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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 5 @ 1:24 PM ET
How about Kulich, kid is gonna be fun to watch.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jan 5 @ 1:26 PM ET
How about Kulich, kid is gonna be fun to watch.
- Buff36


I can see why they were soo anxious to get him.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 5 @ 1:28 PM ET
Just asked a co-worker:

If I had cardiac arrest right now do you think I could get the same treatment as Hamlin?

They all said, in unison

“Hell no you serious”

Anyway, hope is isn’t brain damaged because then miracles are really messed up

- Nightmare Fuel


And if Hamlin was sitting next to you he'd say the same thing. Again, what is your point?
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 5 @ 1:28 PM ET
he got that treatment because he was at an event that has a higher potential for the need of medical personnel.. someone in the stands that had the same issue would have had the same speed of healthcare because thats where the medical staff was.
- SabresFaninIndiana


In my mind, I'm not talking about at the stadium itself. They have medical personnel on standby ready to administer to the players themselves. It's at the hospital where I am thinking it's possible.

This is just hypothetical, but let's just say for the sake of argument there was another patient that had a cardiac event that was just as severe at the same hospital at the same time, but he wasn't in the public eye. It's not unfathomable that at some point in time, the hospital would give the "better" resources to Hamlin first, not necessarily for very long, or to the point that the other patient dies. But it's just human nature to tend to the patient that everyone has their eye on first. It's not out of negligence or maliciousness. It's just how it goes, fair or not.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 5 @ 1:31 PM ET
It would be silly to think the average Joe/Jill isn't getting life saving care every day.

Or they are just left on the street to die? People call 911 and they get care.

350,000 people have cardiac arrests each year. around 50% get life saving care.

Anyone who thinks they are left on the street to die is just trying to create hate.


20% who get care survive, those are the average Joes/Jills.

Why are people trying to spin this into something its not?

- sabresfan69


It's not about the care they receive, it's about the support. Like there's a question why the entire United States doesn't know about Average Joe experiencing this trauma.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 5 @ 1:32 PM ET
How about Kulich, kid is gonna be fun to watch.
- Buff36


What do you think?

Sabres slow roll kulich next year in Rochester or is he making the team out of camp?

Under normal seasons, seams like he would get a look see after the deadline, when we move a bunch of guys.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 5 @ 1:33 PM ET
Let’s not act like random Joe would get the same attention, care and hard work spent saving his life.
- Nightmare Fuel


I stand corrected, and this is stupid.
Nightmare Fuel
Atlanta Thrashers
Joined: 07.26.2022

Jan 5 @ 1:33 PM ET
And if Hamlin was sitting next to you he'd say the same thing. Again, what is your point?
- Slump Buster

Then even Hamlin would agree he is privileged

I rest my case
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 5 @ 1:33 PM ET
It's not about the care they receive, it's about the support. Like there's a question why the entire United States doesn't know about Average Joe experiencing this trauma.
- TheSabresTaco


Hamlin is average Joe. There is no difference. A guy that was unknown to all but a group of people had a terrible incident happen in front of tens of millions of people. The support would be the same.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:34 PM ET
Just asked a co-worker:

If I had cardiac arrest right now do you think I could get the same treatment as Hamlin?

They all said, in unison

“Hell no you serious”

Anyway, hope is isn’t brain damaged because then miracles are really messed up

- Nightmare Fuel

did your mom walk in the basement while you were taking your online surveys?
Nightmare Fuel
Atlanta Thrashers
Joined: 07.26.2022

Jan 5 @ 1:34 PM ET
It's not about the care they receive, it's about the support. Like there's a question why the entire United States doesn't know about Average Joe experiencing this trauma.
- TheSabresTaco

Thank you, Taco.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 5 @ 1:34 PM ET
It’s because people worked really hard. It’s not a miracle.

The biggest news here is if he pulls through, so many people worked to save his life.

No one’s outraged.

- Nightmare Fuel


Bringing someone back to life is subjectively a miracle.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 5 @ 1:34 PM ET
Then even Hamlin would agree he is privileged

I rest my case

- Nightmare Fuel


No, Hamlin would agree that if the incident happened to him while sitting next to your miserable self in your miserable office, he would be a gonner. He would also agree that if you had the same issue happen to you while at a monday night football game then you would survive.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 5 @ 1:35 PM ET
What do you think?

Sabres slow roll kulich next year in Rochester or is he making the team out of camp?

Under normal seasons, seams like he would get a look see after the deadline, when we move a bunch of guys.

- Boss34

Really don't know what they will do Boss. I think he's close, he has already played 2yrs of men's hockey overseas.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 5 @ 1:36 PM ET
Bringing someone back to life is subjectively a miracle.
- TheSabresTaco


Ever wonder why these "miracles" don't happen a day or two after the person dies?

(spoiler alert: if they "come back", they weren't dead)
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:36 PM ET
What do you think?

Sabres slow roll kulich next year in Rochester or is he making the team out of camp?

Under normal seasons, seams like he would get a look see after the deadline, when we move a bunch of guys.

- Boss34

who do you think we move at the deadline? Girgs
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 5 @ 1:36 PM ET
Thank you, Taco.
- Nightmare Fuel


I agree with the support thing, but the medical care Damar received in Cincinnati is the same care that Joe Blow would receive at the same hospital.
Nightmare Fuel
Atlanta Thrashers
Joined: 07.26.2022

Jan 5 @ 1:38 PM ET
In my mind, I'm not talking about at the stadium itself. They have medical personnel on standby ready to administer to the players themselves. It's at the hospital where I am thinking it's possible.

This is just hypothetical, but let's just say for the sake of argument there was another patient that had a cardiac event that was just as severe at the same hospital at the same time, but he wasn't in the public eye. It's not unfathomable that at some point in time, the hospital would give the "better" resources to Hamlin first, not necessarily for very long, or to the point that the other patient dies. But it's just human nature to tend to the patient that everyone has their eye on first. It's not out of negligence or maliciousness. It's just how it goes, fair or not.

- buffalofan19

Human Nature
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 5 @ 1:38 PM ET
Joker is skating again. Hopefully we aren't too far away from having one more awful defenseman watching the game from the press box.
- Slump Buster


I wonder if they punt Fitz next. They like his edge but he sits all the time.
Nightmare Fuel
Atlanta Thrashers
Joined: 07.26.2022

Jan 5 @ 1:40 PM ET
Bringing someone back to life is subjectively a miracle.
- TheSabresTaco

Not if they use science or medicine.

Miracle literally means beyond normal science and comprehension- like divine.

It’s not a miracle. It’s not religious.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 5 @ 1:40 PM ET
Really don't know what they will do Boss. I think he's close, he has already played 2yrs of men's hockey overseas.
- Buff36


Some guys like quinn and peterka kick the door open in training camp. We may not have an answer until then.

I do believe that kulich's talent has made olofsson very tradeable and lessons any future plans in buffalo.
Nightmare Fuel
Atlanta Thrashers
Joined: 07.26.2022

Jan 5 @ 1:40 PM ET
No, Hamlin would agree that if the incident happened to him while sitting next to your miserable self in your miserable office, he would be a gonner. He would also agree that if you had the same issue happen to you while at a monday night football game then you would survive.
- Slump Buster

So I am right, thanks.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:41 PM ET
I wonder if they punt Fitz next. They like his edge but he sits all the time.
- TheSabresTaco

its gotta be him or bryson, right.. i would think Fritzy gets the boot
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 5 @ 1:41 PM ET
I wonder if they punt Fitz next. They like his edge but he sits all the time.
- TheSabresTaco


I think the real question is 46's spot on the team. I still think that he is the worst of all of them.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 5 @ 1:41 PM ET
I wonder if they punt Fitz next. They like his edge but he sits all the time.
- TheSabresTaco

I would think he's the odd man out.
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