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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 20 @ 1:15 PM ET
I go back and forth between Bedard and Fantilli. Mainly because Fantilli is 6'2" and will prob play in the NHL at 205-210lbs and has comparable skill to Bedard. Bedard is listed at 5'10" and 185lbs, but he doesn't look nearly 185.

I watched him like a hawk during the World Juniors. Yes, he was the youngest kid out there, yes, he put up 8 points in 7 games...but opposing teams were able to be physical on him and limit his effectiveness. Now I know he was playing against older kids and still showed he can produce, his skill is undeniable, but Fantilli is no slouch and already has NHL size while putting up big point totals playing against man sized players in college. 3rd (26 points in 16 games) in NCAA scoring as a freshman (our boy Cutter is 18th!)

Bedard has 64 points in 28 games so there is that lol

Both players are studs and I will be overjoyed to have a chance to draft either.

- MBFlyerfan


Fantilli is great, but Bedard is on a level of his own. The size difference is gonna be a non-issue too... his processing speed, deception, precision and execution are ridiculous. And he's got the best shot in the draft to boot.
FlyerFan3260
Location: MAGA
Joined: 09.28.2020

Dec 20 @ 1:21 PM ET
It will be something else when they miss out on any of the top guys, but thankfully they showed more effort this season. Were harder to play against.

Country club will be joined together in song, how they did it their way. Sinatra would be proud.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 20 @ 1:34 PM ET
Fantilli is great, but Bedard is on a level of his own. The size difference is gonna be a non-issue too... his processing speed, deception, precision and execution are ridiculous. And he's got the best shot in the draft to boot.
- Tomahawk



I have long ago resigned myself to the fact we wont get Bedard lol

I think I have subconsciously started to look at Fantilli or Michkov as more likely possibilities just to make myself feel better about this hellscape of a franchise we all root for.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 20 @ 1:34 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 12/20/22 vs CVJ
- bmeltzer

Lines are reasonable if you switch Hayes and Cates positions.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 20 @ 1:37 PM ET
I have long ago resigned myself to the fact we wont get Bedard lol

I think I have subconsciously started to look at Fantilli or Michkov as more likely possibilities just to make myself feel better about this hellscape of a franchise we all root for.

- MBFlyerfan


You never know if/when the NHL will place their thumb on the scale to save a flagging franchise. Maybe it's the Flyers turn to get some Gary love.

😉
RajaAmpat
Joined: 12.16.2018

Dec 20 @ 1:58 PM ET
You never know if/when the NHL will place their thumb on the scale to save a flagging franchise. Maybe it's the Flyers turn to get some Gary love.

😉

- Tomahawk


Only if the attendance drops and expected HRR plummet like the Hindenberg.. waits for obvious reference acknowledgement
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 20 @ 2:06 PM ET
Goal Caufield just a point 👉 behind that scratch LaZy HaZe
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 20 @ 2:25 PM ET
Ellis, sedlak, now Atkinson. There’s players walking away from this team yet the fans are still there. Is this a lagging indicator?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 20 @ 2:29 PM ET
I go back and forth between Bedard and Fantilli. Mainly because Fantilli is 6'2" and will prob play in the NHL at 205-210lbs and has comparable skill to Bedard. Bedard is listed at 5'10" and 185lbs, but he doesn't look nearly 185.

I watched him like a hawk during the World Juniors. Yes, he was the youngest kid out there, yes, he put up 8 points in 7 games...but opposing teams were able to be physical on him and limit his effectiveness. Now I know he was playing against older kids and still showed he can produce, his skill is undeniable, but Fantilli is no slouch and already has NHL size while putting up big point totals playing against man sized players in college. 3rd (26 points in 16 games) in NCAA scoring as a freshman (our boy Cutter is 18th!)

Bedard has 64 points in 28 games so there is that lol

Both players are studs and I will be overjoyed to have a chance to draft either.

- MBFlyerfan



I’m surprised people actually care in here about players. They could have mcdavid and gaudreau and would be no more than a bubble team.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 20 @ 2:35 PM ET
Ellis, sedlak, now Atkinson. There’s players walking away from this team yet the fans are still there. Is this a lagging indicator?
- Just5



One player wanted to leave and go home.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 20 @ 3:00 PM ET
Ellis, sedlak, now Atkinson. There’s players walking away from this team yet the fans are still there. Is this a lagging indicator?
- Just5

Sedlak’s situation isn’t even remotely like the other two…
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 20 @ 3:09 PM ET
Ellis, sedlak, now Atkinson. There’s players walking away from this team yet the fans are still there. Is this a lagging indicator?
- Just5


One of these things is not like the other...

late, sorry

One player wanted to leave and go home.
- MJL


Sedlak’s situation isn’t even remotely like the other two…
- SuperSchennBros
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 20 @ 3:18 PM ET
Sedlak’s situation isn’t even remotely like the other two…
- SuperSchennBros





Quiet, he's on a roll.....
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 20 @ 3:51 PM ET
Sedlak leaving the league rather than play another few months in Philly is not a good look for Fletcher' Flyers.
- Feanor


looking at his reasons....no i don't blame him one bit. Coming back to play for a contender....going to a bottom feeder. Respect he put his happiness and family first. and guessing he will get similar pay elsewhere.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 20 @ 3:54 PM ET
I have long ago resigned myself to the fact we wont get Bedard lol

I think I have subconsciously started to look at Fantilli or Michkov as more likely possibilities just to make myself feel better about this hellscape of a franchise we all root for.

- MBFlyerfan


interesting. but wonder if fantilli will pass bedard like hischier and patrick.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Dec 20 @ 4:24 PM ET
Fantilli, Carlsson, Smith, Michkov, Yager. and Benson would all be nice consulation prizes. This draft class has a strong top 10.
- Trox88

Mhm. I would not be upset with Fantilli or Michkov. Carlsson could be a winner, too.

I’d rather have Michkov over Carlsson, but I’m not sure how politics are gonna play in this mess.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 20 @ 4:36 PM ET
must lose in regulation game tonight
- 2Real

9 points ahead of the intentional tankers Blackhawks. At the rock bottom. 🪨
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Dec 20 @ 5:26 PM ET
interesting. but wonder if fantilli will pass bedard like hischier and patrick.
- Peter Richards


He won’t

Bedard is essentially the next Patrick Kane. Fantilli projects to be an NHL all star caliber type player but Bedard is generational.

His size does keep him from being Sid/McDavid level but he’s the number 1 pick.

Some GMs will pause thinking about Fantilli’s measurables but in the end he’s second fiddle every day and twice on Sundays
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Dec 20 @ 5:33 PM ET
He won’t

Bedard is essentially the next Patrick Kane. Fantilli projects to be an NHL all star caliber type player but Bedard is generational.

His size does keep him from being Sid/McDavid level but he’s the number 1 pick.

Some GMs will pause thinking about Fantilli’s measurables but in the end he’s second fiddle every day and twice on Sundays

- Wingdestroyer


That kid from the USNTDP, Will Smith has been climbing up the mock charts and putting up points at a high rate. He’s an intriguing prospect.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 20 @ 5:36 PM ET
He won’t

Bedard is essentially the next Patrick Kane. Fantilli projects to be an NHL all star caliber type player but Bedard is generational.

His size does keep him from being Sid/McDavid level but he’s the number 1 pick.

Some GMs will pause thinking about Fantilli’s measurables but in the end he’s second fiddle every day and twice on Sundays

- Wingdestroyer

Someone on here said there are 3 Patrick Kanes in this draft 😂
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 20 @ 5:45 PM ET
That kid from the USNTDP, Will Smith has been climbing up the mock charts and putting up points at a high rate. He’s an intriguing prospect.
- Sublime55

PR department will be all over that name. And Chuck’s probably already at half chub given the kids American.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Dec 20 @ 5:55 PM ET
PR department will be all over that name. And Chuck’s probably already at half chub given the kids American.
- hereticpride


No doubt…I kinda wish he had more than such a generic name and after the other Will Smith’s meltdown at the Oscars, that potential connection to the city seems a little less cool.
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 20 @ 6:32 PM ET
PR department will be all over that name. And Chuck’s probably already at half chub given the kids American.
- hereticpride


Good thing he’s not from Minnesota.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 20 @ 6:36 PM ET
I have long ago resigned myself to the fact we wont get Bedard lol

I think I have subconsciously started to look at Fantilli or Michkov as more likely possibilities just to make myself feel better about this hellscape of a franchise we all root for.

- MBFlyerfan

Obviously I want that next generation talent like anyone else but I’m also not expecting to strike gold. Draft picks are lottery tickets in my mind. What I want is a really good center we can build around if we can’t get that next great player. I think I might be really happy with Adam Fantilli.

This is gonna sound very contradictory on my part but I did once say to myself that I was happy to have James van Riemsdyk when we were robbed of Patrick Kane. I don’t wanna feel that way again but we really need something to build around at center.

Really think about that. Patrick Kane should have been a Flyer. Not only did it not happen, he kept us from winning a cup.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Dec 20 @ 7:07 PM ET
The car shield commercials with Sanheim and Laughton are so brutal they're funny.
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