He has had injuries, doesn't mean thats what's going to happen in the future. The Leafs have much better medical, dieticians, therapists than ARZ. Something I just would not be worried about. He is 24 and is young, its overblown in my eyes.

You can believe what you want, I disagree.
- Santo_44

He could very well stay healthy going forward. Hope he does.
Or he could be injured almost yearly as he has been so far.
Dunno, either way I dont see the leafs going after him. Unless they get really desparate or yotes really drop the price.
We'll see.

He could very well stay healthy going forward. Hope he does.
Or he could be injured almost yearly as he has been so far.
Dunno, either way I dont see the leafs going after him.
We'll see.
- Fakepartofme

He never played for the Soo so you're right that this is all wistful thinking.

Santo, please stop your insane rant. Stamkos was injury prone and as we all know he never did anything after his final disastrous season in 2020/2021
- AdamFrench

Exactly

Hockey people love to throw around injury prone.

If a guy has had injury troubles and is young there is no reason to believe its not just a small blip.

Also I am under the belief some players just get unlucky for a short stretch in their career.

He never played for the Soo so you're right that this is all wistful thinking.
- AdamFrench

Ah crap, I didnt even factor that in.
Could be a tougher sell to dubie.

He never played for the Soo so you're right that this is all wistful thinking.
- AdamFrench

Typo, or sneaky-funny?

They would have to trade a body.

If Knies does what management believes he can do and fits in the top 6...where does Robertson play? I think he has a good career but I also think its time he gets a long look next to good players but it just may not be here.
- Santo_44

Personally, I'd take Bunting out of the top 6. Keep Robertson with one of the lines and try Knies on the other once he's here.

He could very well stay healthy going forward. Hope he does.
Or he could be injured almost yearly as he has been so far.
Dunno, either way I dont see the leafs going after him. Unless they get really desparate or yotes really drop the price.
We'll see.
- Fakepartofme

2 years ago he played two full season shortened seasons.

I'd imagine the Leafs are in on him just not at the outrageous price...I also imagine every other team is under the same thought process.

He could very well stay healthy going forward. Hope he does.
Or he could be injured almost yearly as he has been so far.
Dunno, either way I dont see the leafs going after him. Unless they get really desparate or yotes really drop the price.
We'll see.
- Fakepartofme

I don't see this as a likely trade. Injuries aside, other teams will be more desperate and pay more than the Leafs. IMO it would be foolish to trade either Knies or Niemela a power LW and a potential top two RHD on entry level deals for Chychrun. After missing the boat on Schneider and Guhle, Leafs need to hold onto their first picks.

Personally, I'd take Bunting out of the top 6. Keep Robertson with one of the lines and try Knies on the other once he's here.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Bunting works though.

Not sure Robertson is the forechecker they want next to the big 4.

I don't see this as a likely trade. Injuries aside, other teams will be more desperate and pay more than the Leafs. IMO it would be foolish to trade either Knies or Niemela a power LW and a potential top two RHD on entry level deals for Chychrun. After missing the boat on Schneider and Guhle, Leafs need to hold onto their first picks.
- winsix

Doubtful.

Dubas has shown willingness to use picks to buy cap space with meh contracts...So he is going to stop that perspective when dealing with an actual good player? I don't see it.

The only moves I see Dubas being hesitant in is players with expiring contracts that are wanting to test free agency and get their moneys worth.

Bunting works though.

Not sure Robertson is the forechecker they want next to the big 4.
- Santo_44

Yeah, but it's also a miracle if he makes or takes a pass.

Robertson has more talent than Bunting will ever have. Just needs to be give an actual chance up top. Not 2 periods and then removed, like has been the MO so far. Besides, Matthews and Marner are very good at fore-checking, too.

And right now, Bunting can still play on the other line, since Knies isn't here yet.

Typo, or sneaky-funny?
- Atomic Wedgie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYqGj5gCXtI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPhOnxm0YHo

Typo, or sneaky-funny?
- Atomic Wedgie

Yes

Yeah, but it's also a miracle if he makes or takes a pass.

Robertson has more talent than Bunting will ever have. Just needs to be give an actual chance up top. Not 2 periods and then removed, like has been the MO so far. Besides, Matthews and Marner are very good at fore-checking, too.

And right now, Bunting can still play on the other line, since Knies isn't here yet.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Agree

My all-time favourite:


- Atomic Wedgie

Its not overblown. Those are the facts. He's been often injured.
- Fakepartofme

NO! That's wrong. Injured guys get healthy and stay healthy forever! Patrick in Philly is healthy right? Kase? Young players always get to their potential after being injured all the time.

I don't see this as a likely trade. Injuries aside, other teams will be more desperate and pay more than the Leafs. IMO it would be foolish to trade either Knies or Niemela a power LW and a potential top two RHD on entry level deals for Chychrun. After missing the boat on Schneider and Guhle, Leafs need to hold onto their first picks.
- winsix

I think Chychrun is a leaf only if Dubas believes he's the final piece for this year. Whatever it costs will cost at least the first rounder, solid prospect and maybe some roster player but then you're assets are kind of spent so he better be everything you're going after.

Yeah, but it's also a miracle if he makes or takes a pass.

Robertson has more talent than Bunting will ever have. Just needs to be give an actual chance up top. Not 2 periods and then removed, like has been the MO so far. Besides, Matthews and Marner are very good at fore-checking, too.

And right now, Bunting can still play on the other line, since Knies isn't here yet.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Agreed Robertson needs more a consistent chance, leave him in the top 6 for several games.
Im just hoping the leafs arent laying their hopes on Knies jumping in late in the season and being a real big difference maker in the playoffs. We're hoping he is but thats quite a bit of expectations

I think Chychrun is a leaf only if Dubas believes he's the final piece for this year. Whatever it costs will cost at least the first rounder, solid prospect and maybe some roster player but then you're assets are kind of spent so he better be everything you're going after.
- Aaron_85

And with how defensive the leafs are playing as a team, is he the right add?
From what Ive read and heard, I dont believe he's that great defensive, could be wrong.
A roster Dman would have to go the other way I would assume

I think Chychrun is a leaf only if Dubas believes he's the final piece for this year. Whatever it costs will cost at least the first rounder, solid prospect and maybe some roster player but then you're assets are kind of spent so he better be everything you're going after.
- Aaron_85

Besides the fact that Chychrun is a LHD, I doubt Leafs will pay a high price for the risk you've pointed out. Leafs need to start drafting and developing d-men.

Personally, I'd take Bunting out of the top 6. Keep Robertson with one of the lines and try Knies on the other once he's here.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Knies can replace Jarnkrok and Jarnkrok can replace Kerfoot at the TDL.

Bunting, Matthews, Nylander
Knies, Tavares, Marner

Then you can use Kerfoot, Engvall, Holl AND Robertson for contract space/$/trade bait to upgrade D and bottom 6 before the playoffs?

Besides the fact that Chychrun is a LHD, I doubt Leafs will pay a high price for the risk you've pointed out. Leafs need to start drafting and developing d-men.
- winsix

Rielly, Liljregren, Sandin, Holl say hi.

Hollowell and Karl both send a 3 finger wave.

And with how defensive the leafs are playing as a team, is he the right add?
From what Ive read and heard, I dont believe he's that great defensive, could be wrong.
A roster Dman would have to go the other way I would assume
- Fakepartofme

Chychrun is good in his own end, as a 22-23 year old he had some of the toughest comp in the league and put up decent numbers.

a quick glance at Jfresh charts and Rielly gets a 2% in D impact and Chychrun a 50% with tougher comp.

Agreed Robertson needs more a consistent chance, leave him in the top 6 for several games.
Im just hoping the leafs arent laying their hopes on Knies jumping in late in the season and being a real big difference maker in the playoffs. We're hoping he is but thats quite a bit of expectations
- Fakepartofme

Knies is 20 and has a man body. Come playoff time if he has a good season, it would be hard to convince most Leaf fans with their lack of LW depth that he shouldn't be on this team.