TommyGTrain
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Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll Joined: 05.19.2017
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How could in not? Shesterkin regression, Kreider regressing to his norm, young guys not scoring, same 5 on 5 problems, Gallant with his head in the sand. All bad. - tomburton99
They actually looked good 5v5 the first 10-12 games and had a terrible shooting%. That when GG broke up the lines and it all went bad |
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The org basically did rely on them after last year to take the next step. They could not afford to keep vatrano or copp. They were hoping laf and kakko would a take a huge leap this year based off the playoff run.
90% at fault I agree is pushing it. Avg goaltending, regressed PP, and low shooting % are contributing factors as well - nyrangers2
But Vatrano and Copp each make more than Laf and Kakko combined. So they didn't lose those two because of Kakko or Laf. They lost them because they are paying other players.
I had high hopes this year for Laf and Kakko too and don't want to make it sound like they aren't disappointing. I just think there are much bigger issues. For all his lack of finishing, Kakko has looked damn good to me. Laf on the other hand hasn't been as noticeable and that edge that he played with last year and into the playoffs has been nonexistent.
One thing that we all pointed out last year in the playoffs was that the kids played much better when they had consistent linemates. None of them have had that this year which I think isn't doing them any favors either.
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Would you want someone like Trotz to come in? - TPC
I'm not sure what the answer is. But I know that AV, Quinn and now Gallant all appear to be the same type of coach. I.E. a coach that refuses to adjust and change. Which is bad. Yet the Rangers continue to hire that same type of person. |
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But Vatrano and Copp each make more than Laf and Kakko combined. So they didn't lose those two because of Kakko or Laf. They lost them because they are paying other players.
I had high hopes this year for Laf and Kakko too and don't want to make it sound like they aren't disappointing. I just think there are much bigger issues. For all his lack of finishing, Kakko has looked damn good to me. Laf on the other hand hasn't been as noticeable and that edge that he played with last year and into the playoffs has been nonexistent.
One thing that we all pointed out last year in the playoffs was that the kids played much better when they had consistent linemates. None of them have had that this year which I think isn't doing them any favors either. - SkjeiStadium
Yea I wasn't saying they lost those two bc of laf and kakko. Their plan was to pay Panarin/Kreids/Zib big money while hoping the young kids hit their stride early on cheap deals. That just did not work out as they planned.
They should play Laf/kakko on line 1 the rest of the year. |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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I'm not sure what the answer is. But I know that AV, Quinn and now Gallant all appear to be the same type of coach. I.E. a coach that refuses to adjust and change. Which is bad. Yet the Rangers continue to hire that same type of person. - tomburton99
Yea that is a good point, they all struggle with in game adjustments |
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picklerick
New York Rangers |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 03.01.2018
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Yea that is a good point, they all struggle - TPC
Fixed |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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Yea that is a good point, they all struggle with in game adjustments - TPC
Trotz is about the furthest thing from "in-game adjustments" that there is |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Fixed - picklerick
Quick question. Avi making fun of Drury? If so, then |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Trotz is about the furthest thing from "in-game adjustments" that there is - eichiefs9
Sounds like he's the next Rangers coach then. |
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picklerick
New York Rangers |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 03.01.2018
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Trotz is about the furthest thing from "in-game adjustments" that there is - eichiefs9
it's just tough to remember this team ever playing with any sort of structure/identity that the prospect of a coach who adds that is enticing, if misguided |
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Yea I wasn't saying they lost those two bc of laf and kakko. Their plan was to pay Panarin/Kreids/Zib big money while hoping the young kids hit their stride early on cheap deals. That just did not work out as they planned.
They should play Laf/kakko on line 1 the rest of the year. - nyrangers2
I agree with everything you said there. One of my gripes with GG is not holding the top guys accountable. He makes his adjustments on the fringes (Carpenter/Gaut/Krav/Hajek/Jones) but the most he does to punish a top guy is move Kreider to the 3rd line which is where a lot of us agree he should be anyway. Why not bench a Mika or Trouba or Panarin for a period or so?
For as good as he's been this year, I would have scratched Fox after that Ottawa loss. He gave that horrible backhand pass from the slot that went the other way and ended up in the back of our net, only to be waived off for offsides. Then he makes the extra move in OT instead of shooting and Chabot intercepts and sends Tkachuk on the breakaway to win it.
If he is preaching to them to keep things simpler and get pucks on net like he's saying he is, then he needs to back that up by benching guys that aren't doing it. And not just the fringe players but the stars too |
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rrentz
New York Rangers |
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Location: HUNTINGTON, NY Joined: 07.13.2009
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Would you want someone like Trotz to come in? - TPC
Would take Trotz as a coach in a heart beat. |
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I read an article on the Athletic the other day that broke down how PPs across the league have shifted to the 1-3-1 setup the rangers use, where the PP QB is a distributor and the two guys on the circles are the main shooters. This is compared to the years of Shea Weber and Chris Pronger and the likes standing at the blue line bombing slapshots.
Those heavy shots from the point are being saved now at something like a 0.950 clip. Goalies are just too good to beat with a clean shot from the point.
I say this because after reading that I notice everytime Trouba shoots now this is the exact type of shot he's taking, whether on the PP or even strength. He blasts slapshots into the goalies chest. It's no wonder he has 0 goals this year. He needs to figure out a way to either wait for more traffic in front, or look for shot-pass/deflections more often. |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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I read an article on the Athletic the other day that broke down how PPs across the league have shifted to the 1-3-1 setup the rangers use, where the PP QB is a distributor and the two guys on the circles are the main shooters. This is compared to the years of Shea Weber and Chris Pronger and the likes standing at the blue line bombing slapshots.
Those heavy shots from the point are being saved now at something like a 0.950 clip. Goalies are just too good to beat with a clean shot from the point.
I say this because after reading that I notice everytime Trouba shoots now this is the exact type of shot he's taking, whether on the PP or even strength. He blasts slapshots into the goalies chest. It's no wonder he has 0 goals this year. He needs to figure out a way to either wait for more traffic in front, or look for shot-pass/deflections more often. - SkjeiStadium
Sister sexying Sammy Blais not enough net front for PP2.
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I read an article on the Athletic the other day that broke down how PPs across the league have shifted to the 1-3-1 setup the rangers use, where the PP QB is a distributor and the two guys on the circles are the main shooters. This is compared to the years of Shea Weber and Chris Pronger and the likes standing at the blue line bombing slapshots.
Those heavy shots from the point are being saved now at something like a 0.950 clip. Goalies are just too good to beat with a clean shot from the point.
I say this because after reading that I notice everytime Trouba shoots now this is the exact type of shot he's taking, whether on the PP or even strength. He blasts slapshots into the goalies chest. It's no wonder he has 0 goals this year. He needs to figure out a way to either wait for more traffic in front, or look for shot-pass/deflections more often. - SkjeiStadium
https://theathletic.com/3...hl-slap-shots-one-timers/
Here's the article for those of you interested/with an Athletic subscription. The save percentage is actually 0.993 so even worse than I initially wrote.
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Sister sexying Sammy Blais not enough net front for PP2. - tomburton99
I think part of the issue with that PP also (besides getting 20 seconds/PP) is that the flanks there in Laf and Kakko have not proven to be dangerous from the half-wall which allows teams to clog the middle more and take away those shooting lanes. Fox usually has that lane open to him as teams focus on Zib and Panarin |
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MeltingPlastic
New York Rangers |
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Location: outside philthadelphia, PA Joined: 04.17.2007
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I read an article on the Athletic the other day that broke down how PPs across the league have shifted to the 1-3-1 setup the rangers use, where the PP QB is a distributor and the two guys on the circles are the main shooters. This is compared to the years of Shea Weber and Chris Pronger and the likes standing at the blue line bombing slapshots.
Those heavy shots from the point are being saved now at something like a 0.950 clip. Goalies are just too good to beat with a clean shot from the point.
I say this because after reading that I notice everytime Trouba shoots now this is the exact type of shot he's taking, whether on the PP or even strength. He blasts slapshots into the goalies chest. It's no wonder he has 0 goals this year. He needs to figure out a way to either wait for more traffic in front, or look for shot-pass/deflections more often. - SkjeiStadium
it's all about the pass across rainbow road
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JRR1285
New York Rangers |
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Location: Coach's decision, PEI Joined: 02.21.2008
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Quick question. Avi making fun of Drury? If so, then - tomburton99
I made it. |
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JRR1285
New York Rangers |
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Location: Coach's decision, PEI Joined: 02.21.2008
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Trotz is about the furthest thing from "in-game adjustments" that there is - eichiefs9
But he has a system. |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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I made it. - JRR1285
In that case, it sucks. Jk.
People do forget how much of turd Drury was as player for the Rangers. Wish he stuck making pizzas. |
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Slimtj100
New York Rangers |
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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In that case, it sucks. Jk.
People do forget how much of turd Drury was as player for the Rangers. Wish he stuck making pizzas. - tomburton99
Has any ranger ever been good in your opinion? Like in the history of the team
It took me 86 minutes to despise you again haha |
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JRR1285
New York Rangers |
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Location: Coach's decision, PEI Joined: 02.21.2008
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Has any ranger ever been good in your opinion? Like in the history of the team
It took me 86 minutes to despise you again haha - Slimtj100
He loved Tanner Glass. |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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But he has a system. - JRR1285
He's an unreal coach, not knocking him at all. But if the lack of making in-game adjustments is a legitimate gripe among Ranger fans...that would persist under Trotz.
Also he's pretty tough on the younger guys, which may not bode so well for some of those high picks that are struggling to some degree. See: Wahlstrom, Oliver |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Has any ranger ever been good in your opinion? Like in the history of the team
It took me 86 minutes to despise you again haha - Slimtj100
On December 23rd, 2008 Drury assisted on three of four Ranger goals as they leaped out to a 4-0 lead against the Capitals before blowing it and losing in overtime 5-4. After the game Drury told the media, "“I’m certainly not going to let it ruin my Christmas and I don’t think anyone here is going to let it ruin their break, either."
A direct quote from Chris Drury. As for you hating me, let be crystal clear. I do not care. |
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