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TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Dec 7 @ 12:23 PM ET
This is really well done
https://twitter.com/ryann...&t=g7QPtOuUoWbaKbDxoePh8A

- airjan23



It is! Devils fans don't deserve such nice things, considering they would have taken that magazine and thrown it on the ice as garbage!
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Dec 7 @ 12:25 PM ET
How could in not? Shesterkin regression, Kreider regressing to his norm, young guys not scoring, same 5 on 5 problems, Gallant with his head in the sand. All bad.
- tomburton99



They actually looked good 5v5 the first 10-12 games and had a terrible shooting%. That when GG broke up the lines and it all went bad
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Dec 7 @ 12:25 PM ET
The org basically did rely on them after last year to take the next step. They could not afford to keep vatrano or copp. They were hoping laf and kakko would a take a huge leap this year based off the playoff run.

90% at fault I agree is pushing it. Avg goaltending, regressed PP, and low shooting % are contributing factors as well

- nyrangers2

But Vatrano and Copp each make more than Laf and Kakko combined. So they didn't lose those two because of Kakko or Laf. They lost them because they are paying other players.

I had high hopes this year for Laf and Kakko too and don't want to make it sound like they aren't disappointing. I just think there are much bigger issues. For all his lack of finishing, Kakko has looked damn good to me. Laf on the other hand hasn't been as noticeable and that edge that he played with last year and into the playoffs has been nonexistent.

One thing that we all pointed out last year in the playoffs was that the kids played much better when they had consistent linemates. None of them have had that this year which I think isn't doing them any favors either.

tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 7 @ 12:33 PM ET
Would you want someone like Trotz to come in?
- TPC

I'm not sure what the answer is. But I know that AV, Quinn and now Gallant all appear to be the same type of coach. I.E. a coach that refuses to adjust and change. Which is bad. Yet the Rangers continue to hire that same type of person.
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Dec 7 @ 12:36 PM ET
But Vatrano and Copp each make more than Laf and Kakko combined. So they didn't lose those two because of Kakko or Laf. They lost them because they are paying other players.

I had high hopes this year for Laf and Kakko too and don't want to make it sound like they aren't disappointing. I just think there are much bigger issues. For all his lack of finishing, Kakko has looked damn good to me. Laf on the other hand hasn't been as noticeable and that edge that he played with last year and into the playoffs has been nonexistent.

One thing that we all pointed out last year in the playoffs was that the kids played much better when they had consistent linemates. None of them have had that this year which I think isn't doing them any favors either.

- SkjeiStadium



Yea I wasn't saying they lost those two bc of laf and kakko. Their plan was to pay Panarin/Kreids/Zib big money while hoping the young kids hit their stride early on cheap deals. That just did not work out as they planned.

They should play Laf/kakko on line 1 the rest of the year.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Dec 7 @ 12:36 PM ET
I'm not sure what the answer is. But I know that AV, Quinn and now Gallant all appear to be the same type of coach. I.E. a coach that refuses to adjust and change. Which is bad. Yet the Rangers continue to hire that same type of person.
- tomburton99

Yea that is a good point, they all struggle with in game adjustments
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Dec 7 @ 12:37 PM ET
Yea that is a good point, they all struggle
- TPC



Fixed
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 7 @ 12:38 PM ET
Yea that is a good point, they all struggle with in game adjustments
- TPC

Trotz is about the furthest thing from "in-game adjustments" that there is
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 7 @ 12:39 PM ET
Fixed
- picklerick

Quick question. Avi making fun of Drury? If so, then
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 7 @ 12:39 PM ET
Trotz is about the furthest thing from "in-game adjustments" that there is
- eichiefs9

Sounds like he's the next Rangers coach then.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Dec 7 @ 12:40 PM ET
Trotz is about the furthest thing from "in-game adjustments" that there is
- eichiefs9


it's just tough to remember this team ever playing with any sort of structure/identity that the prospect of a coach who adds that is enticing, if misguided
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Dec 7 @ 12:41 PM ET
Yea I wasn't saying they lost those two bc of laf and kakko. Their plan was to pay Panarin/Kreids/Zib big money while hoping the young kids hit their stride early on cheap deals. That just did not work out as they planned.

They should play Laf/kakko on line 1 the rest of the year.

- nyrangers2

I agree with everything you said there. One of my gripes with GG is not holding the top guys accountable. He makes his adjustments on the fringes (Carpenter/Gaut/Krav/Hajek/Jones) but the most he does to punish a top guy is move Kreider to the 3rd line which is where a lot of us agree he should be anyway. Why not bench a Mika or Trouba or Panarin for a period or so?

For as good as he's been this year, I would have scratched Fox after that Ottawa loss. He gave that horrible backhand pass from the slot that went the other way and ended up in the back of our net, only to be waived off for offsides. Then he makes the extra move in OT instead of shooting and Chabot intercepts and sends Tkachuk on the breakaway to win it.

If he is preaching to them to keep things simpler and get pucks on net like he's saying he is, then he needs to back that up by benching guys that aren't doing it. And not just the fringe players but the stars too
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 7 @ 12:45 PM ET
Would you want someone like Trotz to come in?
- TPC


Would take Trotz as a coach in a heart beat.
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Dec 7 @ 12:46 PM ET
I read an article on the Athletic the other day that broke down how PPs across the league have shifted to the 1-3-1 setup the rangers use, where the PP QB is a distributor and the two guys on the circles are the main shooters. This is compared to the years of Shea Weber and Chris Pronger and the likes standing at the blue line bombing slapshots.

Those heavy shots from the point are being saved now at something like a 0.950 clip. Goalies are just too good to beat with a clean shot from the point.

I say this because after reading that I notice everytime Trouba shoots now this is the exact type of shot he's taking, whether on the PP or even strength. He blasts slapshots into the goalies chest. It's no wonder he has 0 goals this year. He needs to figure out a way to either wait for more traffic in front, or look for shot-pass/deflections more often.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 7 @ 12:48 PM ET
I read an article on the Athletic the other day that broke down how PPs across the league have shifted to the 1-3-1 setup the rangers use, where the PP QB is a distributor and the two guys on the circles are the main shooters. This is compared to the years of Shea Weber and Chris Pronger and the likes standing at the blue line bombing slapshots.

Those heavy shots from the point are being saved now at something like a 0.950 clip. Goalies are just too good to beat with a clean shot from the point.

I say this because after reading that I notice everytime Trouba shoots now this is the exact type of shot he's taking, whether on the PP or even strength. He blasts slapshots into the goalies chest. It's no wonder he has 0 goals this year. He needs to figure out a way to either wait for more traffic in front, or look for shot-pass/deflections more often.

- SkjeiStadium


Sister sexying Sammy Blais not enough net front for PP2.
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Dec 7 @ 12:49 PM ET
I read an article on the Athletic the other day that broke down how PPs across the league have shifted to the 1-3-1 setup the rangers use, where the PP QB is a distributor and the two guys on the circles are the main shooters. This is compared to the years of Shea Weber and Chris Pronger and the likes standing at the blue line bombing slapshots.

Those heavy shots from the point are being saved now at something like a 0.950 clip. Goalies are just too good to beat with a clean shot from the point.

I say this because after reading that I notice everytime Trouba shoots now this is the exact type of shot he's taking, whether on the PP or even strength. He blasts slapshots into the goalies chest. It's no wonder he has 0 goals this year. He needs to figure out a way to either wait for more traffic in front, or look for shot-pass/deflections more often.

- SkjeiStadium


https://theathletic.com/3...hl-slap-shots-one-timers/

Here's the article for those of you interested/with an Athletic subscription. The save percentage is actually 0.993 so even worse than I initially wrote.
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Dec 7 @ 12:51 PM ET
Sister sexying Sammy Blais not enough net front for PP2.
- tomburton99

I think part of the issue with that PP also (besides getting 20 seconds/PP) is that the flanks there in Laf and Kakko have not proven to be dangerous from the half-wall which allows teams to clog the middle more and take away those shooting lanes. Fox usually has that lane open to him as teams focus on Zib and Panarin
MeltingPlastic
New York Rangers
Location: outside philthadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.17.2007

Dec 7 @ 12:57 PM ET
I read an article on the Athletic the other day that broke down how PPs across the league have shifted to the 1-3-1 setup the rangers use, where the PP QB is a distributor and the two guys on the circles are the main shooters. This is compared to the years of Shea Weber and Chris Pronger and the likes standing at the blue line bombing slapshots.

Those heavy shots from the point are being saved now at something like a 0.950 clip. Goalies are just too good to beat with a clean shot from the point.

I say this because after reading that I notice everytime Trouba shoots now this is the exact type of shot he's taking, whether on the PP or even strength. He blasts slapshots into the goalies chest. It's no wonder he has 0 goals this year. He needs to figure out a way to either wait for more traffic in front, or look for shot-pass/deflections more often.

- SkjeiStadium


it's all about the pass across rainbow road
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 7 @ 1:15 PM ET
Quick question. Avi making fun of Drury? If so, then
- tomburton99



I made it.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 7 @ 1:18 PM ET
Trotz is about the furthest thing from "in-game adjustments" that there is
- eichiefs9



But he has a system.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 7 @ 1:18 PM ET
I made it.
- JRR1285

In that case, it sucks. Jk.

People do forget how much of turd Drury was as player for the Rangers. Wish he stuck making pizzas.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Dec 7 @ 1:25 PM ET
In that case, it sucks. Jk.

People do forget how much of turd Drury was as player for the Rangers. Wish he stuck making pizzas.

- tomburton99

Has any ranger ever been good in your opinion? Like in the history of the team
It took me 86 minutes to despise you again haha
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 7 @ 1:28 PM ET
Has any ranger ever been good in your opinion? Like in the history of the team
It took me 86 minutes to despise you again haha

- Slimtj100



He loved Tanner Glass.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 7 @ 1:30 PM ET
But he has a system.
- JRR1285

He's an unreal coach, not knocking him at all. But if the lack of making in-game adjustments is a legitimate gripe among Ranger fans...that would persist under Trotz.

Also he's pretty tough on the younger guys, which may not bode so well for some of those high picks that are struggling to some degree. See: Wahlstrom, Oliver
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 7 @ 1:31 PM ET
Has any ranger ever been good in your opinion? Like in the history of the team
It took me 86 minutes to despise you again haha

- Slimtj100


On December 23rd, 2008 Drury assisted on three of four Ranger goals as they leaped out to a 4-0 lead against the Capitals before blowing it and losing in overtime 5-4. After the game Drury told the media, "“I’m certainly not going to let it ruin my Christmas and I don’t think anyone here is going to let it ruin their break, either."

A direct quote from Chris Drury. As for you hating me, let be crystal clear. I do not care.
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