it be if Edm missed and won the lottery

- senstroll


Stop.

That's just not funny.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 6 @ 11:23 AM ET
whatever happened to Sean Day?
- drexel



If he went into those woods you can forget about him.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 6 @ 11:24 AM ET
since it wont be the leafs, I hope he goes west.

SJ, Arizona, Anahiem pref. but fine with Columbus
just not Chi or Vancouver please

also how hilarious would it be if Edm missed and won the lottery

- senstroll


That would be hilaraballs. Welcome to Cap Hell, Spoilers!
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Jan 6 @ 11:24 AM ET
I always said Jake Gardnier should have been moved up to play wing.

Remember when Big Buff would play D one game and wing the next, that would be such a nice type of player to have provided they are good at both positions.

I think the Leafs did that with Ian White a bit as well before he eventually just became a D man.


Tough go for White, he is playing hockey in the Fed league now which is fairly impressive considering he didn't play pro hockey from 2015-2021!

This is a long but interesting story about what happened to White - I'm glad to see he is back playing pro hockey, he's only 38! I always liked him when he was a Leaf.



senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 6 @ 11:25 AM ET
I agree with the above. He looked great in the tournament.....but so did guys like Jordan Eberle, Max Domi, Barret Hayton, and Brayden Schenn. Now, these guys are good NHLers, and I'm not trying to necessarily compare Bedard to them.

I don't agree with all of the hype. He may end up a star but people are talking him up like he's the next McDavid, which I don't see.

- Kinger34


the big difference with all those players you mention is they were not 17
hayton was drafted in 2018 and had 12 points at the 2020 tourn.
Schenn was 19 when he had 18 points




Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 6 @ 11:28 AM ET
Shane Wright will be sent down to the OHL.

senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 6 @ 11:29 AM ET
the comparables you can use to temper the Bedard hype is Puljujärvi, at 17 he had 17 points (2.4/gm)
Laine 13 (2.1/gm)

Mcdavid had 11, crosby 9

Bedard 23 (3.2/gm)
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 6 @ 11:30 AM ET
the comparables you can use to temper the Bedard hype is Puljujärvi, at 17 he had 17 points (2.4/gm)
Laine 13 (2.1/gm)

Mcdavid had 11, crosby 9

Bedard 23 (3.2/gm)

- senstroll


So he's closer to Puljujarvi than Crosby.

RED FLAG RIGHT THERE.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 6 @ 11:30 AM ET
I agree with the above. He looked great in the tournament.....but so did guys like Jordan Eberle, Max Domi, Barret Hayton, and Brayden Schenn. Now, these guys are good NHLers, and I'm not trying to necessarily compare Bedard to them.

I don't agree with all of the hype. He may end up a star but people are talking him up like he's the next McDavid, which I don't see.

- Kinger34

Scouts don’t make projections on the basis of the tournament
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 6 @ 11:31 AM ET
Shane Wright will be sent down to the OHL.
- Scabeh

Kraken suck and don’t know what they’re doing
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 6 @ 11:32 AM ET
So he's closer to Puljujarvi than Crosby.

RED FLAG RIGHT THERE.

- Scabeh


exactly, if you win the lottery, trade that #1 pick for Puljujarvi
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 6 @ 11:36 AM ET
Kraken suck and don’t know what they’re doing
- Canada Cup


They mopped the floor with some random team yesterday though. Must be doing something Wright.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 6 @ 11:37 AM ET
They mopped the floor with some random team yesterday though. Must be doing something Wright.
- Scabeh

Nah, it was just Rielly
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