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rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 9 @ 9:49 AM ET
Sammy Blais will be 27 at the end of the year. In 185 combined NHL regular season and playoff games, he has 20 goals. A cool .11 goals per game pace.
- tomburton99
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He was brought in here to bolster the 4th line, kill penalties, forecheck, solid D play, and hit....not score goals. Since he has(had) good speed and was aggressive, he was also valuable for his ability to get plugged into any line, if needed, for a short period of time. The ACL surgery has slowed him down more than most b/c of his style of play. He will get it back....or not, tough break. Hopefully, by early Spring, he's gotten his legs back under him, and can play the style that he was so successful with in St. Louis.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Dec 9 @ 9:53 AM ET
Sammy Blais will be 27 at the end of the year. In 185 combined NHL regular season and playoff games, he has 20 goals. A cool .11 goals per game pace.
- tomburton99

Again Thomas, he’s not a goal scorer. He’s a banger. He’ll soften up the D and forwards. We didn’t get to see him in the playoffs where he’ll be more effective. You just don’t like role players. Just admit it ffs. It doesn’t matter who it is. I get that he was traded for Buch so EVERYONE hates him, but that is quite unfair and typical of this outrageous fan base we have

Quite honestly, if we “need” Blais to score goals were (frank)ed

Name me one bottom 6 player you liked in the last 15 years
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 9 @ 10:01 AM ET
I was told by the all knowing (not you.) that his back issue would cripple his career. Funny how that works.

That 2017 pick Andersson cost them at least 3 quality players. (It's more All 6 players taken after Andersson all superior players. 3: Vilardi, Suzuki and Necas are all quite good.)

- tomburton99



He has had some back issues still but may finally be past them. I'm not too upset since I think it was all part of the sequences that landed them the lottery picks.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 9 @ 10:11 AM ET
Again Thomas, he’s not a goal scorer. He’s a banger. He’ll soften up the D and forwards. We didn’t get to see him in the playoffs where he’ll be more effective. You just don’t like role players. Just admit it ffs. It doesn’t matter who it is. I get that he was traded for Buch so EVERYONE hates him, but that is quite unfair and typical of this outrageous fan base we have

Quite honestly, if we “need” Blais to score goals were (frank)ed

Name me one bottom 6 player you liked in the last 15 years

- Slimtj100


It was the Rangers mismanagement of the Cap and the signing of players that made Buch a Cap casualty.

Its not Sammys fault but he will always be linked to the trade. Of course nobody knows what will happen in the future but his play makes for a lopsided trade for the Blues.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Dec 9 @ 10:35 AM ET
It was the Rangers mismanagement of the Cap and the signing of players that made Buch a Cap casualty.

It’s not Sammys fault but he will always be linked to the trade. Of course nobody knows what will happen in the future but his play makes for a lopsided trade for the Blues.

- Brukie

Buch is a nice player when he’s made out to be a superstar.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 9 @ 10:41 AM ET
It was the Rangers mismanagement of the Cap and the signing of players that made Buch a Cap casualty.

Its not Sammys fault but he will always be linked to the trade. Of course nobody knows what will happen in the future but his play makes for a lopsided trade for the Blues.

- Brukie

Forget about Buch. Take him out of the equation. Jared Tinordi has more goals than Sammy Blais as a Ranger.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 9 @ 10:44 AM ET
Again Thomas, he’s not a goal scorer. He’s a banger. He’ll soften up the D and forwards. We didn’t get to see him in the playoffs where he’ll be more effective. You just don’t like role players. Just admit it ffs. It doesn’t matter who it is. I get that he was traded for Buch so EVERYONE hates him, but that is quite unfair and typical of this outrageous fan base we have

Quite honestly, if we “need” Blais to score goals were (frank)ed

Name me one bottom 6 player you liked in the last 15 years

- Slimtj100

Dominic Moore. Blair Betts. Colton Orr. Jesper Fast.

Sammy Blais stinks. That's the problem. He stunk in St.Louis too. Hence why he was moved
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 9 @ 10:49 AM ET
Buch is a nice player when he’s made out to be a superstar.
- Slimtj100


I dont know what you mean when you say Buch is made out to be a superstar but overall the trade is incredibly lopsided when you compare numbers. If you were going to trade for Sammy before the trade, you could have had him for a third rounder.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Dec 9 @ 11:09 AM ET
Dominic Moore. Blair Betts. Colton Orr. Jesper Fast.

Sammy Blais stinks. That's the problem. He stunk in St.Louis too. Hence why he was moved

- tomburton99

He doesn’t stink in his role. He stinks because he doesn’t score but who cares. That’s the point. If Blais scores it’s a bonus. He’ll probably be gone next year anyway. The trade sucked but it had to happen, try letting it go 🤷🏻‍♂️
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Dec 9 @ 11:10 AM ET
I dont know what you mean when you say Buch is made out to be a superstar but overall the trade is incredibly lopsided when you compare numbers. If you were going to trade for Sammy before the trade, you could have had him for a third rounder.
- Brukie

Well it was the end of civilization when he was traded. Thankfully as a society we’ve recovered

Ironically we made the conference finals without either guy
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Dec 9 @ 11:18 AM ET
He doesn’t stink in his role. He stinks because he doesn’t score but who cares. That’s the point. If Blais scores it’s a bonus. He’ll probably be gone next year anyway. The trade sucked but it had to happen, try letting it go 🤷🏻‍♂️
- Slimtj100


TJ, I might have been more open minded then anyone about the Buch trade and further to that, more willing to give Blais time to acclimate himself to the team. His injury was unfortunate. But, so far this year he does stink in his role. And I get that an ACL injury of this degree takes time to recover from. Not many of us are holding him to a standard of being a scorer. But, even the role players have to possess the THREAT of possibly scoring a goal when they are on the ice. If they can't do that, there are others who can.
I'm still trying to be patient with his recovery, but with so many others not playing to their potential right now it exposes the fact that Blais is not playing to the level we need. We are running out of time to remain patient.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Dec 9 @ 11:18 AM ET
Dominic Moore. Blair Betts. Colton Orr. Jesper Fast.

Sammy Blais stinks. That's the problem. He stunk in St.Louis too. Hence why he was moved

- tomburton99


Buch was a salary dump full stop... and Blais was affordable and added so called toughness to pacify Dolan. Yes the Blues made out but someone was going to.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Dec 9 @ 11:20 AM ET
Buch was a salary dump full stop... and Blais was affordable and added so called toughness to pacify Dolan. Yes the Blues made out but someone was going to.
- Greschnergy#4


One of my best friends is an avid Blues fan (even drove down alone for the Cup parade!). His report to me at the time of the trade was that Blais was very good in a bottom 6 role, with good vision and hands. We simply haven't seen that since his return.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 9 @ 11:20 AM ET
Well it was the end of civilization when he was traded. Thankfully as a society we’ve recovered

Ironically we made the conference finals without either guy

- Slimtj100

Not the end of the Civilization. It would have been a mad house here if I were not in the sin bin. But this the 2nd year in row where Amazing Chris Drury is looking for RW depth after trading Buchnevich. Last year they had to add Copp and Vatrano before the team looked any kind of good. So yeah, the trade is still bad if it's causing YEAR 2 of problems.
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Dec 9 @ 11:22 AM ET
I dont know what you mean when you say Buch is made out to be a superstar but overall the trade is incredibly lopsided when you compare numbers. If you were going to trade for Sammy before the trade, you could have had him for a third rounder.
- Brukie


At the time the Rangers thought Blais was a better risk than a 3rd rounder and so far he hasn't been but i see Drury's point of view - it could have been a home run.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 9 @ 11:22 AM ET
Buch was a salary dump full stop... and Blais was affordable and added so called toughness to pacify Dolan. Yes the Blues made out but someone was going to.
- Greschnergy#4

Let's play, the math doesn't add up.

Buchnevich was traded because he was looking for a large deal. Got a 5.8 million dollar deal. The Rangers added almost 8 million, they spent that 8million on Reaves, Goodrow, Nemeth and Blais. Chris Drury, masterclass.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 9 @ 11:23 AM ET
TJ, I might have been more open minded then anyone about the Buch trade and further to that, more willing to give Blais time to acclimate himself to the team. His injury was unfortunate. But, so far this year he does stink in his role. And I get that an ACL injury of this degree takes time to recover from. Not many of us are holding him to a standard of being a scorer. But, even the role players have to possess the THREAT of possibly scoring a goal when they are on the ice. If they can't do that, there are others who can.
I'm still trying to be patient with his recovery, but with so many others not playing to their potential right now it exposes the fact that Blais is not playing to the level we need. We are running out of time to remain patient.

- Tonybere

Thank you.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 9 @ 11:24 AM ET
At the time the Rangers thought Blais was a better risk than a 3rd rounder and so far he hasn't been but i see Drury's point of view - it could have been a home run.
- Greschnergy#4

Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Dec 9 @ 11:24 AM ET
TJ, I might have been more open minded then anyone about the Buch trade and further to that, more willing to give Blais time to acclimate himself to the team. His injury was unfortunate. But, so far this year he does stink in his role. And I get that an ACL injury of this degree takes time to recover from. Not many of us are holding him to a standard of being a scorer. But, even the role players have to possess the THREAT of possibly scoring a goal when they are on the ice. If they can't do that, there are others who can.
I'm still trying to be patient with his recovery, but with so many others not playing to their potential right now it exposes the fact that Blais is not playing to the level we need. We are running out of time to remain patient.

- Tonybere

I disagree. I don’t what you expect from a guy who plays on the 4th line. He hits people. Hits them hard. They wince. Boom he’s effective. He does have 5 assists and +3 on said 4th line, is that really that bad? Chipping in as they say

Him and Gauthier are both very effective recently. I said them two because they’ve been the most consistent 4th line guys
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Dec 9 @ 11:24 AM ET
Let's play, the math doesn't add up.

Buchnevich was traded because he was looking for a large deal. Got a 5.8 million dollar deal. The Rangers added almost 8 million, they spent that 8million on Reaves, Goodrow, Nemeth and Blais. Chris Drury, masterclass.

- tomburton99


he might have been asking more than $5.8M from the Rangers (i would bet the farm he was)
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Dec 9 @ 11:25 AM ET
Thank you.
- tomburton99

Define stink regarding him? And please don’t use corsi becuase idgaf. Or goals because idgaf if he scores either
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 9 @ 11:26 AM ET
Define stink regarding him? And please don’t use corsi becuase idgaf. Or goals because idgaf if he scores either
- Slimtj100

He has 0 goals and 9 points in 39 games as a Ranger. I'd say that explains itself.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 9 @ 11:28 AM ET
he might have been asking more than $5.8M from the Rangers (i would bet the farm he was)
- Greschnergy#4

You have no way of knowing that. But sure. Even still. They subtracted 5.8, added 8. 2 of those players are gone. 1 has zero goals.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Dec 9 @ 11:29 AM ET
He has 0 goals and 9 points in 39 games as a Ranger. I'd say that explains itself.
- tomburton99

Ok but point production isn’t his role Goodrow isn’t either
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Dec 9 @ 11:29 AM ET
You have no way of knowing that. But sure. Even still. They subtracted 5.8, added 8. 2 of those players are gone. 1 has zero goals.
- tomburton99


Yes it didnt work out but not unreasonable- cant get every decision correct.
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