Didn’t Montreal score 3 times right after after Schenn “turned the game around”? I like Schenn. I still have his jersey even if it doesn’t fit. I like the idea of someone on the D being much more physical. But right now the Leafs are winning because they have the 3rd best goals against in the league with their 3 best D out. Getting into the lineup when guys get healthy is a pretty high bar and I don’t think Luke Schenn meets it. It’s going to have to be someone better
- Canada Cup

I agree with you CC.. I don't think Schenn would get consistent playing time in Toronto. Definitely not the 19+ minutes he's getting in Vancouver.

When everyone comes back healthy, I don't see a spot for him..

I'm not a huge believer in Vancouver as a playoff team, per se, but Boudreau had them paced at 106 points last year in 57 games. When you consider that Travis Green had coached them for 25 games, and faced only 11 playoff teams, yet sported an 8-15-2 record - and Boudreau did face 31 playoff teams in those 57 games, you realize they were playing pretty well. I think I picked them as the final western seed in the playoffs in my prediction thread!

Right now Demko just sucks. Between last year and this year, the moves have been nominal in terms of impact like their trades bringing in Studnicka, Stillman, Dermott or Bear and moving out Hamonic, Richardinson or Motte or he FA moves of losing someone like Halak but signing Mikheyev and Kuzmenko - and the FA moves are a net positive, really.

Honestly, Vancouver feels a lot more like a team that should have been moving out guys who were 25 and up (excluding perhaps Demko and Horvat) and retooling / rebuilding the group, rather than re-upping Miller and bringing in more FAs - but that's not my call. If they think they have a team that can kick at the can, then I guess go for it. I mean I thought they had a group that could eke into the playoffs for a year or two, but really the supporting cast behind the main players is just not strong enough - and it's not apt to get significantly better if you keep slotting into a middle of the pack / just missing the playoffs window. *WE* know this well.

That all said, a game like last night's could actually be something that gets them going. They've blown so many leads, many coming from a 4 goal deficit can provide some momentum.
- Monkeypunk

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fbBlnFtb8W4

Great song, written by a Leaf fan from Winnipeg

What do you think is more annoying?

The constant pathetic diving going on in the soccer games or the dumbasses in the crowd (frank)ing whistling the entire game?

https://twitter.com/FultonReed6/status/1600091809606238211

We need Schenn back so bad. Read a great article about him on The Athletic, really changed his game and would be a great 5/6/7 option for us.
- gravyface

Absolutely ridiculous that that hit was called a penalty.

You see the garbage that Trouba does never gets called and an actual clean hit does.

Luke Schenn still not a Leaf??

Boy did he destroy Slaf and then teaching new tough guy Xhekaj
- 21peter

Schenn might be the worst fighter in the league, but he's stronger than everyone. He'll pull people off balance and then win.

So let’s take a look at the last new toy first. But I still wonder where he fits when when everyone is back.

Rielly-Brodie
Gio-Holl
Sandin-Lill

If we want to add him to the Benn, Timmins, etc, insurance list that’s cool but I don’t think he replaces any of the right side starters. I’m pretty sure Keefe keeps Holl in over Schenn. Their last games are pretty indicative of their play.

Holl vs TB - 26 minutes, 5 hits, 1 block, 1 giveaway, 0 PIM, +1
Schenn vs Habs - 19 minutes, 1 hit, 1 giveaway, 7 PIM, -1
- Canada Cup

Whoever keeps track of giveaways is as bad at their job as the guy keeping track of hits on the Island.

https://twitter.com/FultonReed6/status/1600091809606238211

We need Schenn back so bad. Read a great article about him on The Athletic, really changed his game and would be a great 5/6/7 option for us.
- gravyface

The human eraser is back!

Didn’t Montreal score 3 times right after after Schenn “turned the game around”? I like Schenn. I still have his jersey even if it doesn’t fit. I like the idea of someone on the D being much more physical. But right now the Leafs are winning because they have the 3rd best goals against in the league with their 3 best D out. Getting into the lineup when guys get healthy is a pretty high bar and I don’t think Luke Schenn meets it. It’s going to have to be someone better
- Canada Cup

Me too.

Took Mrs. Winsix to see the 2012 short run play on Broadway. Starred Al Pacino as Shelly Levene, originally played by Jack Lemon in the movie. Cost me a couple of bucks - was worth it. It is interesting that the character Blake (Alec Baldwin) from the movie, never appeared in the play.
- winsix

What does third place get?

Fired.

What do you think is more annoying?

The constant pathetic diving going on in the soccer games or the dumbasses in the crowd (frank)ing whistling the entire game?
- GreatGigInTheSky

Is there diving in soccer? Yes. Is it constant? No. For the uninitiated, actually watch the slow motion replays of when players go to ground, and the vast majority of times there is boot on foot contact. If you don't think that hurts, you haven't played the game. Go out and see for yourself instead of constantly female doging about diving. btw there are some pretty glorious swans in hockey games on a nightly basis too.

Is there diving in soccer? Yes. Is it constant? No. For the uninitiated, actually watch the slow motion replays of when players go to ground, and the vast majority of times there is boot on foot contact. If you don't think that hurts, you haven't played the game. Go out and see for yourself instead of constantly female doging about diving. btw there are some pretty glorious swans in hockey games on a nightly basis too.
- fifty__missions

No, the VAST majority of the time, players are going down already. Feet fly out from underneath. Arms flailing in the air. Grab their shinpads and roll around, but get up perfectly fine once they see the refs tells them to get up. Or they see the play is still going and they might score.

Diving is an absolute constant i soccer.

I know there's diving in hockey, never said there wasn't. Tampa was putting on a soccer clinic on Saturday.

And the Leafs have the biggest diver in the league.

EDIT: Womens soccer >>>> mens soccer

https://twitter.com/FultonReed6/status/1600091809606238211

We need Schenn back so bad. Read a great article about him on The Athletic, really changed his game and would be a great 5/6/7 option for us.
- gravyface

I think they do need some players like that.

Seems like they do also since they put useless Simmonds in some games.

Hathaway is my guy.

No, the VAST majority of the time, players are going down already. Feet fly out from underneath. Arms flailing in the air. Grab their shinpads and roll around, but get up perfectly fine once they see the refs tells them to get up. Or they see the play is still going and they might score.

Diving is an absolute constant i soccer.

I know there's diving in hockey, never said there wasn't. Tampa was putting on a soccer clinic on Saturday.

And the Leafs have the biggest diver in the league.
- GreatGigInTheSky

The types of reactions you are describing are not constant. It's clear you don't actually understand the game.

The types of reactions you are describing are not constant. It's clear you don't actually understand the game.
- fifty__missions

Everything I just said all happened in the last 4 minutes of the Morocco vs Spain game.

Everything I just said all happened in the last 4 minutes of the Morocco vs Spain game.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Constantly. Right.

Glad you're watching, anyway. Enjoy the game...if you can.

Constantly. Right.
- fifty__missions

The ref twice in the last minute- "Get the (frank) up and play on"

man #9 for Spain should be getting a yellow card for all the diving he is doing!!!

man #9 for Spain should be getting a yellow card for all the diving he is doing!!!
- dmnted

Hakimi (#2) for Morocco is a gladiator. Can't believe he came back so quickly from what would've been a career ending leg injury to most mortal men.

The types of reactions you are describing are not constant. It's clear you don't actually understand the game.
- fifty__missions

It's actually pretty clear that you are too close to the game, and can't evaluate it objectively.

The diving has been a problem for 50 years or more.

It's franking embarrassing.

It's actually pretty clear that you are too close to the game, and can't evaluate it objectively.

The diving has been a problem for 50 years or more.

It's franking embarrassing.
- Atomic Wedgie

Diving is only a problem with those Equator loving losers. Us northerners never dive and are super tuff and cooooooooooool.

Thanks grandad.

You know what else is franking embarrassing?

Having to remind you people* that Luke Schenn can't skate, and he would never fit into Toronto's systems.

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*"You people" is a Don Cherry trademark phrase, all rights reserved.

You know what else is franking embarrassing?

Having to remind you people* that Luke Schenn can't skate, and he would never fit into Toronto's systems.

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*"You people" is a Don Cherry trademark phrase, all rights reserved.
- Atomic Wedgie

Chychrun has been pretty (frank)ing phenomenal since coming back...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fbBlnFtb8W4

Great song, written by a Leaf fan from Winnipeg
- mr.sir

Not a huge fan of thrash, there were some decent punk bands, some over the top, went to the HeatWave concert mostly Punk New Wave bands, the Clash didn't show up, was still ok.

Here's a song from a Canadian who is still writing great music. Hope to see him one more time in concert. Will take my son for sure. The Pretenders and Talking Heads were at the top of their games and were both excellent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AMZ4DeMFhs

Diving is only a problem with those Equator loving losers. Us northerners never dive and are super tuff and cooooooooooool.

Thanks grandad.
- AdamFrench

Yes, because northern European hockey players are never accused of being divers.

Thank you for rooting out the systemic racism that I continue to perpetuate through my historic position of privilege here at Hockeybuzz.

No wonder you young people can't hold a job. In my day, $15/hr was a fortune!

It's actually pretty clear that you are too close to the game, and can't evaluate it objectively.

The diving has been a problem for 50 years or more.

It's franking embarrassing.
- Atomic Wedgie

I honestly don't know why people get angry about it. Like, it's not a soccer problem, it's the pussies that play it and the the cowards who refuse to call it.

Soccer is a good game brought down by the men who play it.

Women's soccer is such a better game, it's actually ridiculous.